Let's Talk About Shane's Gambling Problem . . .

Fool and their money!!!!!!!!

As the old saying goes, " a fool and their money are soon parted".

Them bright lights and air conditioned casino's cost a fortune to operate daily.

"hope springs eternal" should be the gamblers favorite saying.

Don :cool:
 
I think unless one has positive, first hand factual knowledge of these types of things, they should keep their pie hole shut. If they have positive, first hand factual knowledge, they should also keep their pie hole shut. It really isn't anybody's business what SVB or anyone else does with their time and money.
 
Gambling is not a problem if you win.....
...or if you make issues you can afford.

But if you play slots, you might as well burn your bankroll.

And Shane is in the public domain.....
...I think his extracurricular activities are interesting.
 
nobcitypool said:
I think unless one has positive, first hand factual knowledge of these types of things, they should keep their pie hole shut. If they have positive, first hand factual knowledge, they should also keep their pie hole shut. It really isn't anybody's business what SVB or anyone else does with their time and money.
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IF he has the problem -Hopefully some KIND people who care for him and want him to have a decent life will make it their business. He will thank them later. Almost no one straightens out without outside pressure.
 
Not really that much different than sticking all your money in the stock market with todays economy and hoping the stock market doesn't crash before you can sell out. He's a big boy now. If he can't figure out to quit if he keeps going broke, well, then maybe he doesn't deserve to have the money in the first place. He's plenty old enough to decide for himself.
 
Neil said:
Not really that much different than sticking all your money in the stock market with todays economy and hoping the stock market doesn't crash before you can sell out. He's a big boy now. If he can't figure out to quit if he keeps going broke, well, then maybe he doesn't deserve to have the money in the first place. He's plenty old enough to decide for himself.
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NO ONE should go into the stock market big OR BUY GOLD without years watching and going in with small amounts. And by the way my second most successful year was 2008 when the market crashed and i was SHORT!! I worked on Wall St in 1970, followed it ever since and still had no shot at success until maybe 1990. It's harder than horseracing.
 
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Nostroke said:
NO ONE should go into the stock market big OR BUY GOLD without years watching and going in with small amounts. And by the way my second most successful year was 2008 when the market crashed and i was SHORT!!
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Many, if not most, have their entire retirement fund dependent on the stock market....they call it a 401K.
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
I have been listening on a number of the streams to quite a few veiled, and some less veiled references to Shane's going off in the casinos for big $$$.

I am met with a few emotions when hearing these, and, btw, the comments are from various guys, both on the Ultimate10b and now the Great Southern streams.

So, to be clear - *they* have made this public knowledge.

The two main feelings I have when hearing this on the streams are:

1. he's a grown man, why are you putting his business on the street?

2. if you have something to say about it on air, then come out and say it for crying out loud and stop with the cowardly (imo) drive-by one-liners followed by silence.

what's the point of it?

do you want to have an intervention for him?

are you trying to come across like journalists with a scoop?

the one that put me over the edge was just moments ago when Shane lost his 9b match to Jayson Shaw and Geoff Conway said "I wonder if Shane has enough money left to do the buyback". Then nothing else.

gee, I wonder if svb will be able to find it. :rolleyes:

You guys behind the mics should probably zip it or short of doing that, then go all the way the other direction and make it a topic of discussion.

All of the veiled zingers followed by dead air make you all look weak.

in my opinion.

best,
brian kc
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Were you there when Shane lost all his dough at the casinos?, no , you heard some jerk talking on a stream and now take it as Gospel !, maybe he did , maybe he didn't, I know one thing for sure , more people will now hear about it on this forum than heard about it on that stream, you can bet on that!

Anyway it's his business!, you make out like a good guy here airing out Shane's casino gambling but it's no better than the Texas person talking it up about James Waldon!

I think people in this forum need to play pool and stop running other's down.


David Harcrow
 
cleary said:
Ya know first of all Geoff Conway is terrible and should be kept far from a mic. He works for free when they need an extra voice but Honeatly I'd rather hit mute, and do.

Aside from that, what Shane or anyone else does with their money is on them and nobody's business. Just because that nit has no gamble doesn't mean other cannot have fun with their money. I'd bet Shane is doing ok with money.
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Well, for the record and regardless of anyone's opinion of Geoff Conway, this was first brought to light during commentary of the Big Foot Challenge semi-finals by Jay Helfert.

Jay mentioned that the casino losses and late hours may be negatively impacting Shane's psyche and mental acuity. For any that watched, it was a very poorly played match by both Shane and Phil Burford.

This was then brought to the booth again by Bill Gibbs during another match, and then finally by Geoff in the last match of Shane streamed today against Jayson Shaw.

So multiple commentators that I have heard; and I have not watched every streamed match. I am not sure of the relevance of this, other than to clear up that it was not only Geoff Conway espousing such notions, right wrong or indifferent.

I also agree with Cleary and others that what a grown man (or woman) does with their money (as long as it's legal), then it is really inconsequential other than another piece of human interest trivia and possibly as match performance insight.

Peace and best wishes to all.

~Razor
 
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catpool9 said:
Were you there when Shane lost all his dough at the casinos?, no , you heard some jerk talking on a stream and now take it as Gospel !, maybe he did , maybe he didn't, I know one thing for sure , more people will now hear about it on this forum than heard about it on that stream, you can bet on that!

Anyway it's his business!, you make out like a good guy here airing out Shane's casino gambling but it's no better than the Texas person talking it up about James Waldon!

I think people in this forum need to play pool and stop running other's down.


David Harcrow
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David;

I don't know you but I like you. And I like your style.

The entire point of my post is to take to task the guys (not one - I've heard 5 different guys on a few different Tunica streams) who I feel shouldn't be putting Shane's business on the street, but have done just that.

And the way they are choosing to do it seems low rent to me.

With potshots, then silence. Like, there, I snuck it in but it's too taboo to elaborate on.

I think they should either be quiet about it altogether or go right into detail.

And once it's public, and they made sure it is, this is the forum where it gets discussed.

But please notice that I'm not discussing his specific gambling habits per se, but rather, the way these commentators have chosen to broach the subject on air.

Like a cross between 7th grade schoolgirls and frightened kittens. :grin-square:

best,
brian kc
 
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shhhh

what does his casino play or gambling have to do with playing pool? people gamble, drink, golf, play poker, what the hell else you gonna do at a casino? lol
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
David;

I don't know you but I like you. And I like your style.

The entire point of my post is to take to task the guys (not one - I've heard 5 different guys on a few different Tunica streams) who I feel have no business putting Shane's business on the street, who have done just that.

And the way they are choosing to do it seems chickenshit to me (yes pun intended)..

With potshots, then silence. Like, there, I snuck it in but it's too taboo to elaborate on. wtf

I think they should either shut up or go right into detail.

And once it's public, and they made sure it is, this is the forum where it gets discussed.

But please notice that I'm not discussing his specific gambling per se, but rather, the way these commentators have chosen to broach the subject on air.

Like a cross between 7th grade schoolgirls and frightened kittens.

best,
brian kc
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I think you're both fine, upstanding individuals.

I just happen to disagree with you both on this topic. Unless pool players want to not be taken seriously, then hey, who cares. If people continue to sweep problems under the carpet, it does nothing but send a message that it's okay. Heck, if others look up to those people, it practically encourages the same behaviour.

As for sneaking in the lines, maybe it was made as a "this could be a reason" remark they expected to be understood by other players/gamblers that were watching. Shane's a pretty big name in pool, so if he's out and about around a tournament, he should expect that people are going to be taking note of what he's doing.

Pool's ongoing identity crisis continues..
 
I have stood at the craps table beside Shane,Efren.Bustie and Earl all at the same time.
Earl was just observing but the rest were betting it
 
Ah, why not some pool player gambling stories?

Alex was playing poker in Vegas a few years ago.
He was one of two winners at the table.
The other winner got on Alex's case about how he played a hand.
He got nasty and threatening (subtly)....he weighed about 200 lbs.

Alex had enough, he stood up and said "Lets just step outside and
fight for our stacks."
The dealer had to call the pit-boss, who had to call security, who led
Alex over to cash his chips and then leave.
They were grinning at Alex and asked "Would you have really fought him?"

Alex said "What the hell, I could use the money."
 
Neil said:
Many, if not most, have their entire retirement fund dependent on the stock market....they call it a 401K.
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Actually you are wrong. Most do not have a retirement fund. They have pissed all of their money away. I have heard that "we don't make enough to save", and as you can guess, they are the ones that need to save the most. I have paid for two daughters through college (well almost, my youngest has one more semester) and they will come out debt free.

A huge amount of folks don't even contribute enough to get the free matching funds that most companies offer.

You will need between 2MM-4MM to retire, and I think I read most people have less than $50K saved.

I am far to the right politically, but I understand, people are too irresponsible to set aside money for retirement. For that reason, we can never do away with social security.

So back to your suggestion most peoples retirement funds are NOT the stock market but with the government, sad but true.

Ken
 
You beat me to this. Jay really beat this one in during Shane's match and I do agree that there may be a psychological difference coming into a match after a big win and not a big loss.

Occam's Razor said:
Well, for the record and regardless of anyone's opinion of Geoff Conway, this was first brought to light during commentary of the Big Foot Challenge semi-finals by Jay Helfert.

Jay mentioned that the casino losses and late hours may be negatively impacting Shane's psyche and mental acuity. For any that watched, it was a very poorly played match by both Shane and Phil Burford.

This was then brought to the booth again by Bill Gibbs during another match, and then finally by Geoff in the last match of Shane streamed today against Jayson Shaw.

So multiple commentators that I have heard; and I have not watched every streamed match. I am not sure of the relevance of this, other than to clear up that it was not only Geoff Conway espousing such notions, right wrong or indifferent.

I also agree with Cleary and others that what a grown man (or woman) does with their money (as long as it's legal), then it is really inconsequential other than another piece of human interest trivia and possibly as match performance insight.

Peace and best wishes to all.

~Razor
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Ken_4fun said:
Actually you are wrong. Most do not have a retirement fund. They have pissed all of their money away. I have heard that "we don't make enough to save", and as you can guess, they are the ones that need to save the most. I have paid for two daughters through college (well almost, my youngest has one more semester) and they will come out debt free.

A huge amount of folks don't even contribute enough to get the free matching funds that most companies offer.

You will need between 2MM-4MM to retire, and I think I read most people have less than $50K saved.

I am far to the right politically, but I understand, people are too irresponsible to set aside money for retirement. For that reason, we can never do away with social security.

So back to your suggestion most peoples retirement funds are NOT the stock market but with the government, sad but true.

Ken
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Something like 47% of Americans retire with NOTHING in the bank and to think some morons wanted them to be able to direct their own SS funds !! ahahahahahahaha! They'd blow it all and be on Welfare at retirement and our coffers would be worse off than ever
 
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