Let's Talk About Shane's Gambling Problem . . .

Lets be clear here. Few people even know what a problem is... A problem isn't something "you got". Its a gap. A gap between what you want and what you have. The art of problem solving is bridging that gap. So you can call Shane's gambling a problem, but that's your word for it.
Some can blow 5gs in a Casino and call it fun. Others call it bankruptcy. I imagine its a.... "problem" for outsiders to distinguish between the two.
 
Lets be clear here. Few people even know what a problem is... A problem isn't something "you got". Its a gap. A gap between what you want and what you have. The art of problem solving is bridging that gap. So you can call Shane's gambling a problem, but that's your word for it.
Some can blow 5gs in a Casino and call it fun. Others call it bankruptcy. I imagine its a.... "problem" for outsiders to distinguish between the two.

Exactly.

If I could count on my arm providing me with 50-100k in profit per year then who but me should care how much of that PROFIT I blow in any manner I choose.

Shane is in a great position as a pool player. He is staked by Cuetec to go around the world and play pool, staked whenever he needs or wants it in any gambling match against any player breathing, frequently paid to play challenge matches, invited to all the best events, and treated with mucho respect by all those around him.

Why should anyone care what he does in the casino? I think it was in poor taste to bring it up multiple times on chat and also in poor taste to bring it up here. For that matter I think it was in extremely poor taste to send a pic of Shane's PRIVATE text saying he what he planned to to do Mike Dechaine in their match. I know he was joking with his buddy in private but that's the sort of shit that gets people fired from their sponsors if the sponsor doesn't see the humor in it.

Consequently all this delving into Shane's personal life is equal amounts of BS. Jeeze what is this TMZ-lite?
 
Good post APABrian and also agree with JB. Just because you hear a few innuendos doesn't make it true. People are speculating. I have heard people say that Shane handles his money very well.

Maybe its a way of unwinding after tourney play and the casino is the only venue open if you're not tired. Could be any number of reasons that he would go to a casino. Might sound stupid but I will stop in our casino because I can always catch an extra beer before last call and their hot dogs are cheap and tasty.
I might spend a 20 on a nickel machine on occasion.

Now, if you win 20 with pool and lose it promptly on a Craps table, and have nothing left but change to buy you a hot dog on the way out, yer a Dumb A.

I'd be willing to bet that Shane knows exactly how much hard work it takes to win and he isn't going to turn his winnings into someone elses money.

Does zero good to hear rumors and perpetuate them further if you are commentating a match. Stick to your job and leave a players personal life out of it.

When Shane logs onto AZ looking for a Stake Horse, then I'll believe it.
 
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Everyone has issues and if someone claims they do not then watch out for that person. If you have not done anything wrong in life then I do not trust you. ;)
 
I would not say they are chomping at the bit to host pool tournaments. Pool players might like to gamble and not be great at casino games (who is) but as a group they don't have a lot of money to lose and no credit cards to max out, no real estate to double mortgage to finance a $100,000 gambling bender.

It would be awesome if casinos were lining up to host events and add money but it doesn't seem to be the case at all.

John, i been in the casino business 31 years and i dont know why they dont want to host events any more either. Pool players have a bad rep with the casino people in that out of all the people that the event will draw, very few of them will go off for a huge number.

There are definelty exceptions of course but not enough to justify putting on a major event and tieing up facilitys for a week or more.

I really dont know the concrete answer but i think im close enough to the mark. That plus a few pool players in the past did some shall i say "Questionable" things and that sort of got them branded as no good.

Now as to the main topic of the fellow in questions gambling habits. I was trained by my father who was a big BM from the late 50,s till he retired. He always told me to keep my mouth shut about what players did, win or lose. You never know what youre saying and who it will get back to and you might cause the man a problem indirectly and we lose a customer.

The same thing applies in a casino , when i have a guy on my game going off for a big number and one of the detectives asks me later what did the guy lose or who was he or anything else. My answer is always the same : I dont know. Most of them dont like it but tough shit for them, let em make a beef, lol.

Why do you think they dont want photos taken in casinos ? Beacuse they are afraid some other joint will steal their decorating ideas ? No, its to protect players privacy, and this goes back over 50 years.

I could write a great book on all the stuff i have seen first hand, a lot comical, a lot tragic, but once i hit the back door, its all forgotten about.
Thats how i maintain a semblance of sanity. :eek:
 
put a cue in keiths hands and bring him back to turning stone in september. everyone misses both of you

We're going to be there. I love Turning Stone, and so does Keith.

Just a note that might worthy of mention is that Shane's family, to include his mother, reads this forum regularly. They may mention something to him about it, but Shane is a big boy and can gamble if he wants.

Grapevine says he won 8 dimes in the tournament, lost 18 at the craps table, and then won it back later. End of story.
 
Grady Mathews is FOR SURE missed dearly by the casinos.... RIP.

OMG! Ain't that the truth. The first time I saw him was in Atlantic City, and he proceeded to lose 10 large right before my eyes, within what seemed like minutes. Randi was not too happy about it. :embarrassed2:

Gambling is an occupational hazard with pool players. Those on this thread condemning it are the very ones in the front row watching the challenge and action matches.

I never had a gambling addiction. I've had a few others, cigarettes, used to drink alcohol, quit in '78, et cetera. Everybody has their demons, I guess, whether it's food, coffee, drugs, sex,, and rock and roll. :grin:

Keith has a gambling problem. Today, Keith has a speed limit when he gambles. When we go to the casino, we both set a limit. It may be a larger limit than what others might have for themselves, but it's a comfortable amount. When we got to the track, it's tough as nails getting out of there under a certain amount, so we don't go there as often as Keith would like. ;)

Whether Shane has a problem or not gambling, it's his problem to deal with. I kind of think he's okay. He gambles big in pool, so gambling big at the craps table seems normal to me. :cool:
 
I agree with what ur saying he is old enough to do and play what ever he wants if he was winning thousands would this toplc even come up. Maybe the people saying these things may want to think before they post have theythought that maybe shane likes to give some of his money back and have fun doing it if the people that put the posts up had half the money shane has then they might do the same thing but they most likley don't ha ve the money to even enter most of the events he plays in maybe they should try and get a game with shanes mum that might be there speed leave the guy alone and let him have some fun I bet he dosent bet near as much as alex the lion now he bet real high at what ever u want chess backgammon flipping coins and his special leap frog just ask him and put up the money and as you know you got action all you can handle
 
Is he living in a carboard box? Dealing drugs? Getting arrested for robbing stores?

No.

He's over 21, makes a good living and frankly - it's not my or anyone else's business to comment on how he chooses to spend the money he makes.

If he wants to spend it on downloading midget porn and buying Pokemon cards, I don't care and I don't want to hear it.

I like to watch him play pool - can do without the social commentary on how he spends his money in his off time.
 
Can't have it both ways....

Why do you think Casinos are chomping at the bit to host pool events? They know that pool players as a group are weak ass money flushing gambling chumps.

Most of the talk around these tournaments is that pool players are broke in the first place and can barely afford to get there and pay the entry fees.

If that is the case, why would the Casinos expect to make so much money?
 
Most of the talk around these tournaments is that pool players are broke in the first place and can barely afford to get there and pay the entry fees.

If that is the case, why would the Casinos expect to make so much money?

Most times, not all, there's more spectators than competitors in pool tournaments. The casinos are hoping to cash in on those who enjoy games of stake when they host pool tournaments. It's not just limited to pool players. :cool:
 
None of my business, but I hope SVB doesnt spend too much time at the casino. 100k can go pretty fast there.
 
This thread is hilarious.

You're upset at what commentators say on live streams about getting into Shane's business, so you think telling everyone in the Main Forum on AZB about Shane's business is the best course of action.

Hahaha

evan;

as I pointed out earlier, I don't like the drive-by style commentary that was used by some of these guys.

snide remark followed by dead air.

imo, it would be better to get into it all the way.

or not at all. :thumbup:

best,
brian kc <--- still convinced this was made a topic on the pool streams and equally convinced azb is where people discuss pool topics. :wink:
 
evan;

as I pointed out earlier, I don't like the drive-by style commentary that was used by some of these guys.

snide remark followed by dead air.

imo, it would be better to get into it all the way.

or not at all. :thumbup:

best,
brian kc <--- still convinced this was made a topic on the pool streams and equally convinced azb is where people discuss pool topics. :wink:

Whether it's Shane throwing dice or the size of Alex's unit, it's just filler between shots while they are commentating. I doubt very seriously they thought it would be analyzed the way it has been here on the forum when they said it. ;)

Reminds me of when Jennifer Barreta asked Mike Dechaine a question about his opinion of what people thought of him, or words to that effect. Same thing happened. Posts blossomed everywhere. :D

Can't wait for the next topic. :eek: ;)
 
WOW. A song I can understand the words. Gee he didn't jump around to the music to drowned him out because he had no voice and he kept his cloths on. Johnnyt

Then you'll love this guy. Another song title pertinent to topic of the thread ---> HERE :D

I used to play this song over and over again on the jukebox at my neighborhood tavern. LOL
 
Then you'll love this guy. Another song title pertinent to topic of the thread ---> HERE :D

I used to play this song over and over again on the jukebox at my neighborhood tavern. LOL

Haven't heard that one for awhile. I've had many wasted nights...I can't remember most of them. I use to have to count my money the next day to see how much of a good time I had. Some of those that looked like models at 4 am had a face that would stop an 8 day clock in the morning. Johnnyt
 
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