I agree. I have seen and competed against many of the top players and know that I and anyone else that has the dedication, knowledge, and relatively good health can get there. Pool is different from more physical sports like basketball because nobody is limited by their height or musculature, the main thing that will turn a good player great is the desire to become great.
Could you be a pro player?
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I agree. I have seen and competed against many of the top players and know that I and anyone else that has the dedication, knowledge, and relatively good health can get there. Pool is different from more physical sports like basketball because nobody is limited by their height or musculature, the main thing that will turn a good player great is the desire to become great.
And you're Olympic Gold or Silver medal is where? Remember John, you said world class. Okay, so that doesn't mean you have to win the silver or golf. Which year did you compete in the Olympics? Or do you and I have a substantially different definition of world class? Or did you simply wish to tell us about your high diving experience and I missed the point entirely?
Just so you know John, I did a back flip off of a 15 to 20 foot spring board when I was young. Seemed like 25 ft., was probably 15. I'm somewhat afraid of heights as well. The first one went okay. One of the next ones turned into a 1 1/2. Hurt like a Motherxxxxxxx. LOL Unlike you, that ended any aspirations I had to be a high diver.
John, earlier you added to many zeroes, now you left a couple out! I'm sure you meant 100 feet, not 1 ft.!
Dude, if you jumped off at 100', I'm not even talking to you again. You have to be certifiably nuts. LOL
With the right training, diet, exercise and DESIRE.....
But desire will come with competition.
I can get someone there in about 2 to 3 months.
I've got an ace in the hole though.
This pool is not rocket science, proper stance, stroke and aiming can all be taught.
The rest can be taught also. It's a little quicker to learn from a qualified teacher than from monkey see monkey do.
It's funny. i see pro level players think they got to do this and got to do that and it has nothing to do with their shooting ability.
I feel confident that I can get an A or AA player there in 2 to 3 months. Granted they are in good physical shape already. If not it would take a little longer, maybe 5 to 6 months because of the physical shape factor.
Give me a student with deep pockets and a dream and I will get them to the pro level real fast.
There are other teachers around the country that could do this also.
When I do a 2 to 3 hour lesson I can pretty much guarantee my students game will go up a ball, if not immediately, real soon.
I would love to go work with someone for a month or 2.
I'm not blowing smoke either..............
But desire will come with competition.
I can get someone there in about 2 to 3 months.
I've got an ace in the hole though.
This pool is not rocket science, proper stance, stroke and aiming can all be taught.
The rest can be taught also. It's a little quicker to learn from a qualified teacher than from monkey see monkey do.
It's funny. i see pro level players think they got to do this and got to do that and it has nothing to do with their shooting ability.
I feel confident that I can get an A or AA player there in 2 to 3 months. Granted they are in good physical shape already. If not it would take a little longer, maybe 5 to 6 months because of the physical shape factor.
Give me a student with deep pockets and a dream and I will get them to the pro level real fast.
There are other teachers around the country that could do this also.
When I do a 2 to 3 hour lesson I can pretty much guarantee my students game will go up a ball, if not immediately, real soon.
I would love to go work with someone for a month or 2.
I'm not blowing smoke either..............
Would it matter to you if I had a gold medal? Top athletes who have been studied and interviewed have consistently had one thing in common, they worked harder at their craft than their peers.
You missed the point entirely. If you saw me diving you would probably compliment me on my "talent". The point I was making is that desire drove the acquisition of skill. There wasn't enough desire to go all the way but there was enough to get good enough to not die.
If it was a spring board then it's most likely it was 9ft. It's very rare to see springboards mounted higher than that but they do exist.
No one who sees me now would ever believe that I used to be at zero body fat and able to do amazing stunts on the diving board and trampoline. The point is that I wasn't born to do those things, I didn't have any special athletic talent as a kid, I got into diving in my sophomore year in high school and even then not in a really dedicated way.
But the more I practiced, the better I got. I would spend hours on the trampoline by myself working out the moves. I would spend hours on the board getting working on the dives. As a result I became one of the few people in the world performing spotters which is a front approach, jump and back flip back onto the board with a two and a half forward dive. I did this day after day four times a day two feet from an 18ft drop to the ground. I wanted to learn how to it, that type of move turned me on and so I became very good at it. Through practice, not because of any special talent for it.
That's just me, in my life I have seen so many people become very good and great through dedicated study and practice. When they reach a certain level everyone ohhhs and ahhhs and praises their "talent". To be sure they are talented but what they can do is a result of developing that talent.
Like the hustler says, the more I practice the luckier I get.
John, earlier you added to many zeroes, now you left a couple out! I'm sure you meant 100 feet, not 1 ft.!
It was a 1ft square platform 100ft in the air.
This is the main problem with pool... Every league player in the world thinks that if they quit their job and did nothing but play for 2 years they could be someone... That kills the fanbase because they cannot appreciate the fact that being true pro speed is out of their reach.....
I watch baseball now that I am over 40 and I look back and think what if... I destroyed my shoulder as a junior when I was throwing 88 at 155lbs and was being recruited... I know the window closed because I got hurt but it also closed because I got old......
In pool we have the Parica, Earl and Efren so unlike Neil, most moroons think they can still make it after their prime...
John Barton has zero chance... Neil has zero chance..... Matter of fact anyone who even hinted that they thought they did... has a zero chance...
Could you play pro speed?? Could you cash? Could you play world class??
Real simple... World class in a race to 11 would be 8 errors or less in the match... Somewhere in the 920+ range of the TPA numbers....
Pro speed is easy because there are no pros... Cashing not so bad because there is no sanctioning body so with a good draw I could cash NOW... With seedings and real pros no shot........
World class??? Get a grip and hit Accu-Stats up and look at the TPA... As far as I know the only player I have ever met that could tell me what he shot was Ralf Souquet.... Now he IS world class..... The rest of you need to step off the pipe......
Talent plus 1... Drive plus 1.... Under 21 plus 1.... -10000 if you don't have the pros in your back yard teaching you every day.... If you do.... Now you have a shot......
Chris
I watch baseball now that I am over 40 and I look back and think what if... I destroyed my shoulder as a junior when I was throwing 88 at 155lbs and was being recruited... I know the window closed because I got hurt but it also closed because I got old......
In pool we have the Parica, Earl and Efren so unlike Neil, most moroons think they can still make it after their prime...
John Barton has zero chance... Neil has zero chance..... Matter of fact anyone who even hinted that they thought they did... has a zero chance...
Could you play pro speed?? Could you cash? Could you play world class??
Real simple... World class in a race to 11 would be 8 errors or less in the match... Somewhere in the 920+ range of the TPA numbers....
Pro speed is easy because there are no pros... Cashing not so bad because there is no sanctioning body so with a good draw I could cash NOW... With seedings and real pros no shot........
World class??? Get a grip and hit Accu-Stats up and look at the TPA... As far as I know the only player I have ever met that could tell me what he shot was Ralf Souquet.... Now he IS world class..... The rest of you need to step off the pipe......
Talent plus 1... Drive plus 1.... Under 21 plus 1.... -10000 if you don't have the pros in your back yard teaching you every day.... If you do.... Now you have a shot......
Chris
"great" basketball player or the "greatest" basketball player.
Man, you just burst my bubble. I went to the Sports Academy and bought a basketball, I figured if I played for 6 hours a day for 2 years I could play in the NBA. The only challenge was if I should plan to be a "great" basketball player or the "greatest" basketball player. :shrug:
Man, you just burst my bubble. I went to the Sports Academy and bought a basketball, I figured if I played for 6 hours a day for 2 years I could play in the NBA. The only challenge was if I should plan to be a "great" basketball player or the "greatest" basketball player. :shrug:
Yeah right.
I`m talking about gambling as a concept, if it`s pool, poker, roulette or horses or whatever you can gamble on, i don`t like it.
It happens all to often that people get addicted and ruin their lives.
Pool is a perfectly fine game to play without adding money to the mix.
Your a joke!
Guys who talk about their penis lenght are usually the ones with a tiny pencil dick!
I`m pretty sure your a troll.
If you are for real, you need to get some proffessional help, you are most likely delusional...
Here is our dialogue to show the context. If you need me to spell out exactly how you were wrong I will.
I'm sorry you didn't find the humor in my post. I thought it was hilarious.
Wish you were a gambler because I would love to show you how wrong you are and take your money.
Thanks Mr. Bill Stroud for your post. It's a great story.
I don't know if every league player thinks that. Maybe they do. I know that when I spend any amount of time really dedicated to practice, arm falling off sore from stroke drills type stuff then I get better, much better, quickly.
Obviously you are way more familiar with the AccuStats ratings than I am but IIRC top level pros should be shooting in the high 800s to low 900s most of the time, one tier lower is low 800s and so on from there.
My internet sucks right now and I can't search it so I will amend this point later. Every time one of these discussions comes up then it almost always morphs into "you can't hope to be as good as SVB in two years so quit dreaming". The original question was can you reach pro level in two years of daily practice.
My answer is based on the starting point. You say getting to the 900s means less than 8 mistakes in a race to 11. Ok. Let's say right now I am twice as bad making 16 mistakes in a race to 11. What if I only was able to get to ten mistakes in a race to 11?
What specifically do you think would hold me back from achieving that assuming I was able to have no other responsibilities and had the freedom to train and the access to high level pros and coaches, which I do have access to?
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I would love to see a video of you playing pool, playing in a match, just to see your speed...post it pls...
All this shi*talking makes me think you are the unknown Efren, or just a troll with a big mouth online (i've never seen that on the internet before, people bragging etc..)
Also what's your full name and age? A confident man would not mind putting himself on the pool player's map...maybe you get some real action then...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stDX6aNPpQY&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIIzlJfvt38
Here are two videos I made. My name is Lee Baldwin and I'm 38. I admit I am way too cocky on this forum for most people's liking but I am legit. There are many things to make fun of me about and I make fun of myself all the time but I've had a ton of proven success in everything I've put my mind to and I put my money where my mouth is.