Nope, i put my time in and i never hit that speed yet!
Could you be a pro player?
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Nope, i put my time in and i never hit that speed yet!
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...no more than I could be a pro golfer, baseball, basketball, football pro.....
...I just don't have the knack or talent that I see others that are truly good at this game; and even if I were to practice thousands of hours, get the right instruction, and understand the game to its maximum, I would find myself just among the rest of the pack of good players that can beat each other up on any given day....I see SO MANY good players at Pro level or even Shortstop level, what would be the motivation to achieve that plateau? Love of the game, I guess, certainly not the money which is so scarce.
...no more than I could be a pro golfer, baseball, basketball, football pro.....
...I just don't have the knack or talent that I see others that are truly good at this game; and even if I were to practice thousands of hours, get the right instruction, and understand the game to its maximum, I would find myself just among the rest of the pack of good players that can beat each other up on any given day....I see SO MANY good players at Pro level or even Shortstop level, what would be the motivation to achieve that plateau? Love of the game, I guess, certainly not the money which is so scarce.
ill pretty un athletic but ill play u an all around of fishing,putt putt,horse on the basketball court and pool...
People who don't think they can become a pro should be more positive. Pool is one of those games where there is nothing physical holding you back. If you have the drive and put in the required practice and critical thinking, just about anybody can reach a very high level of play. I am proof, I have terrible hand-eye coordination, poor vision, and haven't played full time since I was a B player. Despite that, the list of pros I have beaten in competition is fairly long and consists of a few famous names.
In 2 years of full time play, I think I could reach pro speed. In fact, I know I could (and will once I follow through with my plan to open my own pool hall in a few years).
In 2 years of full time play, I think I could reach pro speed. In fact, I know I could (and will once I follow through with my plan to open my own pool hall in a few years).
Alright then. $500 as long as the pool is bonus ball. Sounds like a blast.
JC
Coos Cues
So when you do drink beer, what brand is it?
Have you ever played in the Western BCA regionals down in Lincoln City?
JC
And a modest ol boy to go along with all that talent lol
I'm so talented I bet my $1000 to your $100 that I could beat you in a modesty contest!
I love the forum here. I get to say things that I would never say in public.
I honestly believe that if you are able to dream big enough (becoming pro) then you are able to get there.
If i had to write down all the things in pool someone labeled as "unachievable" for me which i conquered in the end it would make quite a list.
To the original question: yes,if i can play 2 years of nonstop pool i would play at pro speed.in fact i believe it wouldnt take that long..
If i had to write down all the things in pool someone labeled as "unachievable" for me which i conquered in the end it would make quite a list.
To the original question: yes,if i can play 2 years of nonstop pool i would play at pro speed.in fact i believe it wouldnt take that long..
Once upon a time...
(Not now) I couldn't be a successful pro pool player if I played twice that many hours. Too many years have passed. But once upon a time...yeah I think so. The real question should be if I had the talent to possibly play at a pro level, will I be able to play pool well enough to earn a living that will pay for house, cars, family and expenses associated with playing pool for a living?
:grin:There was a time when I believed that I was the greatest pinball player that ever lived, with both flipper and gambling 20 hole and 25 hole machines. I was permanently barred from playing the gambling pinball machines in the city of Jackson, MS. When I move back home to New Orleans from Jackson, a guy told me they had one dollar (per game) pinball machines in Las Vegas. I dragged my wife out to Las Vegas for a few days driving from one place to the next looking for that pot of gold but just like the mythical pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, I found nothing but nickel and dime machines that were practically welded to the walls, so that you could not use your muscles and reflexes to bounce the ball as needed to win.
I even made road trips to play pinball machines, traveling from Jackson to Memphis, where they would still let me play. Also made a 7 day road trip from Jackson, MS to Augusta, GA and came back with more money than I left, all from pinball machine earnings.
Somewhere, I may have a newspaper article from the Clarion Ledger in Jackson about Pinball Joey. I might even ask the Clarion Ledger if they have an old copy of it. That would be kind of fun to add to my blog.
Back to the pro pool player thing. It takes an awful lot of dedication to be a pro anything, let alone a pro pool player.
My son had very good eye-hand coordination and I kept him from learning about my passion and proclivity for pool, gambling/hustling. I knew that he would take what at first appearance looks like the easy road to fast money. He went on to get a degree and became a IT Manager making good money. Now he comes out with dad on Tuesday night to play in our local pool tournament and I can tell that he could have played at pro level speed within a two year period if he had devoted that amount of time to it. Thankfully, I never let him have the chance.
Like a lot of us who have been around a while, I've seen and see people who don't or won't work that "square" job of 40-60 hours a week and enjoy making enough money gambling and playing in tournaments to pay their rent, food and drink. Like one realist I spoke to recently said, "It's not for everybody but I enjoy the freedom that it provides." (And this guy isn't a pro player either, just a good short stop) I respect that guy because he isn't deluding himself and he sees things very clearly.
When I read threads like this I cringe because I fear for people who would give up everything for a life only of pool.
If I were to give advice to anyone about playing pool for a living it would be: First, get a good/decent education OR a good trade that will help provide you with the ability to live comfortably and if you still have the passion for being a pro player, buy a table for your home and try practicing 4 hours a night for a few years. THEN, take a two week vacation and bring plenty of money that will last you for two weeks of living on the road, gambling and playing pool in tournaments (and a credit card for return home expenses). It won't be the best test but when you finish the two week grind, you will most likely want to write and thank me for my advice. Then again, you may net a few thousand and be pleased as punch.
JoeyA
(Not now) I couldn't be a successful pro pool player if I played twice that many hours. Too many years have passed. But once upon a time...yeah I think so. The real question should be if I had the talent to possibly play at a pro level, will I be able to play pool well enough to earn a living that will pay for house, cars, family and expenses associated with playing pool for a living?
:grin:There was a time when I believed that I was the greatest pinball player that ever lived, with both flipper and gambling 20 hole and 25 hole machines. I was permanently barred from playing the gambling pinball machines in the city of Jackson, MS. When I move back home to New Orleans from Jackson, a guy told me they had one dollar (per game) pinball machines in Las Vegas. I dragged my wife out to Las Vegas for a few days driving from one place to the next looking for that pot of gold but just like the mythical pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, I found nothing but nickel and dime machines that were practically welded to the walls, so that you could not use your muscles and reflexes to bounce the ball as needed to win.
I even made road trips to play pinball machines, traveling from Jackson to Memphis, where they would still let me play. Also made a 7 day road trip from Jackson, MS to Augusta, GA and came back with more money than I left, all from pinball machine earnings.
Somewhere, I may have a newspaper article from the Clarion Ledger in Jackson about Pinball Joey. I might even ask the Clarion Ledger if they have an old copy of it. That would be kind of fun to add to my blog.
Back to the pro pool player thing. It takes an awful lot of dedication to be a pro anything, let alone a pro pool player.
My son had very good eye-hand coordination and I kept him from learning about my passion and proclivity for pool, gambling/hustling. I knew that he would take what at first appearance looks like the easy road to fast money. He went on to get a degree and became a IT Manager making good money. Now he comes out with dad on Tuesday night to play in our local pool tournament and I can tell that he could have played at pro level speed within a two year period if he had devoted that amount of time to it. Thankfully, I never let him have the chance.
Like a lot of us who have been around a while, I've seen and see people who don't or won't work that "square" job of 40-60 hours a week and enjoy making enough money gambling and playing in tournaments to pay their rent, food and drink. Like one realist I spoke to recently said, "It's not for everybody but I enjoy the freedom that it provides." (And this guy isn't a pro player either, just a good short stop) I respect that guy because he isn't deluding himself and he sees things very clearly.
When I read threads like this I cringe because I fear for people who would give up everything for a life only of pool.
If I were to give advice to anyone about playing pool for a living it would be: First, get a good/decent education OR a good trade that will help provide you with the ability to live comfortably and if you still have the passion for being a pro player, buy a table for your home and try practicing 4 hours a night for a few years. THEN, take a two week vacation and bring plenty of money that will last you for two weeks of living on the road, gambling and playing pool in tournaments (and a credit card for return home expenses). It won't be the best test but when you finish the two week grind, you will most likely want to write and thank me for my advice. Then again, you may net a few thousand and be pleased as punch.
JoeyA
U got me..I live all the way in Tx though..so we have to play 500 in your city and 500 in mine..bonus ball is fine..
(Not now) I couldn't be a successful pro pool player if I played twice that many hours. Too many years have passed. But once upon a time...yeah I think so. The real question should be if I had the talent to possibly play at a pro level, will I be able to play pool well enough to earn a living that will pay for house, cars, family and expenses associated with playing pool for a living?
:grin:There was a time when I believed that I was the greatest pinball player that ever lived, with both flipper and gambling 20 hole and 25 hole machines. I was permanently barred from playing the gambling pinball machines in the city of Jackson, MS. When I move back home to New Orleans from Jackson, a guy told me they had one dollar (per game) pinball machines in Las Vegas. I dragged my wife out to Las Vegas for a few days driving from one place to the next looking for that pot of gold but just like the mythical pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, I found nothing but nickel and dime machines that were practically welded to the walls, so that you could not use your muscles and reflexes to bounce the ball as needed to win.
I even made road trips to play pinball machines, traveling from Jackson to Memphis, where they would still let me play. Also made a 7 day road trip from Jackson, MS to Augusta, GA and came back with more money than I left, all from pinball machine earnings.
Somewhere, I may have a newspaper article from the Clarion Ledger in Jackson about Pinball Joey. I might even ask the Clarion Ledger if they have an old copy of it. That would be kind of fun to add to my blog.
Back to the pro pool player thing. It takes an awful lot of dedication to be a pro anything,
let alone a pro pool player.
My son had very good eye-hand coordination and I kept him from learning about my passion and proclivity for pool, gambling/hustling. I knew that he would take what at first appearance looks like the easy road to fast money. He went on to get a degree and became a IT Manager making good money. Now he comes out with dad on Tuesday night to play in our local pool tournament and I can tell that he could have played at pro level speed within a two year period if he had devoted that amount of time to it. Thankfully, I never let him have the chance.
Like a lot of us who have been around a while, I've seen and see people who don't or won't work that "square" job of 40-60 hours a week and enjoy making enough money gambling and playing in tournaments to pay their rent, food and drink. Like one realist I spoke to recently said, "It's not for everybody but I enjoy the freedom that it provides." (And this guy isn't a pro player either, just a good short stop) I respect that guy because he isn't deluding himself and he sees things very clearly.
When I read threads like this I cringe because I fear for people who would give up everything for a life only of pool.
If I were to give advice to anyone about playing pool for a living it would be: First, get a good/decent education OR a good trade that will help provide you with the ability to live comfortably and if you still have the passion for being a pro player, buy a table for your home and try practicing 4 hours a night for a few years. THEN, take a two week vacation and bring plenty of money that will last you for two weeks of living on the road, gambling and playing pool in tournaments (and a credit card for return home expenses). It won't be the best test but when you finish the two week grind, you will most likely want to write and thank me for my advice. Then again, you may net a few thousand and be pleased as punch.
JoeyA
I agree with Joey, one hundred percent, and would add one thing that is rarely talked about around here, and that's what do they (professional pool players) get when they come to the end of it all.
Is there a big fat pension waiting for them? Do they cash in that 401K they've been putting their winnings into? Will they get a little Social Security when the time comes?
The answer, of course, is no they will not.
The player would certainly have to be willing to learn many new things
It depends on how good the player is on day one of course. The odds are very low because there's many factors other than just playing well to be "pro speed". "Killer instinct" is one of those factors and I'm not sure if that can be taught or if it's purely natural.
The player would certainly have to be willing to learn many new things physically, mentally, and even spiritually (through meditation for concentration and creativity).
I would train a player from average to pro speed in less than two years. Probably 4 hours a day is plenty, however, like the saying goes "it's not practice that makes perfect, it's perfect practice".
'The Game would be their Teacher'
It depends on how good the player is on day one of course. The odds are very low because there's many factors other than just playing well to be "pro speed". "Killer instinct" is one of those factors and I'm not sure if that can be taught or if it's purely natural.
The player would certainly have to be willing to learn many new things physically, mentally, and even spiritually (through meditation for concentration and creativity).
I would train a player from average to pro speed in less than two years. Probably 4 hours a day is plenty, however, like the saying goes "it's not practice that makes perfect, it's perfect practice".
'The Game would be their Teacher'
big fish, small pond
Luxury, I luv ya, man, but bring your girl and make that same offer at the Cue Club on Sahara during Nationals.
Bring A LOT of $20 bills.
Luxury, I luv ya, man, but bring your girl and make that same offer at the Cue Club on Sahara during Nationals.
Bring A LOT of $20 bills.
When I'm in Vegas I'm, appreciating God's artwork that is the female figure.
Bring your men to Washington on my days off. Have them bring a lot of $100 bills.
until you've played against pros, you have NO IDEA what "pro speed" really is
Watching it on TV, or even live, doesn't give you an idea of how good they truly are.
Why?
Because they're competing against. . . . wait for it. . . . other pros.
The punishment they can hand a B player is unbelievable.
Watching it on TV, or even live, doesn't give you an idea of how good they truly are.
Why?
Because they're competing against. . . . wait for it. . . . other pros.
The punishment they can hand a B player is unbelievable.
why would they need Benjies?
Your offer, Ala TCOM, was :
"I win, no money. You win, I'll throw you a $20"
Under those terms, why would they need Benjies?
That gamble might impress in Kitsap county.
Don't think it'd fly in Clark county during Nationals.
Confucious say "just because you got a six-pack in ya, don't mean ya can put out a six-pack"
When I'm in Vegas I'm, appreciating God's artwork that is the female figure.
Bring your men to Washington on my days off. Have them bring a lot of $100 bills.
Your offer, Ala TCOM, was :
"I win, no money. You win, I'll throw you a $20"
Under those terms, why would they need Benjies?
That gamble might impress in Kitsap county.
Don't think it'd fly in Clark county during Nationals.
Confucious say "just because you got a six-pack in ya, don't mean ya can put out a six-pack"