Yup,,,I noticed at the Turning Stone that when the other players weren't playing,,they would all come to see Earl,,,,,,,!!!
Mosconi Cup USA Team
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Yup,,,I noticed at the Turning Stone that when the other players weren't playing,,they would all come to see Earl,,,,,,,!!!
Hey what about the great commentary! :thumbup:
It's only the best pool shown on TV all year! The best players in the most intense competitive environment. If you don't like this event then you don't like pool. I hate to say it but the level of play in ANY Mosconi Cup far exceeds what we see at any WPBA event. And that's a fact Jack!
Good for you Johnny! You're the MAN and you have been for twenty years!
The posting covered the Matchroom permanent staff. But I am happy to endorse your commentators.
Perhaps we could have a thread about who is going to be in the box for the Mosconi Cup.
JIM WYCh Anchor Man and with probably more appearances than anyone. A racing certainty.
JERRY FORSYTH The Johnny Archer of the Commentators. How can they do without him.
TED LERNER An outsider and still LERNING his trade. A Pinoy favorite but playing on away turf.
PHIL YATES If it's statistics you want then PHIL is your man. Would be a good choice when the Cup returns to the UK.
JOEY AGUZIN - Chomping at the bit for this but perhaps he needs to get himself out to Vegas in case anyone pulls out. But currently a 1000-1 shot.
JAY HELFERT - The Jayman will almost certainly leap three places up this list to secure the third berth.
That is a squad to challenge the Wincardonas, But they might struggle against snooker's elite team - Willie Thorne, Dennis Taylor, Steve Davis, Ken Doherty, John Parrott and Stephen Hendry. Strength in depth just like the European Mosconi Cup team.
Right now it seems that you're basically satisfied with the choices. It makes sense that you would feel the event is legitimate. Perhaps in a future year you won't agree with the choices and then you will start to question the legitimacy. I'm not wishing that it happens to you, but it is already happening for some who feel others should have been chosen based on their performance this past year.
Without a criteria that has been predetermined, it becomes totally subjective --- and sorry to use the word again ---- it's legitimacy is justifiably questionable.
Except...
The last time Earl played in the Mosconi was 2008, and USA lost.
As good as Earl is playing now, he's not as good as he once was.
You haven't been paying attention Doug. I've worked with Jim and Jerry on the last four Mosconi Cups.
You haven't been paying attention Doug. I've worked with Jim and Jerry on the last four Mosconi Cups.
Of course I knew that Jay. I have been there when you arrived.
Your position on the list was there for dramatic effect:smile::smile:
Younger players???
This is a knee-jerk reaction to to what has been up to this point, a thoughtful discussion. I admire Lou's composure in how he handles himself.
In the big 8 ball event, Corey Deuel schooled every champion and wannabee champion at this year's Four Bears Classic in North Dakota.
His surgical, precision of play was exciting and fun to watch.
JoeyA
Actually, Fran, I'm not even sure who has been chosen, other than a couple of the players -- I'm not that into it. In fact, generally speaking, I don't really care who is chosen.
I feel this way about the predetermined criteria argument: if you and I decide to put up the money for a contest between players representing, say the Midwest v the East Coast, who would be within their rights to argue about who we choose, as long as the players were actually from those geographic regions?
My point is that no one should quibble about whom we choose, not only because we're putting up the dough, but because there would never be consensus on who we should have picked in the first place. I suppose we could agree that it would be the highest finishers in some selected events, but if we're putting up the prize fund and covering the expenses (which in the case of the MC are huge) you and I should be able to pick whoever we want and not have the legitimacy of our contest called into question.
Lou Figueroa
I won't argue that they can't select whomever they want, or that it still won't be an excellent tournament.
My main argument is I would like to see USA win it this year, and having a player like Hatch selected solely for ratings does absolutely no good for Team USA.
You write as if Dennis Hatch can't play pool. What in the heck is wrong with you?
You know what does absolutely no good for Team USA? Fans like you.
I think all of here would like to see the USA win.
As to Hatch, we disagree. I think he'll do fine.
Lou Figueroa
The best post on this subject in this or any other threads in respect of player selection for the Mosconi Cup on either side; USA or European selections. The following, and it bears repeating, says all that needs to be said in respect of any debate on ranking points vs selection of the team and I applaud you for being the voice of reason on this....."Every American player is deserving to be on this team but there is only 5 spots and we have to send our best 5 to have a chance of winning. It not always about who plays the best but its who brings all the aspects to the team."
Earl the Burl? Not likely. It's not just that the other team doesn't like him, it's that the owner of the event doesn't like him. And the owner of the event decides who plays. It's about the show, which means good pool AND good presentation. Over there in Europe, which constitutes, MOST of Matchroom's audience, they expect civil behavior. They don't want to see Earl's antics. Earl is the definition of the "ugly American". (And it's kind of sad to me that so many Americans seem to accept his kind of behavior).
As for Corey, I wonder. I like him and I like his game. I would like to see him on the team. Since losing his Seminole Tribe gig, I think he is trying to resurrect the magic. The problem with Corey is the post game interview. It's like trying to interview a soggy noodle. If Corey displayed more charisma and more emotion - expressed in a positive way like Hatch, not like Earl - then I think he would become a staple at the MC.
Fatz
What the hell does he know? He's just he team captain... :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:
(humour detector may need to be in the on position for some users of these forums..)
Regarding that in red... aherm.. I am the voiceofreason cough