How will you defend SVB this time?

SVB lost to Darren Appleton 8-3 in teh world pool masters and was unlucky it wasn't a whitewash. Now before we start I am not saying SVB is not one of the best players in the world, but like I said in other threads he cannot be deemed the best player on planet earth like Earl, Mika, Daz were when they were winning everything in sight.

I believe Bartram and JB cases scoffed at my claims in the week earlier. What do you have to say now when I told you all SVB was 8-1 because bookies aren't stupid, they know SVB kacks his pants when he is outside the TAR studio or American soil.

If you like DAZ over SVB so much, how much did you bet on the match???????

I'm guessing the big old GOOSE EGG, ZERO, NOTHING, NOTTA, ZILCH.

If you like DAZ a bunch, you can always put him the box with SVB. $10k, should be easy money. They can do races to 27, best of 3, in england...

No one is saying DAZ isn't up there, but in a longer race format, where they are both level headed, and on there game, DAZ is going to be a slight dog to Shane. You just sound like an ass arguing for anything else.

Good day sir.
 
Anyone knows the results to TAR 29, shane vs dennis?

I can see dennis won, but I was wondering the actual results of the 8b, 10b and, 1p.
Or at least who won what..

Thanks!

I think Dennis won the Eight Ball and the One Pocket. Shane got the Ten Ball. I know Dennis won two out of three!
 
If you like DAZ over SVB so much, how much did you bet on the match???????

I'm guessing the big old GOOSE EGG, ZERO, NOTHING, NOTTA, ZILCH.

If you like DAZ a bunch, you can always put him the box with SVB. $10k, should be easy money. They can do races to 27, best of 3, in england...

No one is saying DAZ isn't up there, but in a longer race format, where they are both level headed, and on there game, DAZ is going to be a slight dog to Shane. You just sound like an ass arguing for anything else.

Good day sir.

Lol

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TAR should do another all-around with Shane and Dennis!!

Same format as previous:

Format
8-Ball race to 15
One Pocket race to 7
10-Ball race to 25
 
I think Dennis won the Eight Ball and the One Pocket. Shane got the Ten Ball. I know Dennis won two out of three!

I think Dennis took the ten ball and one-pocket, but lost an eight-ball set where he played near perfect pool but Shane put some big packages together.

I may be misremembering, though.
 
Again, go and ask Darren if he wants to gamble with Shane and then go ask Shane if he wants to gamble with Darren. The prior will say no and the latter will say yes. End of discussion.

Darren can win tournaments, short races. Good for him. He's a great player. Short races are the variance of pool. It's just like tournament play in poker. Any decent player (or sometimes even not so decent) can win a tournament, but the better player gets the cheese in the cash games.

This is not that hard to comprehend folks. I would think that even the foreign contingent here could grasp this concept but it's looking pretty bleak on the IQ scale for several of you.
 
DAZ has gamble, and he matches up fairly often. If DAZ really thought he has the better of it playing SVB, they would play. To get action with Shane, all you have to do is ask. I've only heard of him turning down a game, never actually seen or confirmed it. In fact, usually it's quite the opposite, someone barks, Shane steps up, and then they can't be found.

DAZ openly admitted he can't fad Shanes 10b break, and I don't think he's really excited to play 1p.
10ball - OBVIOUS favor to Shane
8ball is interesting, as both guys cut their teeth on the game. Pick'em at best, I'd give slight favor to Shane, if any.
14.1 i'm GUESSING a very slight nod to DAZ??? <<<i'm really not sure of this statement, I honestly don't know.
Banks, is a pick'em too.
9ball, is going to be slight favor to shane.

If any of the above is turned into longer format races, 25+ for 9,10, and 8 ball, 8+ for 1p, etc. Shane's slight edge becomes noticeably better.

I give DAZ credit where it's due. He's great, he's a top 10 world wide player, and I'll even give him credit that he's a better international tournament player. However, when both guys are on there game, Shane is going to be the favorite. You will have to give up odds to bet on him if they match up.

Also see money list, I'd say this is a pretty good defense of Shane v. DAZ. Being as DAZ was at a lot of the same Tournaments...
 

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SVB lost to Darren Appleton 8-3 in teh world pool masters and was unlucky it wasn't a whitewash. Now before we start I am not saying SVB is not one of the best players in the world, but like I said in other threads he cannot be deemed the best player on planet earth like Earl, Mika, Daz were when they were winning everything in sight.

I believe Bartram and JB cases scoffed at my claims in the week earlier. What do you have to say now when I told you all SVB was 8-1 because bookies aren't stupid, they know SVB kacks his pants when he is outside the TAR studio or American soil.

Why would anyone even feel the need to defend anyone? It's a race to 8 playing 9ball. You clearly understand as much about pool as I do about baking pies.


I've never baked a pie.
 
SVB lost to Darren Appleton 8-3 in teh world pool masters and was unlucky it wasn't a whitewash. Now before we start I am not saying SVB is not one of the best players in the world, but like I said in other threads he cannot be deemed the best player on planet earth like Earl, Mika, Daz were when they were winning everything in sight.

I believe Bartram and JB cases scoffed at my claims in the week earlier. What do you have to say now when I told you all SVB was 8-1 because bookies aren't stupid, they know SVB kacks his pants when he is outside the TAR studio or American soil.



I might be a little confused, didn't SVB just take down the US Open for the second time in 2 years?!?

What is the point of this topic? He isn't elite because he lost 8-3? Sorry to break the news but he is human.
 
not really fair

Why would anyone even feel the need to defend anyone? It's a race to 8 playing 9ball. You clearly understand as much about pool as I do about baking pies.


I've never baked a pie.

I don't think he has ever watched or even been around pool. You know your way around a pie I'm guessing. Your giving him too much credit.
 
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SVB loses a coin toss... he now sucks at Pool and Darren is the best.
 
I don't think he has ever watched or even been around pool. You know your way around a pie I'm guessing. Your giving him too much credit.

I was thinking the same thing. Cleary might not be a avid, pie enthusiest, but he's eatin a slice here and there I would bet... :cool:
 
Now before we start I am not saying SVB is not one of the best players in the world, but like I said in other threads he cannot be deemed the best player on planet earth like Earl, Mika, Daz were when they were winning everything in sight.

Where were you since 2007?

Since 2007, Shane has won $810416 with 67 First Place finishes, including a TAR match directly against Darren that he won.

Since 2007, Darren has won $633270 with 27 First Place finishes.

This is not including any unofficial gambling matches, which we know Shane has played more of and definitely won more of.

Shane won alomst $200,000 more then Darren did over the past 6 years. That is impressive considering this is a sport that has no money it it. Also during those three years he more then doubled the total amount of first place finishes Darren had.

I'm not saying Darren is a bad player. Darren is one of the best players in the world and plays great and is a favorite of mine to watch. It is just a fact that Shane has won more tournaments and money overall then Darren, and it is my opinion that Shane is a better player then Darren based upon the above facts.

A race to 8 doesnt mean shit at their level. Hell, it doesnt mean shit at my level and Im a hack.
 
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What is the point of this topic? He isn't elite because he lost 8-3?

I actually think most people are missing the point (or maybe I'm misunderstanding it).

The OPs point isn't that Shane isn't elite, it isn't that he isn't one of the best players in the world; it's that Shane isn't the out and out clear number one player in the world. Not in the way that Daz was a couple of years back and Mika was a few years before that, when they were winning everything in sight and had a period of sustained dominance - not sustained good results, but sustained dominance - over the rest of the field in tournaments all over the world.

Now I'm not saying I think losing 8-3 proves that point, but most people seem to be taking this thread as an attack on SVB and an implication that because he lost he isn't one of the best players in the world. And I don't think that's the OP's point at all.
 
He had jet lag.

I'm not sure if that was made to be a joke due to the title, but LOL :thumbup:
Dry humor at it's best JAM hehe.

Losing a set 8-3 or even 8-0 to someone does not mean much. Can't beat anyone all the time.

I've lost several sets BAD, and won the other way against the same players. Last league match I played I lost with making 7 balls total, and I'm ranked in the top 10% of our players, I have to hit 83 points, and got 7!

Yet my game is strong enough that I have not dropped down bellow an 80 or so average in 10 ball and was ranked over 100 in 9-ball, which is solidly in the B to B+ and even Low A range. Even though I made 7 balls in a set against a C+ that time. I would still beat him 80% of the time, especially playing even.
 
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