Outsville Ki-Tech Single Layered Tips
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Well, I just won my first tourney using a Ki-Tech.
So, now I have a 1st, a 2nd (both smaller tourneys).....and a tied for 13th (cashed) in a 56-player event. That's all within a 1 month timespan.
Love 'em! It makes a huge difference when you finally find equipment you love and trust.
So, now I have a 1st, a 2nd (both smaller tourneys).....and a tied for 13th (cashed) in a 56-player event. That's all within a 1 month timespan.
Love 'em! It makes a huge difference when you finally find equipment you love and trust.
Glad you are shooting them in the hole Justin.... It is always the indian and not the arrow but it never hurts when the arrows fly straight and true =) and most importantly CONSISTENTLY........
I appreciate the plug and you have a package here going out Monday but in all honesty I am more interested in how the change in stance and head position is holding up for you and how much you think that is responsible for you playing better... I am in the middle of soo many things that it's not funny but I am working on an article that deals with parallax and the actual benefits of dominant positioning... No rest for the wicke....eeer weary.... :thumbup:
I have a ton of work this week and then off to the Open on Friday.... Hope you make it up for it... It's has to be on every pool players bucket list... new venue... same Barry... still a hard one to miss and the talent at QMasters is fabulous... and the pool players are OK too :grin:
Chris
I appreciate the plug and you have a package here going out Monday but in all honesty I am more interested in how the change in stance and head position is holding up for you and how much you think that is responsible for you playing better... I am in the middle of soo many things that it's not funny but I am working on an article that deals with parallax and the actual benefits of dominant positioning... No rest for the wicke....eeer weary.... :thumbup:
I have a ton of work this week and then off to the Open on Friday.... Hope you make it up for it... It's has to be on every pool players bucket list... new venue... same Barry... still a hard one to miss and the talent at QMasters is fabulous... and the pool players are OK too :grin:
Chris
Chris, it's honestly been a combination of several things, that have caused a nice leap forward in my game.
1. YES. The new stance and head position that we worked on has been HUGE. For the first time in my pool career (except for maybe when I was young and my eyes hadn't detriorated so much).....I can shoot with both eyes open. I stiiiiiiiill have that slight "shadow" over my left eye, where my brain wants to try to interfere, but I've learned to completely ignore it and focus on the task at hand.
1a. My footwork is better and is more in rhythmn with my PSR. It's a nice "checkpoint" and keeps me consistent.
2. Big props to a couple of things I saw on Lee Brett's DVD. I STILL have only watched about 1/3 of it, because between work, practicing at my friend's house, and actual tournament play........I haven't had the chance to sit down and finish the video and work on it at home. But, the key points dealt with "thinking outside the box" and "executing inside the box"........AND just as critical, as to how I slide my bridge hand into place.....instead of just dropping down and having my bridge just land where it lands.
Basically, I ease in slowly and slide my bridge hand in, all the while looking at the OB. This allows the bridge to "seek the perfect place" nice and slow. Before that, I'd just drop down and plant. Then I might fiddle around if something didn't feel right and that just wasn't working.
3. The Ki-Tech tip. Seriously. I just love it that much. It's as crisp as a $100 bill. I absolutely enjoy the sound of the hit like it's music to my ears. I can get pretty much any kind of English on it that I need to. It's just what suits me. Took a long time and several, several tips to get to that point, but I'm there now.
4. Studying, absorbing, playing and talking to players such as CJ Wiley, John Brumback, "The Renfro"
, Chris Melling, Johnny Archer, Nick Varner, Robert Frost, Adam Smith, Tor Lowry.....local players such as Bob Nunley, John James, Lynn Smith, etc. etc. I'm sure I'm leaving someone out.5. Complete faith in my cuemaker/friend/local player Gary Johnson. He's taught me some things at the table, but just as importantly, created a great playing cue that truly feels like it's part of me. Can't stress that point enough. We're trying to get together on a dedicated break cue, so I replace this cheap, but serviceable Dufferin breaker that I currently use. Gary makes the single best feeling breaker I've ever run across, so I'm hoping that I can have that in my hands by the spring.
6. Increased, consistent table time. 'Nuff said. No replacement for that.
7. Competitive pressure from my best friend, Tony Burch. We really push each other. A LOT. It's constantly a battle of one-upsmanship.
I won't be at the U.S. Open, but I'm really hoping I can hit the DCC this time around. I don't know if I'll have the vacation time to allot for it, but if I don't, then I guess I'll see what happens with the Tunica event for next year. If that doesn't go off, then I'll start planning for maybe the Spring-time event at White Diamonds or maybe something like a Banks tourney at Red Shoes, Michael's Billiards in Ohio........and probably some events in Cape Girardeau, MO. Lots of stuff goin on there and it's only a couple of hours away.
I want to start hitting more and more big stuff. I'm nowhere near where I should be to truly be considered a threat to ANYONE at events like those, but my game has jumped so much in just 2 years that I'm trying to stay positive and press myself.
Can't start a fire, unless you get in the grease, right?
I'll be looking for that package, btw, and thanks again! :thumbup:
Ki-Tech tips package received and correct as ordered.
Top notch service, as usual, from........The Renfro.
Top notch service, as usual, from........The Renfro.
In my very honest opinion, I think the S isn't like the normal S I've played with. Like take Kamui Black and Moori, I feel their S are almost or rather the same. Tom's Ultraskin and Morakami's S are a little more of the softer side when comparing S of different brand.
Ki Tech's S is slightly a little harder when compared to most brands outside. Of course this is my 2c worth. I trained for a good 2 hours with this tip and I must say I'm very amazed by it. Its grips the cue ball very well, even better than I expected. And honestly, I feel Ki Tech's hit is better than Jeff's milkduds.
Ki Tech's S is slightly a little harder when compared to most brands outside. Of course this is my 2c worth. I trained for a good 2 hours with this tip and I must say I'm very amazed by it. Its grips the cue ball very well, even better than I expected. And honestly, I feel Ki Tech's hit is better than Jeff's milkduds.
Glad you are liking them....
The external hardness is a little harder than a standard soft but the core on the soft is around a 40 so it will play like a soft and hold up for months before you will see any real changes in performance....
The same can be said for the medium as the exterior is harder than most mediums but the core comes in at 50 so it plays like a medium.. both feel a little harder than what people are used to but they aren't so hard as to sound hard and will play the way you would expect them to..
I wanted a tip that played a certain way and held up so the finishing stage involves hardeners added to the dye to firm up the exterior leather... Does make them feel a little harder but they will be what you bought 2-3-4 months in... Most tips on the market cannot do that at the soft and medium performance levels......
Chris
I cannot believe it's November already... The US Open is about 11 days of work and travel but it always seems to take that long or longer to get things back to normal on getting home... I don't know how Ray and some of the others manage to do the events week after week but being a consultant means I have other obligations that always seem to pile up when I go away for more than a weekend......
Anyway.... List of people I am looking for feedback from is getting larger.......
Mario Morra, Rob Saez, Pat Diveney, Steve Lomax, Gene Albrecht, Jim Wych, Joe Tucker got some more mediums and Paul Smith of Diamond ran off with a pocket full to take back to Louisville (he's a Ki-Tech soft addict now :grin
Also sent Lee Brett off with a bunch....
Lee was like a little kid when he tried them... Was awesome watching him make the cueball seemingly defy physics on loaded stuns and draw shots.....
I would like to thank all of you here on AZ who have been helping more than you know with the fine tuning of the tips... At this point Paul Smith has got me considering offering a custom tip developed for each player.. With the changes in processing I am confident I can make the perfect tip for anyone and not just the Ki-Techs which are tailored to my preferences and the feedback from across the board.... Ahh well that is another project on the horizon...
Outsville "Solid" break tips are about to hit the point where they go on sale... there is an Outsville "Solid" thread out if you are interested in being in a drawing to try them....
Accu-Racks v 2.0 will likely replace the 1.0 by December... So keep your eyes open for pictures here on AZ...
As usual shoot em straight and may all your racks be tight.....
Chris
Anyway.... List of people I am looking for feedback from is getting larger.......
Mario Morra, Rob Saez, Pat Diveney, Steve Lomax, Gene Albrecht, Jim Wych, Joe Tucker got some more mediums and Paul Smith of Diamond ran off with a pocket full to take back to Louisville (he's a Ki-Tech soft addict now :grin
Also sent Lee Brett off with a bunch.... Lee was like a little kid when he tried them... Was awesome watching him make the cueball seemingly defy physics on loaded stuns and draw shots.....
I would like to thank all of you here on AZ who have been helping more than you know with the fine tuning of the tips... At this point Paul Smith has got me considering offering a custom tip developed for each player.. With the changes in processing I am confident I can make the perfect tip for anyone and not just the Ki-Techs which are tailored to my preferences and the feedback from across the board.... Ahh well that is another project on the horizon...
Outsville "Solid" break tips are about to hit the point where they go on sale... there is an Outsville "Solid" thread out if you are interested in being in a drawing to try them....
Accu-Racks v 2.0 will likely replace the 1.0 by December... So keep your eyes open for pictures here on AZ...
As usual shoot em straight and may all your racks be tight.....
Chris
I cannot believe it's November already... The US Open is about 11 days of work and travel but it always seems to take that long or longer to get things back to normal on getting home... I don't know how Ray and some of the others manage to do the events week after week but being a consultant means I have other obligations that always seem to pile up when I go away for more than a weekend......
Anyway.... List of people I am looking for feedback from is getting larger.......
Mario Morra, Rob Saez, Pat Diveney, Steve Lomax, Gene Albrecht, Jim Wych, Joe Tucker got some more mediums and Paul Smith of Diamond ran off with a pocket full to take back to Louisville (he's a Ki-Tech soft addict now :grin
Lee was like a little kid when he tried them... Was awesome watching him make the cueball seemingly defy physics on loaded stuns and draw shots.....
I would like to thank all of you here on AZ who have been helping more than you know with the fine tuning of the tips... At this point Paul Smith has got me considering offering a custom tip developed for each player.. With the changes in processing I am confident I can make the perfect tip for anyone and not just the Ki-Techs which are tailored to my preferences and the feedback from across the board.... Ahh well that is another project on the horizon...
Outsville "Solid" break tips are about to hit the point where they go on sale... there is an Outsville "Solid" thread out if you are interested in being in a drawing to try them....
Accu-Racks v 2.0 will likely replace the 1.0 by December... So keep your eyes open for pictures here on AZ...
As usual shoot em straight and may all your racks be tight.....
Chris
Got the tip installed this morning and will be trying it out tonight after my coaching clinic today.
I will write a review once i really try it out. But from what i tried with your cue and John's the cue ball actually dances now, it was amazing the things i could do with it.
Looking forward to a video :thumbup:
Also good to hear that everyone was impressed with them last night... Getting closer and closer to getting distributorship in line and the pricing will be going up... Been taking a bath on Samplers but without TV they are the only way I know to advertise them and get them out there on the ends of people's shafts... At some point I will discontinue the Sampler packs but not likely until year end.....
Knock em dead out there,
Chris
Accidentally deleted a ton of PMs so if you are waiting on a reply to a question from this weekend please resubmit.... Thought I had archived but cannot find the file......
Chris
Chris
BEST TIP on the market by a long way... Looking forward to doing the promo video with Chris and accustats and showing everyone how good this tip is. Advanced technology has gone into this tip.
Buy them now before the price sky rockets..... Cos trust me this tip will cost you $40 soon and be worth every cent...
Buy them now before the price sky rockets..... Cos trust me this tip will cost you $40 soon and be worth every cent...
$40 for a tip??? heck why not $100 for a tip maybe $250 if people will pay for it and from the sound of it common sense has left the building already.
If Chris can get $40 a tip good for him.
Even though I'm a single layered fan and indeed IMO it hits better than Jeff's milkduds, I would say $40 for a tip is absurd.
hahah they won't be that high even in my dreams... Lee made the same comment the other day after he finally got to have one installed basing the $40 on Kamui getting $30 =) He's been like a big kid for a week now but I've been like that for a few months now since I finalized the processing... They won't be everyone's cup of tea but I see a need for a non-layered high performance tip for anyone who makes their living at the game..
I am supposed to be picking up a lathe soon where I can actually do my installs in my shop instead of driving to my cue maker's which will drastically speed up testing.... This means I should be able to do COR and Hardness tests while simulating life cycles of tips... Now I just need to find a good drawing of the old steam hammer they put up against John Henry to simulate play LOL... I intend to test and publish results on maybe a dozen tip brands in addition to my Ki-Techs.. Will be doing a poll to see which tips everyone wants to have included....
Right now since the advertising is word of mouth I will continue to offer the samplers likely until year end and until I have to raise pricing because of MSRPs and distributors I am keeping them as cheap as possible......
Chris
I am supposed to be picking up a lathe soon where I can actually do my installs in my shop instead of driving to my cue maker's which will drastically speed up testing.... This means I should be able to do COR and Hardness tests while simulating life cycles of tips... Now I just need to find a good drawing of the old steam hammer they put up against John Henry to simulate play LOL... I intend to test and publish results on maybe a dozen tip brands in addition to my Ki-Techs.. Will be doing a poll to see which tips everyone wants to have included....
Right now since the advertising is word of mouth I will continue to offer the samplers likely until year end and until I have to raise pricing because of MSRPs and distributors I am keeping them as cheap as possible......
Chris