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JB Cases said:
Didn't you just tell us you are playing with $35 chalk?
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BUT it's magic $35 chalk... You just apply it and viola instant improvement by a ball or 5..... The $70 book you have to read and apply AFTER comprehending.... Many people would deem the chalk a wayyy better investment around here.... :thumbup:

Chris
 
The Renfro said:
BUT it's magic $35 chalk... You just apply it and viola instant improvement by a ball or 5..... The $70 book you have to read and apply AFTER comprehending.... Many people would deem the chalk a wayyy better investment around here.... :thumbup:

Chris
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Yup, me for one. No book has ever cut my miscues in half.
 
Pathetic Shark said:
I did, and fail to see how it relates to the cost of a DVD or book.
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Knowledge is priceless. Chalk wears out. Fix your stroke and you don't need Kamui chalk. No one on the planet is doing more with the cue ball with Kamui chalk than without it IMO.

I'd gladly trade my cube for a dvd or book.

And if it only cut your miscues in half I'd say you were in very bad shape and Kamui isn't doing you any good at all because it is supposed to practically eliminate miscues.

How it relates is that your continued criticism of teaching material pricing while using chalk that is priced 1000x over the equivalent amount of the market leader, Masters, is glaringly hypocritical. The relative value to one's game of a good book versus a piece of chalk is immensely in favor of the book. If the chalk is worth $35 then the book should be $1000.
 
The Renfro said:
BUT it's magic $35 chalk... You just apply it and viola instant improvement by a ball or 5..... The $70 book you have to read and apply AFTER comprehending.... Many people would deem the chalk a wayyy better investment around here.... :thumbup:

Chris
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Yeah earlier I took my cue to the bathroom and put a swipe of Kamui chalk on the tip and came out and ran three 8 and outs.
 
JB Cases said:
Knowledge is priceless. Chalk wears out. Fix your stroke and you don't need Kamui chalk. No one on the planet is doing more with the cue ball with Kamui chalk than without it IMO.

I'd gladly trade my cube for a dvd or book.

And if it only cut your miscues in half I'd say you were in very bad shape and Kamui isn't doing you any good at all because it is supposed to practically eliminate miscues.

How it relates is that your continued criticism of teaching material pricing while using chalk that is priced 1000x over the equivalent amount of the market leader, Masters, is glaringly hypocritical. The relative value to one's game of a good book versus a piece of chalk is immensely in favor of the book. If the chalk is worth $35 then the book should be $1000.
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Lol. Nonsense. STILL not seeing the connection.
 
RiCHiE$RiCH said:
I'd say it's your stroke. Not the chalk. I have pre flag masters, predator, blue diamond, and old tournament chalk around my table. All of them work.
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There's a man who's obviously never used Pioneer chalk. It's like the reverse of kamui chalk or something, with miscues guaranteed.
 
JB Cases said:
Knowledge is priceless. Chalk wears out. Fix your stroke and you don't need Kamui chalk. No one on the planet is doing more with the cue ball with Kamui chalk than without it IMO.

I'd gladly trade my cube for a dvd or book.

And if it only cut your miscues in half I'd say you were in very bad shape and Kamui isn't doing you any good at all because it is supposed to practically eliminate miscues.

How it relates is that your continued criticism of teaching material pricing while using chalk that is priced 1000x over the equivalent amount of the market leader, Masters, is glaringly hypocritical. The relative value to one's game of a good book versus a piece of chalk is immensely in favor of the book. If the chalk is worth $35 then the book should be $1000.
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I agree with this. Working in the IT industry as I do, most times vendors will GIVE AWAY product (or at least drop their pants on prices so that the product is a loss-leader), just so the money can be made on the consulting. In other words, knowledge of how to properly configure that product and use it to its full potential.

I don't understand people who think that knowledge should be "free" or at minimal cost (e.g. merely covering the production cost of putting that "free" knowledge on DVD). Knowledge is hard-earned and is never free. Product, on the other hand, can be made nearly free with competition. In the product world, the consumer always wins. However, the consumer must pay for knowledge -- it certainly isn't spoonfed.

-Sean <-- gets a hefty rate for his knowledge of data center networking and information security -- stuff you won't find on Google or wiki
 
sfleinen said:
I agree with this. Working in the IT industry as I do, most times vendors will GIVE AWAY product (or at least drop their pants on prices so that the product is a loss-leader), just so the money can be made on the consulting. In other words, knowledge of how to properly configure that product and use it to its full potential.

I don't understand people who think that knowledge should be "free" or at minimal cost (e.g. merely covering the production cost of putting that "free" knowledge on DVD). Knowledge is hard-earned and is never free. Product, on the other hand, can be made nearly free with competition. In the product world, the consumer always wins. However, the consumer must pay for knowledge -- it certainly isn't spoonfed.

-Sean <-- gets a hefty rate for his knowledge of data center networking and information security -- stuff you won't find on Google or wiki
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And I don't understand those that seek to shill those who benefit from protectionism.

Has the internet not made all this redundant? See record labels Vs recording artists battles of recent years for shifting power struggles. The old models are dead.
 
dorabelle said:
Be a cold day in hell when I pay for someone to tell me what to eat, if I can go to a pool hall at the open, etx etc. you don't have to give up all the control in your life to learn how to become a good pool player.
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Well, it can also be said said that Rhea isn't paying Gene for his tutelage. If we were to consider that, she's far more of a drain than anything. Her monetary contribution is minuscule to what she SHOULD be getting from the relationship. Whether she learns ANYTHING, remains to be seen. Telling her to have more control isn't helpful, especially after she came to an understanding with Gene that she's an uneducated (pool related), poor decision maker. An apprentice in just about any trade has very little say about the process. This is no different.
 
JB Cases said:
Knowledge is priceless. Chalk wears out. Fix your stroke and you don't need Kamui chalk. No one on the planet is doing more with the cue ball with Kamui chalk than without it IMO.

I'd gladly trade my cube for a dvd or book.

And if it only cut your miscues in half I'd say you were in very bad shape and Kamui isn't doing you any good at all because it is supposed to practically eliminate miscues.

How it relates is that your continued criticism of teaching material pricing while using chalk that is priced 1000x over the equivalent amount of the market leader, Masters, is glaringly hypocritical. The relative value to one's game of a good book versus a piece of chalk is immensely in favor of the book. If the chalk is worth $35 then the book should be $1000.
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John, I used to think the same thing. I never really did miscue a lot anyway and felt the Kamui hype was silly. I was finally convinced to try some and haven't looked back. I haven't miscued in months (I don't break, I only play 14.1). I don't need to chalk after every hit. I can't recommend the product enough and I very seldom do that. I will admit though that I get all I want for free. I'm not sure how I'd feel about actually paying for it, but the product results to me are quantifiable and certain.
 
NYC cue dude said:
Well, it can also be said said that Rhea isn't paying Gene for his tutelage. If we were to consider that, she's far more of a drain than anything. Her monetary contribution is minuscule to what she SHOULD be getting from the relationship. Whether she learns ANYTHING, remains to be seen. Telling her to have more control isn't helpful, especially after she came to an understanding with Gene that she's an uneducated (pool related), poor decision maker. An apprentice in just about any trade has very little say about the process. This is no different.
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I think what Dorabelle is trying to say is that Gene should treat Rhea with more respect, especially online with his "my way or the highway" rantings.

It now appears that Rhea was the one who first noticed that Gene is suffering from frequent seizures. Gene should show a little gratitude to Rhea for bringing this to his attention and possibly even saving his life. In addition, Gene is now under doctors orders to forgo driving for the next six months while he is on medication. Well, guess who will be driving Gene around now?

For better or for worse, it appears that these two are joined at the hip for another six months. :eek: :wink:
 
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