Two-Foul 9 Ball

You have made 3 posts in this thread. The 1st one was unintelligible/nonsensical in the absence of naming what type game you referenced. Yet nobody questioned it.

Your 2nd post was apparently not what you meant as you wrote in your 3rd post.

I have a question for you: Do you think this thread and these 3 types of games would be easier to figure out if respondents actually wrote what they meant? You have been a member for 4 years and have over 2100 posts so I would think it incumbent upon you to state your meaning in your posts. Agreed?

ONB

Let's see...joined a week ago or so. Just keep reading and it'll start to make sense. Or are you a reincarnation from another banned personality? Either way, this thread will just have to get past your whining, O9B. sFun_crazydance.gif

Best,
Mike
 
"patience is for those that can't shoot straight using TOI".

Many players that wouldn't match up playing 9 ball would bite on last pocket 8 ball or some one pocket. If you could give them the 7 ball, they would still try you at straights, too. They figured a 9 ball player didn't have the patience to be any good at these games. :grin-square:

Best,
Mike

Yes, indeed, I used to say "patience is for those that can't shoot straight using TOI"


I'm just kidding, I'd NEVER tell anyone about using the TOI (touch of inside) :D

I know some think I'm not serious, but using the 3 Part Pocket System is what made my game almost unbeatable playing "Two Shot Shoot Out' because I can target either side of the pocket at will.....this means I can take more tougher shots knowing I'll miss on the "Pro Side" (over-cut side) of the pocket......this is a secret, so don't tell anyone.

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When getting a handicap is was better for the player to be able to "re roll out" because they could redirect your roll out to one that had one of their "money balls" in the path.

I played the 2nd best "One Handed" player in the world and gave him the 5/7 and the break on a bar table. He insisted on playing "two fouls by the same person" and I obliged him.

The only way I could beat him is to roll out to jump shots.....as soon as he saw I could make the shots he HAD to re roll out. I had anticipated this and what he didn't "real eyes" is it's a huge disadvantage to roll out against me on a bar table.

I beat him out of $3000. that night, but dodged him the next night to play again. He played another champion bar table player and beat him out of $12,000....he didn't know the strategy I'd used against the one handed player and "went off" trying to give him that huge spot.

The fact was I had no chance giving him that game and I knew it, of course no one in the world could give him that much of a "spot".....sometimes you have to accept you out ran the "Nutz" and get out of town. ;) 'The Game is the Teacher'

You spend all this time & energy writing up a post that's totally non-responsive to what I wrote (and you quoted), you throw in all this bait and don't even get a nibble. Must be cause for depression. Of course, you always have the other thread to tell everyone how great you were.

ONB
 
Let's see...joined a week ago or so. Just keep reading and it'll start to make sense. Or are you a reincarnation from another banned personality? Either way, this thread will just have to get past your whining, O9B.

Best,
Mike

None of your posts in this thread are intelligible to anyone over 8 years old.

ONB
 
None of your posts in this thread are intelligible to anyone over 8 years old.

ONB

I'm really glad we had this chance to get to know each other. I guess you make friends easily after reading your last few posts. Too bad you'll prolly self destruct in 3...2...1 angrysmiley17.gif. GL to ya'!

Best,
Mike
 
No need to worry about who's on one foul or not. Shoot or pass

None of your posts in this thread are intelligible to anyone over 8 years old.

ONB

Somebody woke up on the "wrong side of the bed" or forgot to take their "happy pill" today. :groucho: I recommend Geritol (You'll feel stronger fast)

The following post Mike made yesterday is correct, concise and true from my experience. We believe most people over 8 years old were able to discern what the surface structure AND the deep meaning was in the post Mike made below......maybe you meant over 80 year old. :shrug:

Yesterday, 06:27 PM
Any tournament or gambling session I played in was any two fouls. Re-rolling out was "frowned upon", as in, "WTF are you doing?" You either took the shot or passed it back. No need to worry about who's on one foul or not. Shoot or pass.

Any two fouls was understood as the preferred game whether you were playing a local at the gin mill or a top player at the pool hall. Anything else was usually a move and a reason to kill the action. There were the usual questions like spotting balls and if you had to hit a different rail on frozen balls, but the game wasn't as hard to figure out as this thread has made it. You shoot or pass it back. Now, the moves on the roll outs...they were legendary!

Best,
Mike
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The following post Mike made yesterday is correct, concise and true from my experience. We believe most people over 8 years old were able to discern what the surface structure AND the deep meaning was in the post Mike made below......maybe you meant over 80 year old.

There's no doubt in my mind that you understood his post, given that you meet my requirements for understanding it.

Are you aware that he had to make a clarification post to explain the 1st two sentences? Didn't think so since it was correct & precise to you.

People on this site are warned off of sparring with you and are accused of harassing you if they disagree too often but you have posted misinformation in this thread and attacked what I've written even though I started it to get the correct info out there as opposed to the constant "Two Shot Shootout" gibberish in the other thread. You've done nothing except sow confusion in this thread & you've helped nobody. That is apparently your MO.

ONB
 
are you really chosen to speak for "everyone"? That's just craziness.

There's no doubt in my mind that you understood his post, given that you meet my requirements for understanding it.

Are you aware that he had to make a clarification post to explain the 1st two sentences? Didn't think so since it was correct & precise to you.

People on this site are warned off of sparring with you and are accused of harassing you if they disagree too often but you have posted misinformation in this thread and attacked what I've written even though I started it to get the correct info out there as opposed to the constant "Two Shot Shootout" gibberish in the other thread. You've done nothing except sow confusion in this thread & you've helped nobody. That is apparently your MO.

ONB

"People are warned off of sparring with you"....do you mean literally sparring or are you using a euphemism? Talk about lacking clarification. Does anyone consider talking about the game of pool "sparring"??? What is this MMA? ::thud: We are ok with having friendly debates, it's just a game for goodness sake.....much like golf or poker.

"harassing me" - again, you lack clarification, no one's ever ask me if I've been "harassed" so how would anyone know? The only thing they don't like on this forum is vulgar, abusive language, other than that we're all ok with most forms of communication.

The Game is called 'Two Shot Shoot Out'......the "roll out" and "push out" are expressions, but "Shoot Again" is what opponents say AFTER the "roll/push out," and that's where the Games gets it's name.

"You've done nothing except sow confusion in this thread & you've helped nobody." - this is inaccurate, I've had several people PM me regarding 'Two Shot Shoot Out' and they were clear and I did help them with their original and further questions. Besides are you really chosen to speak for "everyone"? That's just craziness.

I have posted no "misinformation".....again, it is you that is casting confusion.

You, my friend are showing your hand and are the one that's "sowing confusion"....you can tell the tree by the fruit and your fruit is spoiled rotten.

Mike was right, you are one of the trolls that was barred "back again" for more arguing and condensention.
 
There's no doubt in my mind that you understood his post, given that you meet my requirements for understanding it.

Are you aware that he had to make a clarification post to explain the 1st two sentences? Didn't think so since it was correct & precise to you.
People on this site are warned off of sparring with you and are accused of harassing you if they disagree too often but you have posted misinformation in this thread and attacked what I've written even though I started it to get the correct info out there as opposed to the constant "Two Shot Shootout" gibberish in the other thread. You've done nothing except sow confusion in this thread & you've helped nobody. That is apparently your MO.

ONB

The follow up post by me was done as a courtesy to you and dababr. Dababr is known to me as a knowledgeable, credible poster. You seemed earnest in your replies, so I took the time to keep the communication open and flowing.

Your follow up posts have degraded to trying to stir up a $hit storm and will be ignored by me from here on out. As a new member, you aren't here to discuss anything. Starting this thread was a ruse to confuse and troll the posters in it. Rather than be on the defensive, I'll just say ta, and ta-ta! wave_smiley92.gif

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Best,
Mike
 
"People are warned off of sparring with you"....do you mean literally sparring or are you using a euphemism? Talk about lacking clarification. Does anyone consider talking about the game of pool "sparring"??? What is this MMA? ::thud: We are ok with having friendly debates, it's just a game for goodness sake.....much like golf or poker.

"harassing me" - again, you lack clarification, no one's ever ask me if I've been "harassed" so how would anyone know? The only thing they don't like on this forum is vulgar, abusive language, other than that we're all ok with most forms of communication.

The Game is called 'Two Shot Shoot Out'......the "roll out" and "push out" are expressions, but "Shoot Again" is what opponents say AFTER the "roll/push out," and that's where the Games gets it's name.

"You've done nothing except sow confusion in this thread & you've helped nobody." - this is inaccurate, I've had several people PM me regarding 'Two Shot Shoot Out' and they were clear and I did help them with their original and further questions. Besides are you really chosen to speak for "everyone"? That's just craziness.

I have posted no "misinformation".....again, it is you that is casting confusion.

You, my friend are showing your hand and are the one that's "sowing confusion"....you can tell the tree by the fruit and your fruit is spoiled rotten.

Mike was right, you are one of the trolls that was barred "back again" for more arguing and condensention.

I don't really care too much about PM's sent to you, I've not seen them nor the dates they were sent so they don't exist to me. I clearly stated in post #1 of this thread that I would answer any questions put forth by anyone concerning this thread. Nobody needed to ask you anything.

I'll say again, there are 3 ways of playing Two-Foul 9 Ball.

You have denied the existence of the 3rd way even though I've clearly stated that I've played it as have others in this thread.

Your posts are very disingenuous at best and complete fabrications at worst.

You have not "clarified" anything for anyone in this thread, you have confused the very things I was trying to clarify.

ONB
 
I don't really care too much about PM's sent to you, I've not seen them nor the dates they were sent so they don't exist to me. I clearly stated in post #1 of this thread that I would answer any questions put forth by anyone concerning this thread. Nobody needed to ask you anything.

I'll say again, there are 3 ways of playing Two-Foul 9 Ball.

You have denied the existence of the 3rd way even though I've clearly stated that I've played it as have others in this thread.

Your posts are very disingenuous at best and complete fabrications at worst.

You have not "clarified" anything for anyone in this thread, you have confused the very things I was trying to clarify.

ONB

Let it go. It's over.
 
Let it go. It's over.

CJ has now said that I'm a "troll" and a "banned member" who has come back under another name. Both are lies.

Would you let it go if someone said that about you?

I started this thread to spread true & correct information, CJ has disputed & denied much of what I've written here.

You don't need to spend any more time or words telling me to "let it go". CJ is not a nice person and he cloaks his nastiness in "polite" words and the knowledge that many here give him a tremendous leeway when ridiculing others who have not ridiculed him.

P.S. If the moderators here promised me they wouldn't reveal who I was, I would tell them. All they have to do is send me a PM and ask me and make the promise. I guarantee you they will know me or of me.

ONB
 
CJ has now said that I'm a "troll" and a "banned member" who has come back under another name. Both are lies.

Would you let it go if someone said that about you?

I started this thread to spread true & correct information, CJ has disputed & denied much of what I've written here.

You don't need to spend any more time or words telling me to "let it go". CJ is not a nice person and he cloaks his nastiness in "polite" words and the knowledge that many here give him a tremendous leeway when ridiculing others who have not ridiculed him.

P.S. If the moderators here promised me they wouldn't reveal who I was, I would tell them. All they have to do is send me a PM and ask me and make the promise. I guarantee you they will know me or of me.

ONB

I think you a tad paranoid and overly sensitive. When it's no longer that time of the month for you you can revisit the two shot discussion.
 
I think you a tad paranoid and overly sensitive. When it's no longer that time of the month for you you can revisit the two shot discussion.

When CJ replies to my post, as he surely will, why don't you show some backbone and tell him "it's over, let it go"? If you don't, you are just a troll yourself.

If you don't have something to contribute to the discussion of "two-foul 9 ball" why continue on with me? Let it go already.

ONB
 
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Here's an on topic question.

In today's one foul 9b, most pros prefer to play longer races or ahead sets to even out the rolls.

Is that necessary as much in shoot out 9b since the luck factor is decreased?
 
Here's an on topic question.

In today's one foul 9b, most pros prefer to play longer races or ahead sets to even out the rolls.

Is that necessary as much in shoot out 9b since the luck factor is decreased?

This is such a good question:).

Most guys, when playing 9 ball, if they think they are the "better" player (and why play if you don't think that?) want to go to a longer race. It's in the longer race that the "better" player's talents and knowledge surface (and luck is reduced).

To give a specific answer to your question; no, it's not as necessary but it sure doesn't hurt:).

The "luck" factor is certainly decreased in "two-foul 9 ball" but it can still appear every now & then.

The overwhelming evidence will show that the longer the set, in any game, the better player will more often win.

Many 7 games World Series would've been over with a different result if a race to 3 had been employed, as an example).

Two-Foul does indeed remove much luck from the game but if you were playing a guy a race to 7 and the score was 6-6. luck could still rear it's ugly head.

P.S. I love your avatar pic. I love Karen too.

ONB
 
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