John Barton---Marketing Expert

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The planned One Pocket match between John and Lou is the way a pool match should be marketed. The enthusiasm, woofing, antagonizing, etc., much in advance certainly has my attention.

Are these two the elite of the One Pocket world --- hardly. But John may be the Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali of the pool marketing world. Love or hate his antics he has an audience.
 
The planned One Pocket match between John and Lou is the way a pool match should be marketed. The enthusiasm, woofing, antagonizing, etc., much in advance certainly has my attention.

Are these two the elite of the One Pocket world --- hardly. But John may be the Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali of the pool marketing world. Love or hate his antics he has an audience.

:-) Well....it didn't start out to be a marketing experiment but it's turned into one. Honestly from the beginning I had planned to at least document my journey just to have a record of it. That thread was derailed and could have been epic. Now the journey spans several threads but that's ok.

I think it's funny that internet barking has resulted in a 10k+ matchup. We are not the first though, cubc and omgwtf started it - cubc went in with a lot of overconfidence and got whipped by the underdog. Bartrum and Geno finally played and - Bartrum put the smack down on Geno but Geno showed some skills anyway and a little heart to get in the box at all.

Now we have Louie "Louser" Figueroa - vs. John "Keyboard Commando" Barton - the system vs. feel grudge match of all time.

I have always thought I could beat Lou even when I knew nothing about him other than he was a pompous person who had nothing better to do than put down strangers on forums. After I beat him the first time we played - wherein he DOGGED the outs I handed and where I got lucky to splash the rack and run out - I have never felt for a second like the underdog against this guy.

But he and his corporation obviously feel that he is the huge favorite or they wouldn't have dared to bet this much on him against me. So we will see, either I am hopelessly delusional and will be dismantled by a far better player OR we will see Lou fall apart and get his butt handed to him by a scrappy case maker.

In any event I am doing all I can to prepare for this and have fun along the way. To include playing all the players I can afford to play along the way. I learn something from every player I have played so far. I have played some $20 one hole, $200 one hole, $500 one hole and have booked mostly losers but each match has been a lesson where I learn at least one or two good moves.

And I am making friends along the way. Meeting great players sharing stories and having a great time. I don't know how it could be any better for me right now. I feel like I have already gotten way more than $10,000 worth of experience out it and of course the marketing for my cases that comes along with it has been great as well.

When we play it will be a good show and win or lose I will have it forever as proof that I stepped up when it was time to step up. I can always hold my head up and say that I went up against a forum bully in real life. If Lou is stealing as some think and some have flat out said, then he can brag about how he stole 10k from John Barton. So to me it's a win for me either way because I know that IF Lou wins he is too chickenshit to play anyone his own speed for that much. He will go back to being a $25 player and I will go on to have a great life with all my new friends all over the country.

But if I win......which I will......imagine the aftermath for Louser and his backers???
 
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JB is like the Chael Sonnen of the pool world now. Look him up.




John, if you win, you should make a commemorative case and auction it off. Donate the proftis to a billiards based charity,or a university pool club.
 
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If you win......act like you won before.

Watchez is the teacher.

You mean be gracious, extend my hand in friendship and not mention it any more like I did for him after I beat him the first time?

What would be the fun in that?
 
Not even close. Although Chael is sort of growing on me.

well,h e was the first person to pop into my mind. Chael got famous because he marketed himself into a title shot, and then sold the fight almost singlehandedly. A lot of people had grown disgusted with the then champ after his last fight.Sonnen got people interested again with his antics.
So the comparison is that you're doing way moreo sell interest in this match than Lou is. Sure, Lou has people like Dick and others doing th legwork, allowing him to look clean in the trashtalk, but that's no fun.
 
This is a quick video of Stan's training room that I shot last week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn7KszAWRso&feature=em-upload_owner

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John, the video was done very well. I'm sure that a lot of people that see it will want to learn Pro 1.
 
...He and his corporation obviously feel that he is the huge favorite or they wouldn't have dared to bet this much on him against me. So we will see, either I am hopelessly delusional and will be dismantled by a far better player OR we will see Lou fall apart and get his butt handed to him by a YAPPY case maker.<--I'm betting on the former..You ARE hopelessly delusional !

In any event I am doing all I can to prepare for this and have fun along the way. To include playing all the players I can afford to play along the way. I learn something from every player I have played so far. I have played some $20 one hole, $200 one hole, $500 one hole and have booked mostly losers <--Not surprising at all, John.. but each match has been a lesson where I learn at least one or two good moves.

This will be the root of your downfall, John !..That is the beauty of one pocket..The few moves you say you have learned,...may not come up again, in the next 500 games you play !..By that time, you will have forgotten them..You
have to possess imagination, and creativity for every different situation, as it presents itself...And that ONLY comes
from EXPERIENCE... (Stan can't help you)..So far, you have only shown you are very 'creative', at ways to lose your
money, to just about anyone you play !..:rolleyes: :o..

I wasn't going to comment, but you leave yourself so open to ridicule, I just couldn't resist !.. I hope Roadking and Renfro will forgive me..:sorry:.......Go ahead John, this is where you tell everybody, (FOR THE 2000th TIME) how you destroyed Lou,..
8 yrs. ago, in a meaningless tournament, 2 games to 1..:rolleyes: (this could well prove to be VERY expensive for you, John :o)
 
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I don't know about forgiving but I am going to stay out of this thread. Which you will turn into a JB bash. I've learned or am trying to learn how to keep my nose out of something that has nothing to do with me. Especially when I have no chance of winning against an Az committee that is totally bias & plays favoritism towards one side. So you 2 have at it.
I will wish Mr. Barton good luck in his match.
 
This will be the root of your downfall, John !..That is the beauty of one pocket..The few moves you say you have learned,...may not come up again, in the next 500 games you play !..By that time, you will have forgotten them..You
have to possess imagination, and creativity for every different situation, as it presents itself...And that ONLY comes
from EXPERIENCE... (Stan can't help you)..So far, you have only shown you are very 'creative', at ways to lose your
money, to just about anyone you play !..:rolleyes: :o..

I wasn't going to comment, but you leave yourself so open to ridicule, I just couldn't resist !.. I hope Roadking and Renfro will forgive me..:sorry:.......Go ahead John, this is where you tell everybody, (FOR THE 2000th TIME) how you destroyed Lou,..
8 yrs. ago, in a meaningless tournament, 2 games to 1..:rolleyes: (this could well prove to be VERY expensive for you, John :o)

Well, we will see. As I told you in private I think that if all three of us were in the pool room together you would detest Lou and love me. I promise you I am millions of times more creative than Lou is. That doesn't mean I can't learn from others.

I didn't destroy Lou but I beat him. According to him at the time I should NEVER win a single game much less two of them.

Lou had been there all day practicing on the table we played on. I came running into the pool room from the Windy City Open and jumped right into playing matches. First I beat Deno in 9 ball and then I beat Lou in one pocket.

Now....I didn't know a lot about one pocket at that time, only picked it up a few years earlier and really wasn't playing much. So Lou, the great one pocket god should have wiped the floor with me. But he didn't, he flat out DOGGED IT and I ran the balls I could shoot at.

You're right that might end up being the most expensive one pocket lesson, to rely on that one tiny victory. But what I know is that Lou consistently dodged me and until Fast Lenny put up a thread offering to back Lou for 20k against me Lou wouldn't even attempt to play me for $100 any of the times he saw me. Never, not once, ever.

Now I have seen him twice more since we made this game and both times he ran away not wanting to play. Now I can understand if SOMEONE thinks Lou has the nuts but I am fairly sure he doesn't think that way. Because IF he did then he would have already taken me up on my offer to post the whole 10k and play some now for 500-1k per game and he would have jumped at me offering to double the March bet.

The mythical backers he claims were clocking my match at DCC would have approached me to lay as much as I wanted if "they" thought Lou really had the nuts. But the fact is that NONE of the non-existent "people" Lou claims have his back have contacted me to up their end and Lou's heart is getting tinier by the minute.

I have tried to come at this nose wide open and bet as much as I can possibly stand to bet. When the guy and his backers won't go any higher then it tells me they don't really like the position they are already in. That's my read on it anyway.

As far as I am concerned the 10k is already gone. I can only get it back plus 10k more or it remains spent.

One thing I am certain of, Lou will not be one friend richer by the time this match is over but I am already dozens of friends wealthier because of this journey.
 
And SJD - if you or the mythical Louser Corporation wants to let Lou play the guys I have lost to on the road then I will back each and every one of them for 5 to 20 thousand per match, same way races to nine.

But we already know the answer to that don't we? Everyone in St. Louis knows the answer to that. Everyone on AZB knows the the answer to that.

Louser Corp, THINKS they have a soft target here. They might have been right but I am going out and finding the best sparring partners I can afford to toughen me up. If it works then whatever I might lack in one hole knowledge might be bolstered enough to match the heart I have going in.

I am one hundred percent certain that a confirmed nit lock artist with zero heart will wilt if the mark starts outrunning the nuts. Seen it happen a thousand times. And Lou IS a confirmed nit. I did my homework on that. Sorry but it doesn't take heart to play a guy you think you will steal from. So unless you can teach him some heart don't count too much on him being able to outmove or outshoot me.
 
Not even close. Although Chael is sort of growing on me.

This is not surprising, John... I googled Sonnen, and I see that in the last 2 yrs. he has garnered an amazing record, of
3 losses, 1 win, and one No Decision !...(much better than your record)...I can certainly see why you would look up to him, and be envious of his accomplishments ! :o

PS..Was he part of your 'well trained' crew ?..:confused:

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This is not surprising, John... I googled Sonnen, and I see that in the last 2 yrs. he has garnered an amazing record, of
3 losses, 1 win, and one No Decision !...(much better than your record)...I can certainly see why you would look up to him, and be envious of his accomplishments ! :o

PS..Was he part of your 'well trained' crew ?..:confused:

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Well so far my record is 1:0 against Lou. And ten years of him ducking me.

Chael at least gets in the ring to back up his smack talk. As do I.
 
Now we have Louie "Louser" Figueroa - vs. John "Keyboard Commando" Barton - the system vs. feel grudge match of all time.

Definitely one for the ages
I would call a press conference pretty soon, maybe get some mainstream woofers interested.
Like they did in this one:

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And SJD - if you or the mythical Louser Corporation wants to let Lou play the guys I have lost to on the road then I will back each and every one of them for 5 to 20 thousand per match, same way races to nine.

But we already know the answer to that don't we? Everyone in St. Louis knows the answer to that. Everyone on AZB knows the the answer to that.

Louser Corp, THINKS they have a soft target here. They might have been right but I am going out and finding the best sparring partners I can afford to toughen me up. If it works then whatever I might lack in one hole knowledge might be bolstered enough to match the heart I have going in.

I am one hundred percent certain that a confirmed nit lock artist with zero heart will wilt if the mark starts outrunning the nuts. Seen it happen a thousand times. And Lou IS a confirmed nit. I did my homework on that. Sorry but it doesn't take heart to play a guy you think you will steal from. So unless you can teach him some heart don't count too much on him being able to outmove or outshoot me.

John, Please, please, please,..come up with some new material !..As Shakesphere said.. "I believe he doth protest too much"...Your redundancy is becoming unbearable !..Even Roadking gave up on you ! (I think ?)

Your phony ranting and raving about Lou, (and your incessant bragging) are costing you the few illiterate, ignorami you had on your side !..Good God man, wise up ! :cool:..I wasn't going to comment, but you leave yourself so open to ridicule, I just could'nt resist ! :sorry:...By the way, you have not responded to my last PM..I did not mean to leave you without options ! :o

You are making Obama look like a genius !

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John, Please, please, please,..come up with some new material !..As Shakesphere said.. "I believe he doth protest too much"...Your redundancy is becoming unbearable !..Even Roadking gave up on you ! (I think ?)

Your phony ranting and raving about Lou, (and your incessant bragging) are costing you the few illiterate, ignorami you had on your side !..Good God man, wise up ! :cool:..I wasn't going to comment, but you leave yourself so open to ridicule, I just could'nt resist ! :sorry:...By the way, you have not responded to my last PM..I did not mean to leave you without options ! :o

You are making Obama look like a genius !

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C'mon now Dick... That Obama line is uncalled for and impossible to boot... you know this man!!! :yeah:
 
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