John Barton VS Lou Figueroa

[JB Cases]

Whilst some people are easily pleased, and clearly have never spent much time around great players, I quite like these exercises for forcing you into thinking more about the dimensions of the table, which is useful for advanced positional play.

But the exercise itself is lame and few experienced players will not be able to replicate these with ease, system or no system. Still, if Barton wants to come to England and offer $100,000 to replicate it, I'll start compiling a list.

Compile your list because you have failed to understand the importance of the demonstration. It's not easy to do what Anthony did. It's not lame at all and this is the point.

If it's so lame then why don't YOU do it.

Anthony uses an aiming system, you know those methods you think are pure rubbish and not needed to play pool.......the ones you are always knocking.....he uses one or more and has put in the time to master them.....which is the point.

It is a shame I had to goad him into doing the demonstration but the fact is he showed that a dedicated player WITH an aiming system has a lot of firepower at his disposal. That's the point you will never get.

 

[TheThaiger]

This is what I see Tony. If you have something you want me to see make it public.

He did it. Pay up.

And, unlike some, he completed the challenge in full - including the final ball, John.

 

[TheThaiger]

Compile your list because you have failed to understand the importance of the demonstration. It's not easy to do what Anthony did. It's not lame at all and this is the point.

If it's so lame then why don't YOU do it.

Anthony uses an aiming system, you know those methods you think are pure rubbish and not needed to play pool.......the ones you are always knocking.....he uses one or more and has put in the time to master them.....which is the point.

It is a shame I had to goad him into doing the demonstration but the fact is he showed that a dedicated player WITH an aiming system has a lot of firepower at his disposal. That's the point you will never get.

LOL. So, this was all part of your master plan?

 

[TheThaiger]

In other words it's work but the payoff is worth it. You want to shoot like Stan, like Gerry, like Anthony? Then work on your understanding of how to aim properly AND put the table time in. That's been the point all along.

:bow-down::bow-down::bow-down:

 

[JB Cases]

LOL. So, this was all part of your master plan?

Of course it is. Do you think I am so stupid as to let Anthony hustle me after I have been one of the biggest admirers of his demonstrated skill and aiming system proficiency on this forum?

Why on earth would you think that I would think someone who has put the time in and who has all the keys (aiming system knowledge) in their arsenal wouldn't be able to do what Stan does?

The "master" plan is now and always has been to promote the power of aiming systems, and especially the ones taught by Hal Houle and those who learned from him. As I have said hundreds of times I am a cheerleader for these methods and student of them.

No feel player aiming system opponent has stepped up to do these shots. Bring one who says they shoot by the seat of their pants just get down and shoot and show us.

No ghost ball user - duckie for example - has stepped up to do these.

Only three people besides Stan have shown multiple solutions to pocket the ball from a single position - all dedicated system users who have mastered the methods they use.

Gerry, Morht, and Anthony.

And I will do it when I have time and a table and nobody distracting me.

 

[JB Cases]

He did it. Pay up.

And, unlike some, he completed the challenge in full - including the final ball, John.

Actually he didn't - he didn't shoot the two rail zig zag shots that Stan did but I said close enough.

And try to keep up - I already told him to send me his paypal info.

Now it's your turn to do this "easy" task. What I find funny is that you are so desperate to see me crushed that you will latch on to a confirmed aiming system user completing the task I said any good aiming system user can do.

So in your mind - aiming systems are useless rubbish - UNLESS of course a player uses them to "beat" someone you don't like - THEN they are good tools.

 

[(((Satori)))]

Is the $1000 offer still good for me?

 

[JB Cases]

Is the $1000 offer still good for me?

Nah, you have to be identified first. If you're Pat Johnson then the offer is 100% good if you duplicate Stan's videos EXACTLY on equipment with the same specs. Otherwise you get $100 if you do it on any other equipment.

I don't feel like giving anonymous trolls money. Tell us your name and show proof and then you get to participate in my contests.

Because I know for a fact that Pat Johnson will NEVER take the time to learn CTE or any system anywhere close to it.

Edit. I was informed that Satori had said in private message that he has Stan's ProOne dvd. Therefore as previously stated he is disqualified from the $1000 challenge because he/she has access to the needed information to do these shots. Sorry but if you have the keys you shouldn't be asking to get paid to use them.

However if this person identifies himself or herself and duplicates the videos then I will pay the $100 as I stated I will.

 

[8pack]

See I knew you could do it. You didn't need to try and hustle me. This is what shooting with an aiming system and dedication looks like at the highest level. Although you didn't replicate Stan's videos it's close enough to get the $100. Send me your paypal.

Now.......any non system feel players want to try it?



I never said that there isn't any other system that works. And we don't know exactly what Anthony IS using because he never tells us. He says he uses a system but won't reveal which or give anyone any instruction. Could be ProOne for all we know. But I agree that he is clearly using a system which is the point for me. Only someone who is using a systematic and objective way to aim can duplicate this series of shots.

Duckie can't do it, Pat Johnson-Satori can't do it, Lou can't do it. And any system aimer who isn't diligent about practicing and making the system a fluid part of their game can't do it.

In other words it's work but the payoff is worth it. You want to shoot like Stan, like Gerry, like Anthony? Then work on your understanding of how to aim properly AND put the table time in. That's been the point all along.

No systems johnny, just trial and error with a lot of feel.The truth is, if I did use a system, I'm positive I couldn't of done it. That's the truth.


How hard can it be to actually figure out a fixed shot??Not hard at all.While these videos can be entertaining to watch they may lead the viewers into believing this guy knows what he's doing, we have something special here.I assure you there's nothing special here and I bet many people here could do just as good if not better.

Keep your money johnny ,don't want it.


Anthony

 

[(((Satori)))]

Edit. I was informed that Satori had said in private message that he has Stan's ProOne dvd. Therefore as previously stated he is disqualified from the $1000 challenge because he/she has access to the needed information to do these shots. Sorry but if you have the keys you shouldn't be asking to get paid to use

I got a legit lol out of that.

 

[JB Cases]

No systems johnny, just trial and error with a lot of feel.The truth is, if I did use a system, I'm positive I couldn't of done it. That's the truth.


How hard can it be to actually figure out a fixed shot??Not hard at all.While these videos can be entertaining to watch they may lead the viewers into believing this guy knows what he's doing, we have something special here.I assure you there's nothing special here and I bet many people here could do just as good if not better.

Keep your money johnny ,don't want it.


Anthony

Sorry don't believe you.

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[BeiberLvr]

How hard can it be to actually figure out a fixed shot??Not hard at all.

I actually agree with this, and allowing someone [such as yourself] ample time to practice these shots, it actually puts John at a disadvantage.

However, the real benefit of CTE/Pro One is that you don't have to spend as much time practicing those banks to get them down.

 

[JB Cases]

I actually agree with this, and allowing someone [such as yourself] ample time to practice these shots, it actually puts John at a disadvantage.

However, the real benefit of CTE/Pro One is that you don't have to spend as much time practicing those banks to get them down.

I still don't believe that he shot them all first try no system. The reason I do not is because I don't think you go from being a dedicated system user to a feel player.

But if he says he did then that's between him and God because we will never know.

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[TheThaiger]

Sorry don't believe you.

Seeing is believing, B.

Shots from a fixed position are nothing but trick shots. If this system is so good you could make those shots from anywhere on the table. I think it's main benefit is teaching beginners how the balls interact and cannot see how even a semi proficient player would get enough out of it to warrant taking time to learn it.

But it's a free country.

 

[Gerry Williams]

The system does work from any location. Give me a reasonable cue ball object ball position and I assure you I will find several pocket solutions for it using CTE Pro One.

Seeing is believing, B.

Shots from a fixed position are nothing but trick shots. If this system is so good you could make those shots from anywhere on the table. I think it's main benefit is teaching beginners how the balls interact and cannot see how even a semi proficient player would get enough out of it to warrant taking time to learn it.

But it's a free country.

 

[ps611846]

The system does work from any location. Give me a reasonable cue ball object ball position and I assure you I will find several pocket solutions for it using CTE Pro One.

Gerry, why do you respond to this guy's posts ? You think something is going to change ???

 

[JB Cases]

Seeing is believing, B.

Shots from a fixed position are nothing but trick shots. If this system is so good you could make those shots from anywhere on the table. I think it's main benefit is teaching beginners how the balls interact and cannot see how even a semi proficient player would get enough out of it to warrant taking time to learn it.

But it's a free country.

If they are trick shots then duplicate them. The reason to use a fixed position in video is to make it easier to show that CTE yields many solutions to pocket the ball from any given position.

As I said numerous times I challenged Stan on this at his house. You are under no obligation to believe me but luckily I had a witness. My friend Andi Sattler is a German player with more than 20 years of experience. He is a solid B low A player. He can run out.

Andi witnessed me setting up random shot trying to trick Stan and find places where he couldn't find solutions. Every time IF a shot was physically possible then Stan found a CTE solution that worked. Every time.

Now maybe you don't really understand what this means practically.

It means that there is a way to quickly figure out with a higher degree of accuracy the right shot line for just about every shot and bank shot known. Using just a small set of perception lines the shooter can by process of elimination zero in on the right visual to be able to get down on the shot correctly, even for shots that the shooter has never before practiced.

It means that in practice the shooter can figure out within just a few shots what the right aim is for any shot and then work on the speed and spin. Not ten shots to get it not twenty but 2 or 3. Maybe this doesn't really mean much to you but for a pool player it's huge.

As for believing Anthony...well I think it would be hard for me personally to try and whack balls in by pure feel after spending so much time and effort learning to aim with a system. Furthermore I still contend that no one, even professionals, will be able to make all these shots in the same amount of tries without a system method of aiming them, other than getting lucky to do it.

 

[Gerry Williams]

Working though the visuals provides a number of options - some are obvious - so require more experience to see.

Take the OB at centre table and CB at head spot.

With CTE Pro One I know that:

1. A Left Straight in left corner
2. C Right Straight in Right corner
3. A Right banks 1 rail back to the left corner
4. C Left banks 1 rail back to the right
5. B Right three rails to the right corner
6. B Left three rails to the left corner
7. C Left cross corner
8. A Right cross corner

Now you won't make these every time but you will be close if you stroke it good. Other variables when banking.

There are probably others.

How many shots should it take to make all 8 of those? How many misses are expected?

Likely other solutions as well.

Gerry

 

[8pack]

Sorry don't believe you.

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You wanna argue and call me a liar.There is something seriously wrong with you.
Hopefully its just this aiming stuff that makes you go over the edge.
If not ,life is the teacher.

Have you ever thought about yoga,ballet or tap dancing?Could help release some of that stress that is shining out in your words.

Wait, I know what it is...the up coming match has put you under a lot of pressure.
These special systems you know just seem to be working to slow for you.These video producing aiming guys sure make it look easy....whats wrong with me.

Please dont give up johnny.....it takes time.You mite not have enough of that though so maybe take a few tapping dancing lessons
Who knows you mite like it and have yourself a 5th hobby.

Hobbies
1.arguing
2 know it all.
3. N SW
4.LYING
5 tap dancing.


I just found your problem...you spend to much time doing the first 4 and not enough time on your game.:thumbup:

Just kidding about the hobbies johnny....your perfect,and I hope I grow up and be just like you.

Anthony

 

[JB Cases]

You wanna argue and call me a liar.There is something seriously wrong with you.
Hopefully its just this aiming stuff that makes you go over the edge.
If not ,life is the teacher.

Have you ever thought about yoga,ballet or tap dancing?Could help release some of that stress that is shining out in your words.

Wait, I know what it is...the up coming match has put you under a lot of pressure.
These special systems you know just seem to be working to slow for you.These video producing aiming guys sure make it look easy....whats wrong with me.

Please dont give up johnny.....it takes time.You mite not have enough of that though so maybe take a few tapping dancing lessons
Who knows you mite like it and have yourself a 5th hobby.

Hobbies
1.arguing
2 know it all.
3. N SW
4.LYING
5 tap dancing.


I just found your problem...you spend to much time doing the first 4 and not enough time one your game.:thumbup:

Just kidding about the hobbies johnny....your perfect,and I hope I grow up and be just like you.

Anthony

Sorry, I just don't think you can spend years telling us you use a system and showing off how well you pocket balls and then come on here and say you made all those shots using no system.

So I guess if you think that this means I think you are lying then that's what it means.

As for my match don't sweat it buddy. Put your bet on Lou if you think I am not ready.

I hope you do grow up someday. You are a decent player and maybe you could turn into a decent person.