OB Classic to the OB Pro? Anyone

Busboy

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Has anyone done this? Was its hard too get used too the shaft or not that different? Could u tell the deflection was less? What did u like about it over the classic? What are some things u could do batter with the pro then the classic? Or did u like the classic better ect any info would be great was thinking about going too the pro thanks all!
 
What's wrong with your classic that would make you want to go to the Pro? How long have you been plying with it?
 
I play with the classic pro. Went from ob1 to ob2 to classic pro. I love it!
 
What's wrong with your classic that would make you want to go to the Pro? How long have you been plying with it?

Nothing is wrong with it I just hear that it deflects less? Also I shot with a z shaft last week and just loved how much it deflected less then my classic and I'm told that the pro is just like the z but better so I was thinking of doing the change! I've had my classic for about year.
 
Just buy the shaft if you think you want to try it.
People can post all day on here but the only thing
that really matters is what you feel about how it plays.

If you don't like it you can get a lot of your money back
by selling it, that's the only way you will really find out
how it plays (that means something) not by listening to
what others think.
 
Just buy the shaft if you think you want to try it.
People can post all day on here but the only thing
that really matters is what you feel about how it plays.

If you don't like it you can get a lot of your money back
by selling it, that's the only way you will really find out
how it plays (that means something) not by listening to
what others think.

Well see I'm trading my classic for the pro :confused:
 
Long-ish post, but I've been through this and maybe some of this will help out...

I've tried a few shafts over the years, looking for the perfect fit. Played with standard Schon shafts for 15 years - ton of deflection - before I really knew anything about LD shafts, backhand english, etc. Took 7 years off, when I started playing again a few years ago I jumped to a Z2.

After 2 years of that, and another year off due to work, I felt like I was missing something, felt that more good players were using something in the 12.5 -12.75 range, so I tried a 314-2. Couldn't quite get used to it, went back and forth. After 6 months, I decided to "force" myself to switch, so I put the Z2 in a closet and worked on stuff I was having issues with in the 314-2. There were certain shots I was stubbornly trying to make work with the 314-2 the way I did with the Z2, and it just didn't work. Now I use that style of shaft and wouldn't switch back.

Pros and cons - the Z2 / OB2 / OB Pro shafts are similar, and all have less deflection than the 314-2 / OB1 / OB Classic type shafts. Not a ton less, but it is noticeable for sure. Once of the biggest things I had to get used to is that with the smaller shafts, very little if any compensation is needed when hitting the ball at soft to medium speeds and close distances, while a little more is needed for the larger shafts. Once you add distance and/or speed, both shafts deflect, and compensations are needed with either. If you use a method for compensating, like backhand english or front hand english, the pivot points are different enough where your method may need to be changed or tweaked. That's where if you are used to something, switching may cause from issues, at least at first. Now if you stay at or near center ball, both shafts perform pretty similarly.

Personally, I like the feel of the larger shafts - actually, 12.3 - 12.5 is perfect for me, so I either use the 12.75 now or have it taken down slightly. The thinner shafts can feel a little toothpick-ish to me, and can sometimes feel like you are having to pinpoint your spot a little more. Some people don't like the stiffer more conical taper (I don't mind). Don't let anyone tell you that you can do certain things with one vs. the other - neither is more or less accurate, center ball is still center ball, maximum spin is still maximum spin. I can execute all spin, stroke, etc. shots with either shaft the same.

Visually because the tip is smaller, people think you have to be more accurate with the Z2 type shafts, or you can get more spin. While you can technically get an extra mm or so closer to the edge of the ball with a smaller shaft, the miscue limit on the CB remains the same. I find that again visually people sometimes feel more comfortable using the smaller shafts for maximum spin since the side of the tip, which is actually making contact with the CB, is closer to the center of the tip.


All that being said, I can run racks with either, and typically have my old OB2 shaft handy in my bag as a backup for now, until I can get a second shaft of the one I'm playing with. I just ordered a OB Classic to replace my failing 314-2, if I like the feel and performance will probably just stick with that and eventually order another one. It's really personal preference, though. I learned not to try and conform to something because someone else is doing it, or some marketing hype says something, etc. Just like with tennis, golf, etc., find something you like that feels good and performs well, learn to use it and stick with it. It's the archer, not the arrow...

Scott
 
Long-ish post, but I've been through this and maybe some of this will help out...

I've tried a few shafts over the years, looking for the perfect fit. Played with standard Schon shafts for 15 years - ton of deflection - before I really knew anything about LD shafts, backhand english, etc. Took 7 years off, when I started playing again a few years ago I jumped to a Z2.

After 2 years of that, and another year off due to work, I felt like I was missing something, felt that more good players were using something in the 12.5 -12.75 range, so I tried a 314-2. Couldn't quite get used to it, went back and forth. After 6 months, I decided to "force" myself to switch, so I put the Z2 in a closet and worked on stuff I was having issues with in the 314-2. There were certain shots I was stubbornly trying to make work with the 314-2 the way I did with the Z2, and it just didn't work. Now I use that style of shaft and wouldn't switch back.

Pros and cons - the Z2 / OB2 / OB Pro shafts are similar, and all have less deflection than the 314-2 / OB1 / OB Classic type shafts. Not a ton less, but it is noticeable for sure. Once of the biggest things I had to get used to is that with the smaller shafts, very little if any compensation is needed when hitting the ball at soft to medium speeds and close distances, while a little more is needed for the larger shafts. Once you add distance and/or speed, both shafts deflect, and compensations are needed with either. If you use a method for compensating, like backhand english or front hand english, the pivot points are different enough where your method may need to be changed or tweaked. That's where if you are used to something, switching may cause from issues, at least at first. Now if you stay at or near center ball, both shafts perform pretty similarly.

Personally, I like the feel of the larger shafts - actually, 12.3 - 12.5 is perfect for me, so I either use the 12.75 now or have it taken down slightly. The thinner shafts can feel a little toothpick-ish to me, and can sometimes feel like you are having to pinpoint your spot a little more. Some people don't like the stiffer more conical taper (I don't mind). Don't let anyone tell you that you can do certain things with one vs. the other - neither is more or less accurate, center ball is still center ball, maximum spin is still maximum spin. I can execute all spin, stroke, etc. shots with either shaft the same.

Visually because the tip is smaller, people think you have to be more accurate with the Z2 type shafts, or you can get more spin. While you can technically get an extra mm or so closer to the edge of the ball with a smaller shaft, the miscue limit on the CB remains the same. I find that again visually people sometimes feel more comfortable using the smaller shafts for maximum spin since the side of the tip, which is actually making contact with the CB, is closer to the center of the tip.


All that being said, I can run racks with either, and typically have my old OB2 shaft handy in my bag as a backup for now, until I can get a second shaft of the one I'm playing with. I just ordered a OB Classic to replace my failing 314-2, if I like the feel and performance will probably just stick with that and eventually order another one. It's really personal preference, though. I learned not to try and conform to something because someone else is doing it, or some marketing hype says something, etc. Just like with tennis, golf, etc., find something you like that feels good and performs well, learn to use it and stick with it. It's the archer, not the arrow...

Scott

Thanks for ur post :thumbup:
 
Long-ish post, but I've been through this and maybe some of this will help out...

I've tried a few shafts over the years, looking for the perfect fit. Played with standard Schon shafts for 15 years - ton of deflection - before I really knew anything about LD shafts, backhand english, etc. Took 7 years off, when I started playing again a few years ago I jumped to a Z2.

After 2 years of that, and another year off due to work, I felt like I was missing something, felt that more good players were using something in the 12.5 -12.75 range, so I tried a 314-2. Couldn't quite get used to it, went back and forth. After 6 months, I decided to "force" myself to switch, so I put the Z2 in a closet and worked on stuff I was having issues with in the 314-2. There were certain shots I was stubbornly trying to make work with the 314-2 the way I did with the Z2, and it just didn't work. Now I use that style of shaft and wouldn't switch back.

Pros and cons - the Z2 / OB2 / OB Pro shafts are similar, and all have less deflection than the 314-2 / OB1 / OB Classic type shafts. Not a ton less, but it is noticeable for sure. Once of the biggest things I had to get used to is that with the smaller shafts, very little if any compensation is needed when hitting the ball at soft to medium speeds and close distances, while a little more is needed for the larger shafts. Once you add distance and/or speed, both shafts deflect, and compensations are needed with either. If you use a method for compensating, like backhand english or front hand english, the pivot points are different enough where your method may need to be changed or tweaked. That's where if you are used to something, switching may cause from issues, at least at first. Now if you stay at or near center ball, both shafts perform pretty similarly.

Personally, I like the feel of the larger shafts - actually, 12.3 - 12.5 is perfect for me, so I either use the 12.75 now or have it taken down slightly. The thinner shafts can feel a little toothpick-ish to me, and can sometimes feel like you are having to pinpoint your spot a little more. Some people don't like the stiffer more conical taper (I don't mind). Don't let anyone tell you that you can do certain things with one vs. the other - neither is more or less accurate, center ball is still center ball, maximum spin is still maximum spin. I can execute all spin, stroke, etc. shots with either shaft the same.

Visually because the tip is smaller, people think you have to be more accurate with the Z2 type shafts, or you can get more spin. While you can technically get an extra mm or so closer to the edge of the ball with a smaller shaft, the miscue limit on the CB remains the same. I find that again visually people sometimes feel more comfortable using the smaller shafts for maximum spin since the side of the tip, which is actually making contact with the CB, is closer to the center of the tip.


All that being said, I can run racks with either, and typically have my old OB2 shaft handy in my bag as a backup for now, until I can get a second shaft of the one I'm playing with. I just ordered a OB Classic to replace my failing 314-2, if I like the feel and performance will probably just stick with that and eventually order another one. It's really personal preference, though. I learned not to try and conform to something because someone else is doing it, or some marketing hype says something, etc. Just like with tennis, golf, etc., find something you like that feels good and performs well, learn to use it and stick with it. It's the archer, not the arrow...

Scott

Pretty solid write up... I will add 1 caveat to the discussion... The smaller shaft makes it easier to transition bridges for some players... I struggle to use the pinoy/euro bridge on the larger shafts but have no problem using it with the Pro.... The bridge I am talking abut is where the loop is formed by the pointer finger riding on the back of the middle finger... It has more contact spots and is more solid than the traditional closed bridge formed by making the OK sign and dropping the middle finger straight down.....

Chris
 
Nothing is wrong with it I just hear that it deflects less? Also I shot with a z shaft last week and just loved how much it deflected less then my classic and I'm told that the pro is just like the z but better so I was thinking of doing the change! I've had my classic for about year.




In my experience the z deflects quite a bit less than the ob pro.
If you like the z stay with it. It's an awesome shaft.
 
IMO, the z2 has a hollow soft hit compared to the ob classic pro. The hit is way stiffer and more solid and I tend to spin the ball (when using left and right hand english) a lot more with my classic pro.

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The cue I bought from a friend came with an OB-2. The ferrule was cracked so I sent it back to OB for repair. UPS lost the package so I bought a Pro with the insurance money. I feel the deflection properties are equal (very low deflection) but the hit on the Pro feels much better to me. But a little unrelated advice. You can only read so many reviews and get so many opinions. Sometimes you just have to make a decision and pull the trigger. I love my OB shaft and their customer service, but you can't go wrong either way. I only say that because this is like the 2nd thread you've posted on more or less the same topic.
 
I have both and can play with them interchangeably. There is literally zero adjustment for me. Although I will say that if your cue action isn't as exact, the smaller diameter will punish you more for your mistake, in my opinion.
 
I have both and can play with them interchangeably. There is literally zero adjustment for me. Although I will say that if your cue action isn't as exact, the smaller diameter will punish you more for your mistake, in my opinion.

punish u how?
 
This may be all in my head, but here's what I see....

Let's say I need to draw straight back, center ball/no English, but I strike slightly to the left or right of center... it seems to throw the object ball more than if I were to make the same mistake with the larger diameter shaft. The larger Classic shaft seems to be more forgiving in that respect.

Basically a long way of saying that if you're using a smaller diameter shaft, it requires more precise cueing, in my experience. I'm also playing on 3 7/8" pockets though, so a ball that might still fall on bigger pockets will not fall where I play, so that little variance can make a big difference in whether I run out or rattle.
 
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