Do you have to play on American soil to determine who is world class?
You're sounding awfully like all those that attack you for conducting your business away from US soil...
Lol, moron alert
Gareth Potts vs SVB.. who wins?
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Lol, moron alert
Screw your head back on
All the people you listed are European.
Can you name just three or four?
Please? Anyone???
So, not to get completely off topic here...but ok, yeah I am. lol
Anyways, Wikipedia is actually more reliable than a lot of people think.
In a study performed by Nature back in 2006 regarding scientific related entries, they found only slightly more mistakes per entry than in Encyclopedia Britannica.
http://www.u.arizona.edu/~trevors/nature_15dec2005_wikipedia.pdf
And a more recent study performed at the University of Oxford found similar results with their datasets.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/EPIC_Oxford_report.pdf
While it's true that it is Open Source, so anyone can contribute, Wikipedia does have recognized experts that are supposed review entries, edit accordingly and verify that the information provided is sited.
Admittedly most Universities still won't allow you to site Wikipedia itself, at least not in any sort of meaningful way in a research paper, but the sources sited at the bottom of each entry often can be.
Umm...ok, no offense, but this post is just kind of dumb.
Being World Class has nothing to do with being World Champion.
If you win a large tournament, with a large international field and lots of World Class players, then in my opinion you're a World Champion. I don't care what they call the tournament, or who did or didn't sanction it.
I would also add, that just because someone calls a tournament a World Championship, it doesn't actually make the winner worthy of the title.
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But do they have citizenship in the US?
lol
If that's what qualifies as world class players you're living in a dream world. Posting a list like that makes me think you know you're losing the argument.
And as I have such a boring life, humour me, John. Name ten world class American players. Name five, even. Just for fun
.I don't think they do, but even if they did would you really want to class them as world class American players?
They all came up through other countries, plied their trade in other countries and represent other countries on the international stage. Personally, I'd rather say there were no world class Americans than try to claim European players as American.
Step away from the keyboard. Do it. Do it now.
Also, consider carefully before consuming any more of your Granny's prescription medicine.
lol
If that's what qualifies as world class players you're living in a dream world. Posting a list like that makes me think you know you're losing the argument.
And as I have such a boring life, humour me, John. Name ten world class American players. Name five, even. Just for fun
Rodney Morris, Johnny Archer, Dennis Hatch, Oscar Dominguez, John Schmidt.
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Really???????????????????????????
Yes. Really. You know like really really.
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I'm reminded of the old saying..
"Don't wrestle with pigs, you both get dirty, and he likes it"
"Don't wrestle with pigs, you both get dirty, and he likes it"
And I am reminded that you don't have to be smart to type on forums. Saying the usa has no world class players outside of svb is not smart.
Ask the actual players on the WPA rankings how they like facing the players you don't consider to be world class.
They have a very different opinion than you do.
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Just curious.
This is all my opinion, just like you and Saku have your own opinions, but:
World Class has nothing to do with winning the World 9-ball Championships. I will agree with John, when he mentioned the US Open being a World Class event. It is and it always has been. Now that isn't to say that such events as the Japan Open or the World Championships are not World Class, but the point I'm trying to convey is that both of you are thinking like children fighting over who is right; You both think that the US is inferior in every way to everything European.
World Class is not what you two believe it is.
1. Ranking among the foremost in the world; of an international standard of excellence; of the highest order: a world-class figure skater.
1. ranked among the world's best; of the highest caliber: a world-class orchestra.
If you don't believe that Shane and the others are not World Class and you don't believe that such events as the US Open, USBTC, Derby City, and many others are not World Class, well then you need to deflate that big British ego with a pint of bitter and relax.
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This thread was originally started to ask what everyone's opinions were about if Shane and Potts played, what would happen. Then you two jumped in to say Potts would win it all, and that's fine. We will never see this match happen, because: A) It would be an exhibition B) Exhibition matches are not competition.
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Really?
I think they are more likely to say "I hope I get that old has been XXXXX from the USA than one of the World Class Phillipinos or World Class Europeans"
Nobody said those things. We (I) simply asked for a list of world class US players and have not yet been furnished with one.
I never said that in red nor anything remotely like it - please stop making things up as you go along.
There are no world class Filipinos except a very few who have won WPA world titles by your logic.
Same thing with the Europeans. Most of them have no world titles so according to your reasoning they are are also not world class.
Every person who won the US Open is a world class player. More Americans have done that than any other nationalities.