Lou wants more

The stream was flawless on my phone last night. I never had any desire to play one pocket however, after watching last night I think my opinion of the game has changed. I saw a lot of balls being rattled in the pockets. I know it was probbly mentioned during the stream but what is the size of the pockets you were playing on last night?
 
The stream was flawless on my phone last night. I never had any desire to play one pocket however, after watching last night I think my opinion of the game has changed. I saw a lot of balls being rattled in the pockets. I know it was probbly mentioned during the stream but what is the size of the pockets you were playing on last night?

4.5 straight cut deep shelf. It is tough game mentally and physically.

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The stream was flawless on my phone last night. I never had any desire to play one pocket however, after watching last night I think my opinion of the game has changed. I saw a lot of balls being rattled in the pockets. I know it was probbly mentioned during the stream but what is the size of the pockets you were playing on last night?

4.5" but the angles are more parallel with deep shelves. Not the normal setup for this particular table (the Aramith Arena table at Sandcastle)

Freddie <~~~ uh huh
 
Guys don't sweat Wilson's comments. He has earned the right to knock me because I have knocked how he he handles the moderator position plenty of times. Lou brought two of the beneficiaries of the unfair moderation with him. Eric Hu who has never been banned for his harassment of anyone and Mike LaLumiere who got away with defamation for years on AZB.

It is interesting to know that Mike is Lou's backer. I think if I had another $200,000 to bet we could probably get a corporation lined up for the whole amount against me.

Dave thinks that this is somehow just deserts if I lose. Not at all. Its me stepping to the table against bullies which is what Eric Hu, Mike LaLumiere and Lou Figueroa have been.

I am giving it everything I can and if it is enough then great and if not then not.

More than Wilson has ever done for this forum. If he did his job properly then this match we would not have ever been made.



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At the end I the day JB. Win or lose you have showed a pile of heart thus far. I stayed up past my bedtime to watch and was rooting, as usual for the underdog. I'd like to see you guys play again with less adrenaline pumping the first few games.



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I really enjoyed the match last night. I couldn't watch the first couple as closely as I'd like (I had my phone streaming it on my desk next to me while I worked), but was glued to the rest of it. There were definitely nerves or something going on, because the whole match changed when it got to 6-3. I think they got settled in at that point.

John showed a ton of heart, great moves, and the ability to really come with a shot when it was necessary. On the other hand, he was way too impatient, took too many risks, and his stroke fell apart when he tried to hit something hard (and he tried to hit way too many shots hard). I was particularly impressed with the way he turned around Lou's breaks. Lou would break, John would take a shot and turn the whole table around, and it would look like John had just broken the balls. His play was erratic, though - it was either absolutely brilliant or "oh god why did he do that?" awful, and not really anything in between.

Lou had a ton of patience, didn't try to do too much, and was extremely consistent with his shotmaking (as long as he wasn't looking at a long, straight-in down the rail. Granted, one of those was right after his backer had fallen off his chair, but he'd dogged another one earlier when it was a game winner). His play all night was consistently solid, but not spectacular. I didn't see any of John's flashes of brilliance, but he didn't show many of John's bad decisions, either. He played a conservative game, which really helped him against an opponent who was anything but.

It's a really interesting match because they're total opposites in terms of strengths and weaknesses. I had a blast sweating it.

8-6 in a race to 9 is hard to fade, but I think if John can learn from yesterday's experience, he still has a very good shot to take it. Most of his issues were quick fix kinds of problems - shoot softer, take what the table gives you instead of trying to run out, stop taking a swing at shots that sell out, and generally play more defensively/conservatively. He needs to protect the cue ball first and not take a shot if it doesn't. I'd like to see him be more careful with his two rail banks (several of them were more like three rails to Lou's pocket) and control his object ball speed better on the long one rails. I agreed with the commentator who said that John has the better endgame, and he seemed to out think his opponent.

Lou will definitely take it if John keeps playing risky pool. However, if John comes with the patience and mental game today that was missing yesterday, I don't think there are any quick changes Lou can make to improve his end of this. If I wasn't already at my max bet on this match, I'd be pretty tempted to put more on John today while you can get some pretty decent odds on him - he seems like a smart man who will learn from his mistakes once he's had some time away from the table to consider them.

We saw two Johns last night, and one of them is a pretty decent one pocket player who could win 3 in a row against Lou. The other's a banger who's likely to lose every game. This is all going to come down to which John shows up tonight.
 
It is a big deal because he is a moderator. That should be easy to understand. If Barton calls him out, sure, put him in his place. But following him around, taking cheap shots? That is not appropriate for a moderator, and I've never seen it in any other forum.

I've seen it plenty. Moderators can participate in the forum community while still staying impartial in matter relating to bannings, infractions, general behaviour, etc.

From what I've seen his comments amount to gentle ribbing / fun making. Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion.
 
CTE pulled my ass out of the fire in manyvofcthe games especially with crucial tough banks at the end of the game.

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I don't quite get something about you, John. You obviously care about improving your game, and you've obviously put the work in leading into this match, travelling around, taking lessons, etc. Why oh why haven't you fixed that stroke of yours?

If you put even half as much effort into that as you do into aiming (of all things), you'd be a better player for it.
 
English footy sites

I always knew you English were a Kinky lot. And to think that I still have ancestors there.

Some of my Linage, Pomeroy, goes back a few hundred to France.

Wonder what those guys are into. Ah, the English probably schooled them.
 
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I don't quite get something about you, John. You obviously care about improving your game, and you've obviously put the work in leading into this match, travelling around, taking lessons, etc. Why oh why haven't you fixed that stroke of yours?

If you put even half as much effort into that as you do into aiming (of all things), you'd be a better player for it.

This is not a fresh line of inquiry.
 
I really enjoyed the match last night. I couldn't watch the first couple as closely as I'd like (I had my phone streaming it on my desk next to me while I worked), but was glued to the rest of it. There were definitely nerves or something going on, because the whole match changed when it got to 6-3. I think they got settled in at that point.

John showed a ton of heart, great moves, and the ability to really come with a shot when it was necessary. On the other hand, he was way too impatient, took too many risks, and his stroke fell apart when he tried to hit something hard (and he tried to hit way too many shots hard). I was particularly impressed with the way he turned around Lou's breaks. Lou would break, John would take a shot and turn the whole table around, and it would look like John had just broken the balls. His play was erratic, though - it was either absolutely brilliant or "oh god why did he do that?" awful, and not really anything in between.

Lou had a ton of patience, didn't try to do too much, and was extremely consistent with his shotmaking (as long as he wasn't looking at a long, straight-in down the rail. Granted, one of those was right after his backer had fallen off his chair, but he'd dogged another one earlier when it was a game winner). His play all night was consistently solid, but not spectacular. I didn't see any of John's flashes of brilliance, but he didn't show many of John's bad decisions, either. He played a conservative game, which really helped him against an opponent who was anything but.

It's a really interesting match because they're total opposites in terms of strengths and weaknesses. I had a blast sweating it.

8-6 in a race to 9 is hard to fade, but I think if John can learn from yesterday's experience, he still has a very good shot to take it. Most of his issues were quick fix kinds of problems - shoot softer, take what the table gives you instead of trying to run out, stop taking a swing at shots that sell out, and generally play more defensively/conservatively. He needs to protect the cue ball first and not take a shot if it doesn't. I'd like to see him be more careful with his two rail banks (several of them were more like three rails to Lou's pocket) and control his object ball speed better on the long one rails. I agreed with the commentator who said that John has the better endgame, and he seemed to out think his opponent.

Lou will definitely take it if John keeps playing risky pool. However, if John comes with the patience and mental game today that was missing yesterday, I don't think there are any quick changes Lou can make to improve his end of this. If I wasn't already at my max bet on this match, I'd be pretty tempted to put more on John today while you can get some pretty decent odds on him - he seems like a smart man who will learn from his mistakes once he's had some time away from the table to consider them.

We saw two Johns last night, and one of them is a pretty decent one pocket player who could win 3 in a row against Lou. The other's a banger who's likely to lose every game. This is all going to come down to which John shows up tonight.
Wow I feel like I just read a Sports Illustrated piece on this match. Good writing. :thumbup:
 
Regardless of the outcome, it's a much closer race than I expected after watching the first 2 games. Lou looked to be in total control but JB did battle back and make some nice shots.

Both players missed plenty of shots that you just have to make, that's 1P. Hell, it's a tough game, especially mentally.

I hope they do get to the hill and JB takes it off, I however could not bet that way. I think Lou is the better player but like the heart of JB. Would love to see JB come with 3 in a row, only time will tell.

Good luck JB, slow down, stop popping up and play smart. You can do this!
 
Gerry is correct. As a moderator, you must put personal feelings aside. John is NOT without guilt, but that doesn't give Wilson the right to make personal attacks. He should just stray from posting, and if/when someone reports one of John's posts, then he can act accordingly.

That is fantasy land dreaming right there. I have never been to a board on the net where a mod had to be pc to a guy he didn't like.
 
One other thing that nobody's mentioned yet - for the first two games where John played horribly, he had a guy who had just threatened him standing over his shoulder trying to intimidate him. After they kicked that guy out, the score was 6-6 for the rest of the match. I think those two games made the matchup look a little different than it actually is, because they're actually pretty even when John's not being sharked.
 
4.5 straight cut deep shelf. It is tough game mentally and physically.

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Not sure if some on here don't know about the deep shelf but it makes a huge difference. I must say this match has been very entertaining ,hate too see either one of you lose. Good luck to both of you today.
 
Out of interest, what was the actual threat that was made. I've seen this mentioned a few times, so am wondering exactly what words were exchanged.


I heard the commentators mentioned it briefly but nothing else was said


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Out of interest, what was the actual threat that was made. I've seen this mentioned a few times, so am wondering exactly what words were exchanged.

No idea, I just heard about it from the commentators. They mentioned it a few times and then later on said that John got a lot better when the guy got kicked out after the second game. Some people talked about it on here last night, but they just identified the guy - no comment on what was said or what the back story was that would make this guy want to start that kind of crap. As I understand it, he's providing a piece of Lou's 10k and he's doing it because he has some kind of beef with Barton.
 
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