50 greatest of all time

Chess_Jerk said:
I edited my top 10 :-). This is a great thread

Top 10 IMO

1. Efren Reyes
2. Buddy Hall
3. Earl Strickland
4. Nick Varner
5 Willie Mosconi
6. Johnny Archer
7. Mike Sigel
8. Willie Hoppe
9. Francisco Bustamante
10. Minnesota Fatts
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I guess I'm still not understanding the criteria.....:confused:

Soooo...how much weight did Shane and Alex need off Fatty?
..and how much weight did Harold Worst need off anybody?
 
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pt109 said:
I guess I'm still not understanding the criteria.....:confused:

Soooo...how much weight did Shane and Alex need off Fatty?
..and how much weight did Harold Worst need off anybody?
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It's a hard list to create. Try it :-) 10 was the hardest spot to fill for me lol. Fats made based off being an ambassador of the game.
 
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damn, i forgot fats, he gets an honor mention as the greatest personality and best bettor of all time. His talent was not up to par with some of his time, but his mind was sharper than a straight razor.
 
You could narrow it down even further such as one pocket, banks, rotation and straight pool and the few guys that fall into all of those would be a good start for the top spots. Its hard to leave out the best bank pool players just because there are a ton of guys out there that would beat them playing 9 or 10 ball.
 
I love seeing rankings lists. I give anybody credit for putting theirs out there. That being said a criteria must be named and implemented. Obviously if all around was emphasized than efren would be higher. Tournament success appears to be valued. Would be interesting to see the whole article.
 
$TAKE HOR$E said:
You could narrow it down even further such as one pocket, banks, rotation and straight pool and the few guys that fall into all of those would be a good start for the top spots. Its hard to leave out the best bank pool players just because there are a ton of guys out there that would beat them playing 9 or 10 ball.
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ummmm, no. Not being a dick, just its really difficult to do, and the best one pocket players of all time are unknowns, bank pool too. this is a general poll.
 
Chess_Jerk said:
It's a hard list to create. Try it :-) 10 was the hardest spot to fill for me lol. Fats made based off being an ambassador of the game.
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Like I said....criteria

Ronny Allen won't make this list...and he can give serious weight to a bunch of them.

The title does say '50 GREATEST OF ALL TIME'

If it's to be a Hall of Fame for greatest contributions, then I don't mind
just going with the BCA HOF
 
pt109 said:
Like I said....criteria

Ronny Allen won't make this list...and he can give serious weight to a bunch of them.

The title does say '50 GREATEST OF ALL TIME'

If it's to be a Hall of Fame for greatest contributions, then I don't mind
just going with the BCA HOF
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I bet youre fun at parties, geez guy, its just a fun thing to do.
 
Remove Billiard Players please..

trinacria said:
this is not my list, im starting a new one, taking out 3cushion players.
NEW POLL ON MAIN FORUM, MULTIPLE CHOICES

1999, billiards digest gave us the best 50 of the century. #1 was a carom champion, willie hoppe. I play pool, most of us in this country do, that means 15 colored balls, a white ball and six pockets, the game is a variation of any of that, 9,8, 10, 14.1, you get the picture. and although willie was peobably the greatest of all time in his game, I want to make it about pool and include some of todays talent. someone probably already did this, but I haven't seen it. Anyone willing to start a poll, which I have no clue how to do, is much appreciated. heres the original:
truth be told, no clue who some of these are.
give me some names I should include, ill start a poll
50. Jersey Red
49. Allen Gilbert
48. Jeanette Lee
47. Jimmy Moore
46. Dorothy Wise
45. Otto Reiselt
44. Babe Cranfield
43. Lou Butera
42. John Horgan
41. Cisero Murphy
40. Jerome Keogh
39. Allen Hopkins
38. Dallas West
37. Jim Rempe
36. George Sutton
35. Charlie Peterson
34. Robert Cannefax
33. Bennie Allen
32. Ray Martin
31. Ruth McGinnis
30. Johnny Archer
29. Efren Reyes
28. Loree Jon Jones
27. Buddy Hall
26. Larry Johnson (Boston Shorty)
25. Eddie Taylor
24. Jake Shaefer
23. Thomas Hueston
22. Andrew Ponzi
21. Welker Cochran
20. Erwin Rudolph
19. Harold Worst
18. Allison Fisher
17. Earl Strickland
16. Joe Balsis
15. Jean Balukas
14. Nick Varner
13. Johnny Layton
12. Jake Shaefer Jr.
11. Sang Lee
10. Jimmy Caras
9. Luther Lassiter
8. Irving Crane
7. Frank Taberski
6. Steve Mizerak
5. Mike Sigel
4. Alfredo De Oro
3. Ralph Greenleaf
2. Willie Mosconi
1. Willie Hoppe
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There are a lot of 3 cushion and Billiard players on that list, 1999, Billiards Digest.:confused:
 
trinacria said:
I bet youre fun at parties, geez guy, its just a fun thing to do.
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As Jack Lemmon once said to Walter Mathau...
..."I'm the KING of fun."

Here's my list of the ten greatest English Billiard ever

1- Walter Lindrum
2- Walter Lindrum
3- Walter Lindrum
4- Walter Lindrum
5- Walter Lindrum
6- Walter Lindrum
7- Walter Lindrum
8- Walter Lindrum
9- Walter Lindrum
10- Walter Lindrum
 
trinacria said:
ummmm, no. Not being a dick, just its really difficult to do, and the best one pocket players of all time are unknowns, bank pool too. this is a general poll.
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1 Efren
2 Shane
3 Alex
4 Nick
5 Mosconi
6 Earl
7 Dennis
8 Buddy I spose...except Appleton or Busty would probably have beat him
9 Schmidt
10 Jack Cooney

No particular order :thumbup:
 
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$TAKE HOR$E said:
1 Efren
2 Shane
3 Alex
4 Nick
5 Mosconi
6 Earl
7 Dennis
8 Buddy I spose...except Appleton or Busty would probably have beat him
9 Schmidt
10 Jack Cooney

No particular order :thumbup:
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I'm having trouble with any 1-pocket list that doesn't have Ronnie Allen's name on it.
 
AtLarge said:
Here's another thread about the 1999 Billiards Digest list: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=241035
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And they didn't include snooker or English billiards (and likely some others) players for reasons bizarre enough to be left unexplained. Fair enough, the new list only includes pool players. Needs criteria though - are we talking tournament players or are we talking myths and legends as well?
 
Rudolph Walderon

Minnesota fats was a pompous ass who was a legend in his own mind and who stole the legend of a fictional character. ..

Jaden
 
pt109 said:
I'm having trouble with any 1-pocket list that doesn't have Ronnie Allen's name on it.
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Your right, thats what I was saying earlier. Its easier to make any kind of top player list what have you if you do it by different aspects of the game such as one pocket, rotation, banks, straight pool and so on. That list there is just one I thought up of good players, not necessarily a one pocket list.
 
$TAKE HOR$E said:
Your right, thats what I was saying earlier. Its easier to make any kind of top player list what have you if you do it by different aspects of the game such as one pocket, rotation, banks, straight pool and so on. That list there is just one I thought up of good players, not necessarily a one pocket list.
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Start a one pocket poll. come up with ten names. the poll has tournament players with a paper trail, they can be justified. Im certain there are one pocket players, both past and present, that won thousands upon thousands of dollars and only a few people were there to see it. Its hard to justify a hustlers game, ronnie allen is legendary, but thats all I know.
 
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