Seaglass505 shafted me. Buyer's beware! - Advised by ToomnyQs to re-post it here

Cotter999

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Most of you on here probably dont know me because you never see me in here posting. I like to come on here and read up on what I am missing, or look for my next cue. I have bought my Tim Scruggs on this sight (he didnt know howto leave feed back) and my Pat Diviney. Absolutely no issues with either. However, my last transaction with Seaglass505 has put a bad taste in my mouth and will make it hard for me to deal on here anymore. If you look on his history, you will see my Meucci Day gent that I had listed here a few months back. He wanted to make a trade. We agreed on a deal that included 3 joss cues with 2 shafts a piece, an OB shaft, and a jump stick. All cues were said to roll straight seperate and together. I sent my Day Agent that was in perfect condition, prolly 98-99%. What I got in the mail from him blew me away. He sent 3 butts and 1 shaft along with the ump stick and the OB! The Joss shaft has a ferrale that was too big for it and the shaft was warped. One of the butts has a .24 inch bow in the middle of the butt and the third one wasnt even one the cues we agreed on. So all in all He sent one wrong cue, one badly bent butt, one badly warped shaft, and missing 5 shafts. I send a message back to Seaglass stating that I am going to send these back to him and I want me Meucci back. He lies to me telling me that he has is tore apart to put a new wrap on it for his buyer. Thats when I noticed it listed on here still in perfect condition. I tell him I am sending the package back. He says he will deny it and that I got a good deal. He tells me what these cues book out at. Nobody in their right mind will buy these cues in the condition they are in.
This man promised one thing and did another. He promised a product and instead of following through with the cues we agreed on, he ended up digging junk out of his closet to give me. He has since sent 2 more shafts to me that are very beat up and are of no use to me in the condition they were in. They all will need new ferrales and tips before they will be playable. I have all emails, pictures, and corispondance of what was promised if needed. I hate to do this on here. I have never once done this on a forum but this is ridiculous. That is not the right way to do business. I have over 160 transactions on Ebay and a lot of which are pool cues. I dont have any negative of neutral feedback.
I apologize for the rant, but a guy like that should have no right to be doing business in a place like this. If you cant live up to your end with what you promise, go somewhere else.
By the way, after 2 weeks of trying to get a hold of Seaglass, he said he will talk to me about my Meucci after the weekend on Monday because he was with his kids. I thought that was fine. Monday became Tuesday. Then I see on here that it was posted that he sold out. He sold it knowing full well that he hasnt lived up to his end of the deal. That is a thief in my book.
 
WOW!
If that is true, then he needs to make it right. But, let's see what he has to say about this.
Sorry to hear that you had to go through this.
 
there are lots of good guys on az to deal with. Don't think bad about forums because of one bad deal

Seaglass has to make it right if everything you are saying is correct, otherwise, I guarantee you, he is not gonna make a single deal on az
 
He wasnt willing to make it right and send my cue back after sending me horrible product, wrong cue, and a warped butt. He lied about having my Meucci tore apart and sold. He lied about Meucci offering a G-10 Meucci for my day agent when he was at the show in NJ. I know because my buddy Chris Lawson ran the booth in NJ for Meucci and said it never came up in conversation. Only after I threatened to take to the the people of AZ that Seaglass decided to send some shafts. I just received them and they are shit. I will need to cut the ferrules off to straighten them. Then turn them down to get rid of the pots in them. Not to mention he is still 3 shafts short from what he promissed to begin with.
 
I recently had a bad experience with this guy, also. He wanted to buy a Q that I had, BUT HAD NO MONEY. He dicked around for 2 weeks trying to get the cash, all of the time telling me he had it. This deal smelled like a dead fish & I backed out. I WILL NEVER DO ANY BUSINESS WITH HIM...JER
 
Im sorry for your bad experience..

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This is sad to hear.. But glad it has been brought to everyone's attention since he has many listings here... Sure sounds like a buyer beware when it comes to this guy...
 
I always thought he was a great AZer. He's always been there to help me out. It's too bad this had to happen. Really unexpected.
 
problems

With out going into details...I would just say that there are a few newbies with a lot of activity lately and buyers beware. Seems they come and they go and don't last long. Sorry to hear all this.
 
The guy was made 5 posts in a row and bumped them all at the same time. That should tell you all you need to know about the guy. No respect for others.
 
With out going into details...I would just say that there are a few newbies with a lot of activity lately and buyers beware. Seems they come and they go and don't last long. Sorry to hear all this.


Good advice Saint, especially for newbie buyers.
Most people would try to defend themselves in a situation like this, which makes me wonder who seaglass really is.
Business as usual with this joker, so until something is settled, I agree, buyer beware of seaglass.
 
I don't do much business on here but I do often look at stuff for sale and read posts. I'm an honest person and when I have purchased stuff I instantly pay. I have thought about trading stuff on here but am to worried about someone else not coming through on their end. Sad to hear about others getting burned all the time.
 
I had a weird experience with him also. He called me about a case. He said it was something called an instroke exotics series. But anyway I told him he would have to text me and he just started rambling on about how much he knew about the industry and what a great guy he was . I told him again I had to get off the phone and he just kept on talking. I finally had to get half way shitty to get him off the phone. Then I get blew up with text. I knew then I wanted nothing to do with this guy.
 
Enough

I have had enough Of the bad mouthing. I have been on az since January and have always treated people fair and respectful As far as the person that gave me a negative response I sent you 3 cues and a jump cue 6 shafts all joss for one Meucci And now other people are chiming in giving me a bad name. I could call so many people out on here it's not funny Tell you what look at my recent posting where I gave a case away And to the person with the so called back deal I will send you something of greater value then what you originally sent me. And keep all that I've send you. I don't anyone giving anything away on this site. Except negative criticism. as far as the gentleman with the George cue I offered paypal , personal check , and credit card per last conversation Bunch of back stabbers the lot of you. Can't play pool , have dementia . And nothing better to do with your time then rat like school girls. Grow up I have always been fair and upstanding and always try to make things right. So Mr. Colter I have your address and I will send you a brand new cue with absolutely no charge an obligation. Let's see who else will do that. Put your money where your mouth is. I will no longer discuss this matter.
 
/\ that sounds like the definition of stand up to me. I don't know either party but that seems fair!
 
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