Is Touch Of Inside "the teacher"

[CJ Wiley]

TOI even works really well in humid conditions

Yes, the Touch of Inside style of play is best suited for regular pool room conditions. I actually like playing on equipment that rolls off (slightly) and has less than steller cleanliness....the TOI works even better under these conditions (relatively speaking) because there's no need to "slow roll" shots that are effected more by negative conditions.

TOI even works really well in humid conditions. I lived in Florida for a couple of years and made a significant impression using TOI back in the mid to late 80s.....Toby Sweet beat me once in his pool room, but refused to play again (the same way) a few weeks later. Toby played a very consistent "no spin" game as well.

Unless the balls are really clean, I use TOI on the thinner cuts to avoid the CIT. When the balls get a little dirty, the super thin cuts won't go with center ball as well. Even if I cut the "paint" off of them , they'll cling and drag off line.

Using outside on these shots is an option, but compensating for swerve and speed is a tough proposition. Jack up on the rail and they get even tougher. Using TOI is easier to figure out with fewer variables and less cue ball movement.

Best,
Mike

 

[fathomblue]

Glad to see there are more believers coming on board. It truly does work. And not only that, it allowed me to discover things about outside English that I didn't understand before.

Big props to CJ for sharing the knowledge.

 

[voiceofreason]

I have read much of this with interest and would just like to thank CJ Wiley for his knowledge and attempts to share it.

Especially in light of the articles I read on CJ's background.

It seems quite clearly that, on and off the table, he has made a success of his life in and around pool.

Fair play and good luck and thank you again..

 

[CJ Wiley]

Many players go through their life not really understanding how deflection works

That's a great point and many that commit to the TOI style for 3 hours say the same thing. Many players go through their life not really understanding how deflection and spin effect the cue ball's path AND the reaction after contact.

Since they don't understand deflection they subconsciously fear it and do whatever's necessary to avoid it.....this is human nature, and normal/natural. At the same time they're limiting their true potential and settling for a game that is sub par at best.

The way to accell at anything is to break out of the "normal" way of thinking and explore ways to expand your flexibility. Not using the inside of the cue ball takes away extensively from your potential flexibility and also from completely understanding the outside of the cue ball (where you impart "running" or "outside" english).

Using 'The Touch of Inside' makes the player discover things about their game that they could not "real eyes" any other way (as quickly). It only takes 3 hours as my video outlines to get your first "dose" of awareness that will lead to game that you may have never thought you could produce......your friends AND opponents will see the difference within 3 weeks.......'Your TOI Game Will Be Their Teacher'

Glad to see there are more believers coming on board. It truly does work. And not only that, it allowed me to discover things about outside English that I didn't understand before.

Big props to CJ for sharing the knowledge.

 

[CJ Wiley]

to outrun the negativity of the world.....grace or just plain luck?

You're certainly welcome!

I was lucky to have exceptional mentors at an early age.....it always takes positive impressions in our lives to outrun the negativity of the world.....grace or just plain luck in many cases is the deciding factor. 'The Game {of Life} is the Teacher'

I have read much of this with interest and would just like to thank CJ Wiley for his knowledge and attempts to share it.

Especially in light of the articles I read on CJ's background.

It seems quite clearly that, on and off the table, he has made a success of his life in and around pool.

Fair play and good luck and thank you again..

 

[poolpariah]

Hi CJ. So I'm new to this forum and I've been quite interested in this TOI system you developed and promote. I am wondering now do you ever use outside on any shots?

 

[HawaiianEye]

Hi CJ. So I'm new to this forum and I've been quite interested in this TOI system you developed and promote. I am wondering now do you ever use outside on any shots?

It is IMPOSSIBLE to use TOI on EVERY shot. There are MANY circumstances where you will be required to use something other than TOI in order to move the cueball to your intended location.

However, once you are back in line you can use TOI until something else is needed again.

TOI simplifies things...it doesn't do ALL the work for you!

Aloha.

 

[fathomblue]

You can actually use TOI with outside.

You line up the shot with TOI and then pivot back to center....or beyond, depending on how much you need. This actually creates backhand English and you'd be surprised as to how much of a difference that a small pivot back to center will make.

The only time that CJ doesn't use TOI is an absolute straight-in shot from a short distance.....I think. I'm sure he'll let us know.

 

[poolpariah]

Thanks for the clarification. I guess I need to learn it to truly understand it and the nuances. Most systems seem to be designed in part to increase one's feel for a type of shot or situation. I've always played by feel and never used a system. I have also hit a point where I'm not improving much - even with practice. I know I need to make a change to get to the next level so I might give TOI a try.

 

[West Point 1987]

Thanks for the clarification. I guess I need to learn it to truly understand it and the nuances. Most systems seem to be designed in part to increase one's feel for a type of shot or situation. I've always played by feel and never used a system. I have also hit a point where I'm not improving much - even with practice. I know I need to make a change to get to the next level so I might give TOI a try.

You really should give it a good try...I've played off and on for about 30 years, and was about an A player (20 years ago), but had slipped down to a mid/high C level. I was working on all aspects of my game, trying to get it back, when this came along, and thought I'd try it. One of the biggest benefits was it forced me to see how bad my stroke really was. I video'd myself, checked it with CB drills, everything, and thought I had a really good, straight stroke. Doing TOI showed me how far off I really was, and tightened that up immediately. And my game came all the way back and then some. All the other benefits of this technique will become apparent to you when the lightbulb goes on...after about 3 hours.

 

[HawaiianEye]

You really should give it a good try...I've played off and on for about 30 years, and was about an A player (20 years ago), but had slipped down to a mid/high C level. I was working on all aspects of my game, trying to get it back, when this came along, and thought I'd try it. One of the biggest benefits was it forced me to see how bad my stroke really was. I video'd myself, checked it with CB drills, everything, and thought I had a really good, straight stroke. Doing TOI showed me how far off I really was, and tightened that up immediately. And my game came all the way back and then some. All the other benefits of this technique will become apparent to you when the lightbulb goes on...after about 3 hours.

I agree with you 100%!

If you use this system and figure it out, you will know almost immediately when you do something wrong.

 

[CJ Wiley]

this is the deep philosophy behind the "Touch of Inside" system

I use the Touch of Inside location on the cue ball as if it's "Center"....then if "outside english" is required (only when changing the angle off a rail. straight in shots or slow rolling a particular shot) I simply pivot my cue back to center to put "a touch of outside" or pivot it further to impart more spin when necessary.

From my experience it's best to have a "pet shot" that you try to use as much as possible...using different shots to get "easy shots" all the time sounds good, but won't stand up to championship pressure.

It's like lagging coins to a spot, it's best to find your ideal distance and use that "stroke" every time....then you can master it....this is also true with the TOI Technique.

You have to ask your self if you want to be a "jack of all spins" or the "Master of One"......this is the deep philosophy behind the "Touch of Inside" system of play.

'The Game is the Teacher'

Hi CJ. So I'm new to this forum and I've been quite interested in this TOI system you developed and promote. I am wondering now do you ever use outside on any shots?

 

[CJ Wiley]

Over time the player that uses less variables will usually win

I actually played for 3 hours and used TOI approximately 90% of the time. The only time I don't use TOI is when I have to change an angle after contacting a rail, or when I'm straight in or have to "slow roll" a shot.

The object of playing the Touch of Inside at the highest level is for EVERY shot to be the same as far as 1) Cue Ball Targeting (inside of course) 2) Cue Speed (accelerated for a "crisp" hit) 3) Angle Creation (playing to the inside of the pocket using my '3Part Pocket System of TOI).

Over time the player that uses less variables (and has to make less decisions) will usually win....TOI has less than any other style of play, so in longer matches it gives the user an advantage. 'The Game is the TOI Teacher'

It is IMPOSSIBLE to use TOI on EVERY shot. There are MANY circumstances where you will be required to use something other than TOI in order to move the cueball to your intended location.

However, once you are back in line you can use TOI until something else is needed again.

TOI simplifies things...it doesn't do ALL the work for you!

Aloha.

 

[CJ Wiley]

NO ONE will possibly get the 'Touch of Inside' technique any other way.

We all use systems unconsciously whether we "real eyes" it or not. Walking, talking, writing, and yes, even pool requires a system to perform consistently.

Even Feel/Touch requires a system to improve. TOI is a system that reprograms the unconscious mind that processes your pool shots......it "reboots" your computer program (so to speak) so that you get a whole new perspective.

NO ONE will possibly get the 'Touch of Inside' technique any other way.....we must experience TOI to reap the benefit of the new "programming"......and such is life.

'The Game needs rebooting once in a while' ....then it can "Be the Teacher'

Thanks for the clarification. I guess I need to learn it to truly understand it and the nuances. Most systems seem to be designed in part to increase one's feel for a type of shot or situation. I've always played by feel and never used a system. I have also hit a point where I'm not improving much - even with practice. I know I need to make a change to get to the next level so I might give TOI a try.

 

[Mitchxout]

We all use systems unconsciously whether we "real eyes" it or not. Walking, talking, writing, and yes, even pool requires a system to perform consistently.

Even Feel/Touch requires a system to improve. TOI is a system that reprograms the unconscious mind that processes your pool shots......it "reboots" your computer program (so to speak) so that you get a whole new perspective.

NO ONE will possibly get the 'Touch of Inside' technique any other way.....we must experience TOI to reap the benefit of the new "programming"......and such is life.

'The Game needs rebooting once in a while' ....then it can "Be the Teacher'

Check your pm.....:thumbup:

 

[CJ Wiley]

You are in for a pleasant surprise.....let me know if you have any questions

Check your pm.....:thumbup:

Thanks, Bud, I took care of your order personally earlier today. You are in for a pleasant surprise.....let me know if you have any questions, I'm always available to help anyone interested in developing their TOI.

 

[Lesh]

Cornerman explained to me the finer points of Touch of Inside not too long ago and I promised him I would give it a couple weeks of honest effort. Well, I gave it a couple weeks and found that I would need to give it a while longer. It does help me to make balls in certain situations..... I haven't developed a truly warm and "hand down its pants" relationship just yet. It is a shot making device, but it is honestly something I have already been doing for some time now when a friend of mins showed me how to skeet a ball out sideways for position on open table shots. It is sweet, but I have failed to see its deeper riches as I am consumed with position play.

For me, position play is more about flowing through shots and dancing off rails where I have more confidence in controlling the cue. I seems to feel better when I can hit a rail with some kind of predictable speed... I feel more confident when I have a known reaction hitting the ball dead center or with a tip of top. Much safer as well in my experience. I will keep TOI in mind though and try to make it more of a pocketing machine in my game.

Thanks for all the posts everyone,

Lesh

 

[CJ Wiley]

demonstrating EXACTLY how this system can be utilized in anyone's game

You're welcome, Lesh, the one crucial factor about using TOI (or whatever you use to jump up two levels) is it requires a commitment.....you can't just "dip your toe in the water"....it takes a 3 hour dedication to "real eyes" what the touch of inside can really do.

The position play is one of the things that's enhanced because you can use the same type stroke on the majority of your shots. The cue ball is only 6 oz's, however it feels heavier when using TOI.....spin actually makes it feel lighter and the cue ball will tend to "get away from you" more often.

I wish you were close to Dallas/Ft Worth and I'd give you a free TOI LESSON to speed up your understanding of this powerful technique. I've been giving a lot of lessons lately and I'm getting more and more effective in communicating and demonstrating EXACTLY how this system can be utilized in anyone's game....and remember, 'The TOI Game is the Teacher' ....it just takes the willingness to practice the TOI principles.

Cornerman explained to me the finer points of Touch of Inside not too long ago and I promised him I would give it a couple weeks of honest effort. Well, I gave it a couple weeks and found that I would need to give it a while longer. It does help me to make balls in certain situations..... I haven't developed a truly warm and "hand down its pants" relationship just yet. It is a shot making device, but it is honestly something I have already been doing for some time now when a friend of mins showed me how to skeet a ball out sideways for position on open table shots. It is sweet, but I have failed to see its deeper riches as I am consumed with position play.

For me, position play is more about flowing through shots and dancing off rails where I have more confidence in controlling the cue. I seems to feel better when I can hit a rail with some kind of predictable speed... I feel more confident when I have a known reaction hitting the ball dead center or with a tip of top. Much safer as well in my experience. I will keep TOI in mind though and try to make it more of a pocketing machine in my game.

Thanks for all the posts everyone,

Lesh

 

[CJ Wiley]

use the "Touch of Inside" to find the solution

That's right, you can get away with poor technique with some techniques, but now with TOI...you have to "face the facts," address the facts, then use the "Touch of Inside" to find the solution that is at the root of the problem. 'The TOI Game is the Teacher'

You really should give it a good try...I've played off and on for about 30 years, and was about an A player (20 years ago), but had slipped down to a mid/high C level. I was working on all aspects of my game, trying to get it back, when this came along, and thought I'd try it. One of the biggest benefits was it forced me to see how bad my stroke really was. I video'd myself, checked it with CB drills, everything, and thought I had a really good, straight stroke. Doing TOI showed me how far off I really was, and tightened that up immediately. And my game came all the way back and then some. All the other benefits of this technique will become apparent to you when the lightbulb goes on...after about 3 hours.

 

[irock]

I think three important factors in using TOI, at least for me anyway, are, every shot you shoot feels solid and crisp, because you are hitting the cue ball almost center every time. Another is, position, it seems more simple, it seems like you don't have to use multiple rails near as much with TOI. It also seems easier to get back in stroke quicker, when you have not been playing for a while, just throw fifteen balls on the table, bang them in with TOI, and you are good to go.