Don't Be Miss-led By Sterling Steve Klapp Reviews!!

You say Cuemaker I say maker of cues. So that's how it works... No maker should start to build orphan shafts for someone if he doesn't have the butt for it. No.matter the cue. No matter if his or built by someone else. A thousand of a mm can make a huge difference...
You want perfection deal with perfectionists. ImHO Steve is as guilty as you are....he build a shaft in blind without asking you to send the butt. You trusted him to know what's he's doing....
Him guilty again (if) he didn't (try) refund you in time.
PS: I don't know the maker. I only hit once a few balls with one of his "amazing old growth" cues/shafts from a friend. I hate the hit...but that doesn't mean he builds crappy cues...

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Talked to Steve about this. He said he sent you a money order when you requested a refund.

He has the slip from it still and will go to the post office to confirm if it has been cashed or not. If it has not, he will send out another immediately. He apologized for the misunderstanding, he assumed you received it and all was well.

Yeah right,the post office lost his phone too thats why he wouldn't answer...jezz thank god for the post office,who else could he blame.
 
great...he has my buddy's jerry olivier for rewrap and refinish...and he did not respond to my pm i sent last week requesting an update. maybe this thread will give him a bit of motivation. good luck to all. hopefully he gets square with everyone

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I'm currently on my second cue and my third old growth shaft from Steve , one which is for a schön, and they all are absolutely amazing! I'm sorry if all of this is really going on but steve has always been very easy to deal with. Great guy and great product.
 
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I've known Steve since his first cue, he's always been honest and upfront with me.
I have not talked to Steve since this post about this" beware " thread started..
One thing that most people don't understand is how much leather and wood can move with changes of climates and ways it's handled or stored, I've seen pool tables slates and rails that are so warped and twisted its hard to believe but I know there is no way the factory could manufacture a slate or rail in that condition and it's obvious that the defect occurred later after it was out of the shop or hands from climate or conditions of the materials that they was unaware of. I've dealt with wood rails that have been kiln dried and cured then bolted to a flat slate for 10 years then removed to recushion in the same location that the table resided for its whole life as use of a pool table... I take the rails off for 1 day while table is being serviced and while the rails was set aside on a flat sheet metal desk/work bench the rails warp like a banana in both directions....but only one rail warped like that so how do you explain that from a matched and numbered set of rails....?
Now it's my fault that the rails warped...? I don't think so.. Shit happens and there is a fix for everything in one way or another when it comes to such simple problems.... I'm not to blame or is the table company.... I hold mother nature responsible but she is queen over all so we just have to take that and accept it happens..

Relax and take it easy , Steve will deal with your cue and fix and or repair/service your cue. Stop and think about it.....no cue makers have/keep tooling to make curved shafts/cues.
I'm not taking sides here but I think there was another way to approach the matter of your cue.




Rob.M
 
I was doing a $27 deal on here and the person posted a thread about it before contacting me. Don't believe the hype I think Steve is reliable. I'll post the $ if you think you getting scammed.
 
His work was half assed when he had my cue. The refinish was great, the Uniloc pin he put in is just as crooked as my left eye. Tip of the shaft when put together is about a half inch off the table at the high end.
 
Heads Up!

Talked to Steve about this. He said he sent you a money order when you requested a refund.

He has the slip from it still and will go to the post office to confirm if it has been cashed or not. If it has not, he will send out another immediately. He apologized for the misunderstanding, he assumed you received it and all was well.


I have NO DOG in this situation. Just to let both parties know if Steve sent a US Postal money order both parties are in for an unpleasant surprise. The US postal money order cannot be tracked instantly. Instead Steve will have to file a claim which he will have to pay for then he will have to snail mail it to an office in South Dakota where they will then begin their investigation. This could all take several weeks or even a month to accomplish. I gave up on US postal money orders after sending Dave Kikel one for $1000.00 which was lost. I then learned how completely inefficient the US postal money order system is. Dave & I never had an issue with each other and eventually the USPS found the check had never been cashed and issued me a refund. I took that to a US postal office and they refused to cash it for me saying they did not have $1000.00 on hand, LOL. I went to my bank deposited it and it eventually cleared. This all took over one month. I now use my own banks cashiers checks which can be tracked 24 / 7..... Good Luck to both parties, have some patience!
 
I've known Steve since his first cue, he's always been honest and upfront with me.
I have not talked to Steve since this post about this" beware " thread started..
One thing that most people don't understand is how much leather and wood can move with changes of climates and ways it's handled or stored, I've seen pool tables slates and rails that are so warped and twisted its hard to believe but I know there is no way the factory could manufacture a slate or rail in that condition and it's obvious that the defect occurred later after it was out of the shop or hands from climate or conditions of the materials that they was unaware of. I've dealt with wood rails that have been kiln dried and cured then bolted to a flat slate for 10 years then removed to recushion in the same location that the table resided for its whole life as use of a pool table... I take the rails off for 1 day while table is being serviced and while the rails was set aside on a flat sheet metal desk/work bench the rails warp like a banana in both directions....but only one rail warped like that so how do you explain that from a matched and numbered set of rails....?
Now it's my fault that the rails warped...? I don't think so.. Shit happens and there is a fix for everything in one way or another when it comes to such simple problems.... I'm not to blame or is the table company.... I hold mother nature responsible but she is queen over all so we just have to take that and accept it happens..

Relax and take it easy , Steve will deal with your cue and fix and or repair/service your cue. Stop and think about it.....no cue makers have/keep tooling to make curved shafts/cues.
I'm not taking sides here but I think there was another way to approach the matter of your cue.

Rob.M

According to the op it's been more than 7 months since he received a bad shaft and all promises from Steve to make it right have gone unfulfilled.

If what the op says is accurate then why tell him to "relax and take it easy"?

and where you said "there was another way to approach the matter of your cue"?, I wonder what that other way would be.

Attempts at direct contact with Steve were apparently not working.

imo, the op had no other good option but to come on here to air it out.

and for the record, I have had an eerily similar experience including delays on top of delays.

And I also had a tip switch. I ordered and paid for a Kamui black soft and when the shaft arrived, on the very first hit the tip flew off. Only because it came off was I able to see it was not a genuine Kamui, but rather it was an imposter. :mad: And, oh yeah, the shaft was warped.

The tip being an imposter was suspicious to me, to say the least, and even moreso now that I see the exact same thing happened to the op.

Steve was apologetic and was going to "get right on it" making me a replacement shaft.

Ater about 6 months and many excuses for the delays, it arrived and there are two small but deep holes in the wood right in the bridge area. Damn. This really felt like the insult on top of the injury. now twice.

When I called to tell him this news, he seemed frustrated and he said I can send it back for a refund. I haven't because I know the further runaround I'd be subjecting myself to.

I keep living and I keep learning.

Anyone who is close to Steve and cares to back him up on mine, l'll gladly send it to you.

Worth noting is that Steve doesn't personally do all of the work turned out by their shop, so maybe he just has to do a better job controlling his shop's quality. He did do a couple of refinished for me back at his old shop in IL and that work came out perfectly.

I hope they get things back in order - I think he's a good guy, maybe just overwhelmed.

best,
brian kc
 
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Just The Facts:

At or around November 1, 2013 I decided I was in the market for one of those so called old growth shafts.

I checked around for reviews and what not and found out about Steve Klapp’s Custom Cues.

After reading the main review on his web site, which made him out to be a god-like producer of old growth shafts, I decided I would give ol' Steve a try.

My Order:

One 140 Year Old Growth Shaft With A Schon Joint.
Ivory Ferrule - Upcharge Required - Of Course.
Kamui Clear Medium Tip - Upcharge Required - Of Course.

He and I were in business so I sent him A One Hundred And Ninety Dollar Check Through My Bank. No Worries Huh...WRONG.

30 days goes by and my new shaft finally arrives.

I grab my STL-13 and new shaft and head out. Very Excited I Must Say.

I put my new cue "Ol' Painless" together and rolled it across the table I was playing on.

Wouldn't You Know It - Yea! To my amazement there was a serious THUMP, THUMP, THUMP, across the table it goes.

What Nah...Really? So I looked closer only to see there was a portion of the cue sticking out on the side, at the joint, about one/sixteenth of one inch...

So I pulled it apart and reinstalled my shaft to the butt section...Yep...Same Thing.

This Cue - The Schon STL-13 Which I Bought From Mike At The Billiard Shop Rolled Nice With A Real Shaft On It So It Wasn't The Butt Section.

Dismayed now I examined the whole shaft for any more surprises, What else could be wrong with this beautiful shaft custom built by Steve Klapp I asked myself.

Just then I viewed the tip… It wasn't the super awesome Kamui Clear Medium Tip I Was So Generously Up Charged For, Nope...It Was An Imposter...

But That Didn't Matter Much Any Way, Cause after five test hits the tip went flying across the pool hall. Wonderful I Thought.

No Problem...There was an obvious mistake, I'll just get my money back and we will start over as this is a cue shaft built by the legend himself.

He is a top notch craftsman...blah blah blah so the review that I read went on. It really painted it on like this klapp guy knew his stuff...Right??

Surely he would stand behind his products after all he has a sterling reputation, Yep thats what he kept bragging to me about....Phooey!.

After he said in an email that he would refund my money I sent him the amateur-night shaft back at my expense. Thanks Steve.

I wait for three weeks and then I email him – His Reply…”I Need Some Time To Come Up With The Money For Your Refund” – A Couple Weeks? Jeesh.

I Wait Two More Months – I really wanted to give this guy the benefit of the doubt.

Two months and nothing, No letters, No Checks…NOTHING!!

I decide to call him and square this away – Would you believe I got through after just a couple rings…

I told him who I was and right away I just got a bunch of sob story crap. Yea like it’s my problem or something. He says he’ll send it right out.

Yep You Guessed It – NOTHING – NADA – ZIP – Zilcho.

So I try calling him again and now of course all I get is that lady telling me Mr. Klapp’s mail box is all full up…GREAT!!

So There You Have It – GEE MR. KLAPP HAVE I LEFT ANYTHING OUT?

Oh Yea the fact that it has been seven months that you have had my hundred and ninety bucks.

If the situation were reversed oh you bet your sweet tooshy I would be in collections and my credit would be tarnished not to mention the late charges from bounced checks…

Oh the humanity…Mr. Klapp YOU HAVE TAKEN MY MONEY SIR, AND NOT PRODUCED ANYTHING FOR IT THAT MAKES YOU A THIEF WHERE I COME FROM.

My Review Of Steve Klapps Custom Cues: Minus Five Stars.

Minus Five Stars For His Junk Equipment.
Minus Five Stars For His Embezzling Practices. - THIEF!
Minus Five Stars For His Customer Service After The Sale.

MINUS @#$%^ FIVE!!!

Thanks For Reading This Review Of Steve Klapps Custom Cues…I Know It Was A Long Read.

Now I’ll Probably Get Banned For Breaking Some Kind Of Rule On Here...

Thanks Again Steve.

K. Smith
Gresham, Oregon


Please let me know what is closer to where you are standing right now. A Moneygram location or a Western Union location. $200 will be sent to you before the end of the day. If you do not answer I will pick Moneygram, which can be picked up at Walmart and those are everywhere. I have your name, address and phone number. Please have a driver's license handy to receive payment.

200 splits your shipping and refunds your payment immediately.

If the money order was already cashed then it will be referred to the correct authorities for collections and and applicable charges.

All this over a facing issue and a tip ordered from the wrong supplier apparently. Sad days.

I'm sorry that Steve got in over his head. He's officially done with making shafts to order and repairs. He is doing quite well with the cues to order and also cues to sell and his service is suffering trying to goof around with a dozen custom shaft orders a week. With a dozen different tapers and tips and collars and joints.

I'm not speaking for him, just observing what is causing issues aloud.

I hope he doesn't come on here to defend himself or make excuses because you're right, his service sucked and now it is made right.

Have a nice day.
 
Please let me know what is closer to where you are standing right now. A Moneygram location or a Western Union location. $200 will be sent to you before the end of the day. If you do not answer I will pick Moneygram, which can be picked up at Walmart and those are everywhere. I have your name, address and phone number. Please have a driver's license handy to receive payment.

200 splits your shipping and refunds your payment immediately.

If the money order was already cashed then it will be referred to the correct authorities for collections and and applicable charges.

All this over a facing issue and a tip ordered from the wrong supplier apparently. Sad days.

I'm sorry that Steve got in over his head. He's officially done with making shafts to order and repairs. He is doing quite well with the cues to order and also cues to sell and his service is suffering trying to goof around with a dozen custom shaft orders a week. With a dozen different tapers and tips and collars and joints.

I'm not speaking for him, just observing what is causing issues aloud.

I hope he doesn't come on here to defend himself or make excuses because you're right, his service sucked and now it is made right.

Have a nice day.

what you are doing is very nice but, to be clear, I hope you aren't taking the op to task by saying "all this over a facing issue and a tip ordered from the wrong supplier"

The op waited 7 months for resolution that never came for a shaft that arrived in bad shape.

"all this", imo, rests squarely with Steve, who btw, still hasn't made good. You are doing that.

again, nice of you.

best,
brian kc.
 
Fair enough on your first point. To your second, I am only posting here because I got a call from Steve asking me to take care of it because he is tied up out of town loading up a new lathe.

Clearly not doing most of his work, as you said before. ;)
 
Fair enough on your first point. To your second, I am only posting here because I got a call from Steve asking me to take care of it because he is tied up out of town loading up a new lathe.

Clearly not doing most of his work, as you said before. ;)

coincidentally, during the very long delay I encountered in getting my replacement shaft, one of the excuses was Steve saying he was up in Maryland, I believe it was, picking up a new lathe. That was like 2 months ago.

He should be in good shape with lathes now. ;)

Who can I send my shaft back to for a prompt refund? seriously.

best,
brian kc
 
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Yep that would have been nice to know so an informed decision could be made.
As far as straight arrows go:
Straight arrows do what's right when no ones watching.
Straight arrows maintain honor and operate in an honorable way.
Straight arrows answer their phone when there is trouble.
Straight arrows do not act like cowards.
Mr. Krapp....you are not a straight arrow. You are a bent backwards arrow.

As far as PayPal goes, I don't use paypal.

The fact that mr. Krapp has an accomplice, does not make me feel any better.

There is only one way this gets righted. Mr. Krapp sends me a money order for one ninety. One ninety plus shipping would square it up nice.

No matter. No peace.

--kevin


Would just like to say that I am a good friend of Steve's and he IS a straight arrow there are many people who would step up to the plate and help Steve because he has always treated them right ,myself included.
.Has his faults as a cue maker and with customer service. (Which IMO are still minimal and can easily be rectified) but this "Krapp" comment was childish and uncalled for. A Complaint about your business dealings is one thing ,but you stepped over the line. Act professional and grow the **** up. U sound like ass.
 
One more thing. As far as tips not being right or popping off or whatever case may be.
Cue makers have enough on their plate with constructing a cue....(which is no easy task....try it someday). Take your shaft to your local guy and get it changed and stop whining.
I have never bothered any cue maker with tips. That's for the local guys who do it better than most cue makers anyway.
 
coincidentally, during the very long delay I encountered in getting my replacement shaft, one of the excuses was Steve saying he was up in Maryland, I believe it was, picking up a new lathe. That was like 2 months ago.

He should be in good shape with lathes now. ;)

Who can I send my shaft back to for a prompt refund? seriously.

best,
brian kc


You can send it back to Steve. You said as much that he offered a refund to you. I imagine he will need the shaft in his hands before he issues it.
 
I have been dealing with Steve for around 6 months give or take and I honestly have no real complaints. Yes his customer service is a little off. He hasn't sent me anything that's been off but in reality no one is perfect. How many people have bought a new car and had issues. Things do happen. It sucks you have waited so long to have your issue resolved. I know Steve will do right by you soon enough. I stand behind him 100%.
 
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