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Well he is certainly no Tiger woods where players just wilt by his mere presence and I don't know if anyone today has that or even if that's even achievable in today's pool
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Maybe not.But do you think he never heard what was written here from his friends?
Ask anyone in the world how they feel about playing Shane.
Now ask Shane how he feels playing anyone in the world.
Need I say more?
Now ask Shane how he feels playing anyone in the world.
Need I say more?
honestly, i've heard this kind statement a LOT of times already - when shane lost to biado last year in the WPA; when shane lost to wang can in ultimate 10ball; when shane lost to biado 2 weeks ago in the china open; when shane lost to chang yu lung 2 days ago. im very sure i'll hear it again after shane gets eliminated in another tournament.
i remember back in 2006, the day after alcano won the world championship, him and efren had a money game race to 25. efren beat him so bad the score was 25-7. was efren the better player that day? - yes. does it "dethrone" alcano as the world champion?- no.
A terrible comparison. Jimmy White had plenty of chances to win a world title and his failure to had nothing to do with rolls, as I'm sure he'd tell you himself.
Of all things, Jimmy credits his failure to practice properly and live a professional lifestyle as the two main reasons he doesn't have more major wins (and a world title, obviously), two things that seemingly aren't an issue for Shane.
Blaming it in rolls is a cop out.
Jaden,
in last year's WPA ultimate 10-ball carlo finished 4th; shane finished only 7th. in last year's world 9-ball, biado eliminated shane in top-32. biado moves forward and reaches the semifinals, then loses to hohmann. carlo also beat shane at hardtimes 10-ball last year and took the championship. this year's china open, carlo eliminates shane again in the quarters 11-4. in 2012 world 9-ball, if i remember it correctly, shane did not reach the last stage (final-64) while carlo finished in the top-16 or top-32.
that's all i have in my records. may i ask what tournaments you were referring to(where shane finished above carlo)?
Note: Carlo did not compete in last year's US Open, while Shane did not compete in last year's China Open and All-Japan Championship.
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Nonsense! Shane and Niels both reached the final day at the 2013 US open 9-ball event but it was Shane who won the title. Shane and Niels played each other in the final of the Big Foot 10-ball challenge, an event in which Ralf and Darren also played, and it was Shane who came out on top. Shane also won the Derby City 9-ball with Niels, Darren, Ralf, and many other stars of European pool in the field.
Any suggestion that Shane can't keep up with the European Players is uninformed. He has come 5th in the last two WPA events and seems on his way to me.
I remain convinced that Shane will, one day, fill in the one giant missing piece in his competitive resume by winning one or more WPA titles.
This year alone shane has won Derby city 9 ball- Biado got sixth. Shane won the Bigfoot challenge- IIRC Biado didn't win a match. Shane won U.S. barbox 9 ball and 10 ball, biado finished 17th and 13th. I'm sure there is quite a few more examples over the last few years arps.
A very apt comparison and no player with even an ounce of humility is going to blame it all on the rolls. The fact is that Jimmy White is a great professional who never won a works championship.
It happens.
For various reasons.
Who has gotten stronger, faster than Shane in the past few years???
thank you for the information. these tournaments you mentioned were all held in the US, right?
i'm also interested in the "few more examples". what are they?
Just for the record, Big Chief and I do small sweat bets all the time for the bigger tourneys. Sometimes one of us has to get the winner to win but most of the time, we just do total money like we did for this tourney. We each picked 15 guys and here were our picks as follows:
Me 1.SVB 2.Toasty 3.Chang Yu Lung 4.Pagulayan 5.Cheng Yu Hsuan 6.Kuo Po Cheng 7.Chang Jung Lin 8.Ko Ping Chung 9.Li He Wen 10. Boyes 11.Mika 12.Kuribayashi 13.Hayato 14.Morra 15.Akagariyama
Big Chief 1.Orcullo 2.Ko Pin Yi 3.Biado 4.Corteza 5.Appleton 6.Feijen 7.Wu 8.Souqet 9.Fu Che Wei 10.Wang Can 11.Luna 12.Lo Li Wen 13.Hsu Kui Lun 14.Gabica 15.Nick the Greek
Even though Big Chief got the eventual winner with his 6th round pick does it really mean that we drafted wrong? Can anyone really say that Niels is better than everyone else that we drafted before him? He's on the level yeah, but there is so much variance in tourneys that any one of these guys can win and have proven themselves. For the record, if I didn't draft SVB first I can guarantee Big Chief would have.....Him and Orcullo are always our top couple picks for a reason. Do one of them always win no, but they almost always finish high and it doesn't matter how many Filipinos or Europeans are in the field. Toasty won last year and look at his finish this year......Does it mean he's washed up or something, no. But there is alot of variance even in decent race tourney formats. The bulk of our guys finished well and coming into the final day I thought I was going to win with Lung but it's hard to play great every match.....
Congrats to Niels, he played the best last week and deserved to win but my point is there is alot of guys that could and can win this tourney and to just point at a couple and expect them to win on a given year is alot to expect...
Me 1.SVB 2.Toasty 3.Chang Yu Lung 4.Pagulayan 5.Cheng Yu Hsuan 6.Kuo Po Cheng 7.Chang Jung Lin 8.Ko Ping Chung 9.Li He Wen 10. Boyes 11.Mika 12.Kuribayashi 13.Hayato 14.Morra 15.Akagariyama
Big Chief 1.Orcullo 2.Ko Pin Yi 3.Biado 4.Corteza 5.Appleton 6.Feijen 7.Wu 8.Souqet 9.Fu Che Wei 10.Wang Can 11.Luna 12.Lo Li Wen 13.Hsu Kui Lun 14.Gabica 15.Nick the Greek
Even though Big Chief got the eventual winner with his 6th round pick does it really mean that we drafted wrong? Can anyone really say that Niels is better than everyone else that we drafted before him? He's on the level yeah, but there is so much variance in tourneys that any one of these guys can win and have proven themselves. For the record, if I didn't draft SVB first I can guarantee Big Chief would have.....Him and Orcullo are always our top couple picks for a reason. Do one of them always win no, but they almost always finish high and it doesn't matter how many Filipinos or Europeans are in the field. Toasty won last year and look at his finish this year......Does it mean he's washed up or something, no. But there is alot of variance even in decent race tourney formats. The bulk of our guys finished well and coming into the final day I thought I was going to win with Lung but it's hard to play great every match.....
Congrats to Niels, he played the best last week and deserved to win but my point is there is alot of guys that could and can win this tourney and to just point at a couple and expect them to win on a given year is alot to expect...
Here's a listing of the finishes of Biado and SVB in the events for which they are both listed in the AzB money lists (so there may be other events in which one of the players cashed and the other one did not). Biado's finish is listed first, then SVB's. The higher finish is bolded. A finish such as 13-21 means a tie for 13th through 21st places.
In these 22 events, Biado finished higher 9 times, SVB finished higher 12 times, and they tied once. SVB won 6 of these events whereas Biado won none of them.
2014
• China Open -- 3-4, 5-8
• WPA World 9-Ball -- 5-8, 5-8
• DCC 9-Ball -- 6-9, 1
• US Bar Box Open 8-Ball -- 7-8, 9-12
• DCC Bigfoot 10-Ball -- 9-16, 1
• DCC One-Pocket -- 13-21, 8-12
• US Bar Box Open 10-Ball -- 13-16, 1
• US Bar Box Open 9-Ball -- 17-24, 1
• DCC Banks -- 25-42, 11-14
2013
• US Open 8-Ball -- 2, 1
• West Coast Challenge One-Pocket -- 2, 5-6
• World 9-Ball -- 3-4, 17-32
• US Open One-Pocket -- 3, 13-16
• Ultimate 10-Ball -- 4, 7-8
• Southern Classic 9-Ball -- 4-6, 10-16
• US Open 10-Ball -- 5-6, 13-16
• DCC 9-Ball -- 13-18, 4-5
• DCC One-Pocket -- 15-21, 3
2012
• US Open -- 49-64, 1
2011
• World 10-Ball -- 3-4, 17-32
• World 9-Ball -- 9-16, 5-8
• Guinness World Series of Pool -- 17-32, 2
In these 22 events, Biado finished higher 9 times, SVB finished higher 12 times, and they tied once. SVB won 6 of these events whereas Biado won none of them.
2014
• China Open -- 3-4, 5-8
• WPA World 9-Ball -- 5-8, 5-8
• DCC 9-Ball -- 6-9, 1
• US Bar Box Open 8-Ball -- 7-8, 9-12
• DCC Bigfoot 10-Ball -- 9-16, 1
• DCC One-Pocket -- 13-21, 8-12
• US Bar Box Open 10-Ball -- 13-16, 1
• US Bar Box Open 9-Ball -- 17-24, 1
• DCC Banks -- 25-42, 11-14
2013
• US Open 8-Ball -- 2, 1
• West Coast Challenge One-Pocket -- 2, 5-6
• World 9-Ball -- 3-4, 17-32
• US Open One-Pocket -- 3, 13-16
• Ultimate 10-Ball -- 4, 7-8
• Southern Classic 9-Ball -- 4-6, 10-16
• US Open 10-Ball -- 5-6, 13-16
• DCC 9-Ball -- 13-18, 4-5
• DCC One-Pocket -- 15-21, 3
2012
• US Open -- 49-64, 1
2011
• World 10-Ball -- 3-4, 17-32
• World 9-Ball -- 9-16, 5-8
• Guinness World Series of Pool -- 17-32, 2
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Jericho Banares asked Shane to come to the Philippines and play for the cash he will give Shane 8-10. I say storm the front!!!
again thanks for the info. it seems that shane has dominated all the DCC tournaments and all the US Bar Box tournaments this year.
What does that mean? 8-10 in what? 10 ball, so Shane gets the 8,9 wild in 10 ball?
Not that Shane needs or wants my money but I would be willing to bet $5000 if they play a race to 100 in that format anywhere on the planet earth.