I didn't think it was a card table. No one in their right mind would go through that much trouble to cut a notch in a rail and felt it just to put a cup in a hole. The table is only about 3 feet wide too.
Adam
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I didn't think it was a card table. No one in their right mind would go through that much trouble to cut a notch in a rail and felt it just to put a cup in a hole. The table is only about 3 feet wide too.
Adam
You guys are right, this is a TAD cue from the 70's. This is one of the first cues Tad made that was not a plain maple cue. He began to experiment in the early 70's with rings and inlays. I bought quite a few cues from him back then. His shop was in the front of his poolroom on Washington Blvd, close to downtown Los Angeles. I would buy a plain jane maple cue for $60 and sell it for $75. :smile:
A cue like the one pictured would sell for $100-125, to rich for my blood back then.
A cue like the one pictured would sell for $100-125, to rich for my blood back then.
Thank you.
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Looks like a Tad to me...the forearm; are you sure it's a Spain blank and not a Szam? It's a sweet cue, whatever it is! :thumbup:
Well I played it last night and the wrap came loose on one strand revealing the maple core. I then removed the bumper and I'm not sure that it is a TAD, may be a szamboti altogether...
Ok Ernie Gutierrez says it's not a Ginacue and not a TAD, Barry Szamboti says it's not a Gus. I am fairly certain the forearm is a Spain blank and it is clear from the craftsmanship that this cue is made extremely well. If not a TAD or a Gus, who else could have made this cue?
Huh... Alright I'm intrigued. That cue is amazing and if it's not made by those three I'm confused who else could have the skill back then to do it.
I am equally confused. Who would be the best person to help identify the cue?
Either Bill Stroud, or Bill Schick. Stroud lives in NM...Schick lives in NW Louisiana. The other people that come to mind, are the big collectors, like Will Prout, the Glenns, or Rick Goulden. Good luck with your search! :thumbup: Very nice cue.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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Thank you Scott!!
I still think it could be a Rocky Tillis or an early Wayne Gunn cue. Wayne learned cue making from Rocky. Both used 5/16 x 18 sleeved joints, especially Tillis. (Wayne was making cues with 3/8 x 10 joints in the 90's)
Wayne Gunn is among the many who used Spain blanks on occasion... I don't know if Rocky ever did... But I have seen photos of Tillis cues with similar looking, longer than usual butt caps.
Attached is a photo of the cue I'm thinking of, from the tampabilliards.com site, note the inlay design as well...
Wayne Gunn is among the many who used Spain blanks on occasion... I don't know if Rocky ever did... But I have seen photos of Tillis cues with similar looking, longer than usual butt caps.
Attached is a photo of the cue I'm thinking of, from the tampabilliards.com site, note the inlay design as well...
That cue you say is a Tillis is a TAD, no question about that.
Post 27.....Ernie says it's not a Gina or a Tad....Barry says it's not a Szamboti.
I DO know I'd like to own it.
Post 27.....Ernie says it's not a Gina or a Tad....Barry says it's not a Szamboti.
I DO know I'd like to own it.
Umm, I was talking about the cue that jaetee posted. That's why I quoted him. I agree that the OP's cue is not a TAD.
If you are that certain of your assessment, I suggest you take it up with Terry McEniry.
I pulled that photo directly from www.tampabilliards.com website, where it is included in their photo gallery of Gunn-McEniry cues. Scroll about half way down this page: http://www.tampabilliards.com/gunncues.html and you'll see exactly where I pulled the image from. I knew Wayne and I know Terry, and they were/are both rightfully proud of their work. I'm positive they would NEVER misrepresent someone else's work as their own.
Early Gunn cues had lots in common with Rocky Tillis cues as they both learned the craft from Rocky, and most of Rocky Tillis shop supplies ended up with Wayne and Terry after he retired form cue making.
In the 90's, their style changed a bit, especially when they started using 3/8 x 10 flat joints.
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You need to ask Fred Kohara. Still a TAD in my opinion. Seen others just like it. Look at the long butt cap.
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Fred said if Ernie says it's not a Tad it's probably not a Tad but I sent him pics anyways, we shall see what he says...
Would you like to make a wager?
Here's one of my old Tad, see any similiarities? lol
Agreed that they look VERY, VERY similar, almost like twins.... But if you look closely at the multi-colored rings in the middle, those look a little different.
It seems to me there are lots of similarities between many of the 60's era cue makers. And I think it might have been pretty common for designs to be flat-out copied, especially when people were not in the habit of putting logos or signatures on their work to push a brand...