Question about the stroke

madmiller

madmiller

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I am a relative beginner at pool, been playing for just about a few years.
I noticed one thing and don't know what causes it.
I usually play with a 19 oz cue and a medium tip on it. And what I noticed is that when I pick up a heavier stick with a very hard tip, especially phenolic, I can pull off some of the shots that I cannot do with my regular stick.
I can draw better, I can make some difficult stroke shots, consistently , using a heavy break stick, especially with a phenolic tip.
But when I pick up my regular cue, then I have problems making those tough shots.
What does it tell about my stroke? And what should I do to fix it.
 
Doesn't sound like a stroke problem at all. Sounds like a cue stick issue.

randyg
 
So, how come other players can do those shots using their regular playing cues and I can only do it with a heavy break cue?
I don't wanna switch to a heavy break cue with a phenolic tip . There's something must be wrong with my stroke if I can't pull off some shots using a regular cue like everyone else.
 
For draw it may have little to do with stroke and more with speed and grip force. For regular shots, a heavier cue stays on line a little longer, providing more "straightness" with a pure hit, but more unwanted spin and problems on a mishit. Send me a video if you want me to look at your draw or post it here for all to take a look.

Thanks.
 
BilliardsAbout said:
For draw it may have little to do with stroke and more with speed and grip force. For regular shots, a heavier cue stays on line a little longer, providing more "straightness" with a pure hit, but more unwanted spin and problems on a mishit. Send me a video if you want me to look at your draw or post it here for all to take a look.

Thanks.
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I don't have any draw shot videos, but here's what I have found.
Here's the video of me making an object jump shot. Using a heavy break cue I can do it very consistently( can do it at least 10 times in a row). But if I switch to a regular playing cue, it's either hit or miss, mostly the later.
http://youtu.be/wPwOfCafsi4
 
And the reason that I think that the problem is in the stroke is that my, more proficient in pool friends, can do it with any playing cue, regardless of weight and hardness of the tip.
 
Seek help

madmiller said:
And the reason that I think that the problem is in the stroke is that my, more proficient in pool friends, can do it with any playing cue, regardless of weight and hardness of the tip.
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Have you considered having a qualified instructor watch your stroke? Or try both your cues?
 
Donny Lutz said:
Have you considered having a qualified instructor watch your stroke? Or try both your cues?
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I only have one cue, the one that I play with - 19 oz Lucasi Hybrid with a Jacoby Hybrid shaft.
Of course, I considered having an instructor watch, but at the moment I can't. That's why I asked here.
 
like many other sports, it's best to add weight to your training for quicker results

It sounds like you're not getting enough acceleration at impact. The phenolic tip will help because the cue ball "jumps off" much more than leather so you get a "false acceleration" reading (in your results) ......my teaching emphasizes this type of training, so if you ever want some input please feel free to contact me via email - thegameistheteacher@gmail.com - like many other sports, it's best to add weight to your training for quicker results......you'll see this in golf, tennis and baseball regularly.


madmiller said:
I am a relative beginner at pool, been playing for just about a few years.
I noticed one thing and don't know what causes it.
I usually play with a 19 oz cue and a medium tip on it. And what I noticed is that when I pick up a heavier stick with a very hard tip, especially phenolic, I can pull off some of the shots that I cannot do with my regular stick.
I can draw better, I can make some difficult stroke shots, consistently , using a heavy break stick, especially with a phenolic tip.
But when I pick up my regular cue, then I have problems making those tough shots.
What does it tell about my stroke? And what should I do to fix it.
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Have you had your more proficient friends try your cue to see if they draw the ball just fine?

Most players that have problems drawing the cue ball are trying too hard. Trying to draw the ball results in tensing up and trying to force it, which causes you to decelerate instead of accelerating through the cue ball. Keep the grip and arm really loose and relaxed all the way through the stroke. Start at one speed and have a gradual acceleration all the way through to the end of your stroke.

If you can't get to an instructor, some instructors would come to you (as long as its not too far or if the money was right).
 
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