which is best
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No one can really answer that for you. It depends on how YOU learn, and what time you are willing to put in on it. Some never do understand either one. But, once you do learn it, I think that out of 90/90, See, and CTE/Pro 1, 90/90 is the easiest to learn, and CTE is the most accurate. (most accurate because you are using more than one reference point)
I've studied and used them all, I mean really put the time in and learned them and used them for periods of time in competition etc., only a few on here can say the same I think for all 3 systems.
I probably have the least amount of time invested in 90/90. I understand the basics, but certainly not all of the nuances, adjustments, banking/kicking systems Ron teaches, etc. Need to still watch the recent DVD and see what else I can pick up. Neil and Dave S are probably the two most well versed. Agree it's probably the simplest and easiest to learn.
Spent over a year with CTE/Pro1, strong system and obviously Stan and a dozen or so others here are very well versed in it as well and helpful with questions etc. Stan's support videos on YouTube offer a lot of extra bonus information over and above the DVDs. Once you understand it and put the time in it offers a lot of consistency.
SEE is my current approach - actually a derivative of it that Ekkes and I have been experimenting with. I think it's pretty easy to teach, but to really gain understanding it too requires some study and time at the table, although the basic shots are easy to understand. I like the one line approach vs. two, and the spin line adjustments are very accurate once learned, a nice alternative to traditional methods of compensation. Use of shadows can be funky for some people (new approach largely eliminates this).
Everyone learns a little differently, and you may find one better suited to you than another. IMHO after a few years of playing with them, all valid means to an end. My advice is to learn one or two, play around with them and use what works, the extra gained information won't hurt and in all 3 cases even if you don't use the system there is other good information in the manuals/videos. Just don't spend all your time experimenting and switching around, there is so much more to playing well than putting all of your focus on aiming...
If you have any questions on comparisons etc., PM me.
Scott
I probably have the least amount of time invested in 90/90. I understand the basics, but certainly not all of the nuances, adjustments, banking/kicking systems Ron teaches, etc. Need to still watch the recent DVD and see what else I can pick up. Neil and Dave S are probably the two most well versed. Agree it's probably the simplest and easiest to learn.
Spent over a year with CTE/Pro1, strong system and obviously Stan and a dozen or so others here are very well versed in it as well and helpful with questions etc. Stan's support videos on YouTube offer a lot of extra bonus information over and above the DVDs. Once you understand it and put the time in it offers a lot of consistency.
SEE is my current approach - actually a derivative of it that Ekkes and I have been experimenting with. I think it's pretty easy to teach, but to really gain understanding it too requires some study and time at the table, although the basic shots are easy to understand. I like the one line approach vs. two, and the spin line adjustments are very accurate once learned, a nice alternative to traditional methods of compensation. Use of shadows can be funky for some people (new approach largely eliminates this).
Everyone learns a little differently, and you may find one better suited to you than another. IMHO after a few years of playing with them, all valid means to an end. My advice is to learn one or two, play around with them and use what works, the extra gained information won't hurt and in all 3 cases even if you don't use the system there is other good information in the manuals/videos. Just don't spend all your time experimenting and switching around, there is so much more to playing well than putting all of your focus on aiming...
If you have any questions on comparisons etc., PM me.
Scott
Im a big CTE/Pro One advocate but I also bought the SEE materials and spent some time with it. I chose CTE but SEE is very well documented and seemed to be a good system. Stan is accessible for me to take lessons from which was also a factor in choosing his system. I think if you buy the materials, have a straight stroke and put in the table time, either of these systems should help you improve.
I like my system the best. Easy to learn only two things to remember.
If you over cut the ball hit it thicker next time
If you under cut the ball hit it thinner next time.
You are welcome
No charge
If you over cut the ball hit it thicker next time
If you under cut the ball hit it thinner next time.
You are welcome
No charge
And what do you do the time after that if you have a bad memory?
Pool isn't the best hobby for a person with a bad memory.
"Have a straight stroke" Now there is a real prerequisite.
