I'm bad at aiming

Dionysus said:
Hi,

I started playing pool about four years ago, just with friends for fun from time to time. Even though for the last year I started playing seriously, at least once a week, and recently 3/4 times a week, I still have a bad aiming, i miss simple shots quite often. However, my stance is well, my bridge too, I put my dominant eye on the aiming line, I imagine the ghost ball...
Is it because I don't have enough experience ? Will it come over time ?

If you have any advice I'd be grateful !

Thanks for your time ;)

PS: I play english pool so small tables
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Without seeing you play, my guess would be a faulty stroke.
The CB won't go to the exact point of aim with a bad stroke.
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I gave some pretty good advice and not a peep from the op.:confused:
Are you sure you wanna get better at aiming?? I don't think so.:wink:

Listen, SVB does something very similar, just a little different and confusing the way he explains it. You ever see good player's even pro's aim a the contact point??(back of ball)
I think so....do you actually think their aiming right at the contact point?? Please say no, cause its an obvious under cut ...right?:wink:

Aim thick does the trick in so many ways.;)
 
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8pack said:
I gave some pretty good advice and not a peep from the op.:confused:
Are you sure you wanna get better at aiming?? I don't think so.:wink:

Listen, SVB does something very similar, just a little different and confusing the way he explains it. You ever see good player's even pro's aim a the contact point??(back of ball)
I think so....do you actually think their aiming right at the contact point?? Please say no, cause its an obvious under cut ...right?:wink:

Aim thick does the trick in so many ways.;)
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Aiming at the back of the ball is something everyone should learn. Its how snooker, pool and billiards pros do things for the majority of shots.
 
Pidge said:
Aiming at the back of the ball is something everyone should learn. Its how snooker, pool and billiards pros do things for the majority of shots.
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It is one of the best if not the best way to aline to the shot. Start with small angled shots,work your way to wide angled shots. Once you get the hang of it,not hard at all.
Simple and effective.

Anthony
 
8pack said:


It is one of the best if not the best way to aline to the shot. Start with small angled shots,work your way to wide angled shots. Once you get the hang of it,not hard at all.
Simple and effective.

Anthony
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Anthony,

How do you compensate for the under cut? I've figured out how I do it. I'd be interested in your process.

Best,
Mike
 
This is the problem with contact point and even back of ball. As the cut angle increase your line of sight.....ie looking straight ahead is offset to the contact point.

The only time your line of sight, looking straight ahead and the contact point are on the same line is a straight in shot.

Now with the GB contact patch, ie the spot on the table the CB needs to be to make the OB go where you want, there is no offset as the cut angle increase cause all shots are straight. You are looking straight at where the CB goes and not have to consider a point to one side of the line of sight.

Babe Cranfield was able to use this concept well. So go ahead and diss this idea, this concept.

It amazes me that those who do not, can not, have not spent the time using ghost ball says its bad. I'm a pure ghost ball user and I've done some shots that have left my opponent shaking their heads at those shots. Wondering how the hell I did that. There is a reason a few call me the Bank Master.

All using ghost ball and no other system.
 
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duckie said:
This is the problem with contact point and even back of ball. As the cut angle increase your line of sight.....ie looking straight ahead is offset to the contact point.

The only time your line of sight, looking straight ahead and the contact point are on the same line is a straight in shot.

Now with the GB contact patch, ie the spot on the table the CB needs to be to make the OB go where you want, there is no offset as the cut angle increase cause all shots are straight. You are looking straight at where the CB goes and not have to consider a point to one side of the line of sight.

Babe Cranfield was able to use this concept well. So go ahead and diss this idea, this concept.

It amazes me that those who do not, can not, have not spent the time using ghost ball says its bad. I'm a pure ghost ball user and I've done some shots that have left my opponent shaking their heads at those shots. Wondering how the hell I did that. There is a reason a few call me the Bank Master.

All using ghost ball and no other system.
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So, you work in a bank?

Ghost ball is a perfectly sound way of aiming banks, kicks, pots, safeties and so on. It is at its best when you use it in its most simple form. That being said, I know of no top pool, billiard or snooker player currently using it. Especially in the snooker world. The top players will never aim at the middle of a ghost ball patch. Its beginners, and I mean pure beginners that use this way of aiming in snooker, and pool for that matter.
 
Pidge said:
So, you work in a bank?

Ghost ball is a perfectly sound way of aiming banks, kicks, pots, safeties and so on. It is at its best when you use it in its most simple form. That being said, I know of no top pool, billiard or snooker player currently using it. Especially in the snooker world. The top players will never aim at the middle of a ghost ball patch. Its beginners, and I mean pure beginners that use this way of aiming in snooker, and pool for that matter.
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This should be framed in sterling silver, and hung over every one of duckie's posts.

The guy takes the basic principle of a training device -- i.e. getting you to visualize a ghostball and its placement/relationship to the object ball on the table -- and thinks that's the be-all, end-all of aiming. When what he doesn't grasp (because he's a beginner), is that the training device is just that -- a training device that is a primer to basic aiming. The idea is to get you to take those basic concepts, and graduate to higher levels of aiming -- i.e. recognizing the CP-to-CP or fractional relationships (which are part of back-of-ball). It's like he's saying that training wheels for bicycles are the best thing since sliced bread, and you aren't riding a bike unless you're riding one with training wheels.

I like how he tries to "ding" the back-of-ball concept, when he's actually dinging something that if he weren't so closed-minded and fixated, he'd be graduating to.

-Sean
 
Dionysus said:
Hi,

I started playing pool about four years ago, just with friends for fun from time to time. Even though for the last year I started playing seriously, at least once a week, and recently 3/4 times a week, I still have a bad aiming, i miss simple shots quite often. However, my stance is well, my bridge too, I put my dominant eye on the aiming line, I imagine the ghost ball...
Is it because I don't have enough experience ? Will it come over time ?

If you have any advice I'd be grateful !

Thanks for your time ;)

PS: I play english pool so small tables
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Dyonysus,

I'm not a certified instructor but...

Are you sure you are imagining the ghost ball in the proper place? Like someone said it is keeping that ghost ball in the proper place when envisioning it from the the angle of the cue ball that is sometimes the problem.

If a friend can help you, you might try this. Set up a cut shot & put the nine ball into the ghost ball position so that it lines up ever so slightly off of the center pocket on the thinner cut side. Then go set up on the cue ball & have your friend remove the 9 / ghost ball & shoot the shot. If you make it fine... but if you miss it then you probably have stroke issues.

If you made the shot, reverse the process. Look at the shot & then set up to shoot the shot & DO NOT MOVE...stay still & focussed OR maybe better yet close your eyes while your friend places the 9/ghost ball into position & then open your eyes & see if you are lined up on it properly.

This might give you an idea IF you are seeing the true ghost ball properly.

All that said I find it a bit surprising that you are still using just a ghost ball method after 4 years.

I'd suggest that you get a copy of Jimmy Reed's equal & opposite fractional aiming method or Stan Shuffett's CTE Pro 1.

Good Luck in finding your solution & Best Wishes,
Rick

PS Another option is to play more dynamically as shown in CJ Wiley's TOI (Touch of Inside) video.
 
duckie said:
This is the problem with contact point and even back of ball. As the cut angle increase your line of sight.....ie looking straight ahead is offset to the contact point.

The only time your line of sight, looking straight ahead and the contact point are on the same line is a straight in shot.

Now with the GB contact patch, ie the spot on the table the CB needs to be to make the OB go where you want, there is no offset as the cut angle increase cause all shots are straight. You are looking straight at where the CB goes and not have to consider a point to one side of the line of sight.

Babe Cranfield was able to use this concept well. So go ahead and diss this idea, this concept.

It amazes me that those who do not, can not, have not spent the time using ghost ball says its bad. I'm a pure ghost ball user and I've done some shots that have left my opponent shaking their heads at those shots. Wondering how the hell I did that.
There is a reason a few call me the Bank Master. :withstupid:
All using ghost ball and no other system.
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Aflac.... the duckie speaks
 
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duckie said:
It amazes me that those who do not, can not, have not spent the time using ghost ball says its bad. I'm a pure ghost ball user and I've done some shots that have left my opponent shaking their heads at those shots. Wondering how the hell I did that. There is a reason a few call me the Bank Master.
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I promise you that no half way decent player is going to refer to YOU as the Bank Master.

Shank Master? Maybe.
 
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