Stan Shuffet Challenge

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nobcitypool said:
Colin, you should stick to back hand english. What are you trying to accomplish with your posting? It simply escapes me how people who don't understand how the system functions are so ready to dissect it with their "technical" analysis. If you don't care enough to actually learn the system, why do you care in the least to post all this crap? Honestly, it destroys your technical credibility completely.

If this is what you're all about, go back to drawing diagrams and dissecting BHE. I guarantee you I won't be critiquing you for that. I lack the technical acumen to do so but more importantly, I could care less. You people talk about Professionals not caring or thinking about aiming? I'll bet though they really take your BHE analysis to heart. LMAO! Next you should work on something really important, like analyzing the affect of chalk dust on draw as seen from a pocket angle. Or something like that. And look, I promise not to post on that and attempt to shoot holes in your theory.
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Nob,
Not meaning to disparage you in using that name btw, just prefer to personalize a reply and I don't know what name you'd prefer to go by.

Just want to say, that if someone could show that I moved my pivot during a BHE demonstration or shoot any holes in my theories, I'd be happy to have it brought to my attention so I could make systemic adjustments and avoid intuitive subjective applications where I could.

Colin
 
8pack said:
In 90/90 where you pivot from on the ob determines where you pivot to . The placement on the cb is always the same . Left or right side of cb. And bridge lenght matters from person to person....meaning longer bridges cut less.
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So, you don't understand 90/90. In 90/90, you always pivot to the perceived center cb.
 
Colin Colenso said:
So moving the bridge during the pivot makes no difference Stan?

Perhaps you have a 3D way of explaining how a bridge shift doesn't affect the potting line?

Why not just admit that one stroke was not executed as per system recommendations? Instead of making a personal attack against someone who made the effort to show an inconsistency.

Are you saying bridge movement during the pivot is part of the system you recommend?

Colin
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Like I have said Colin, you are so stuck into believing what you want to, that your reading comprehension is totally polluted. You have had it explained to you in very simple terms. Yet, even then, you claim it makes no sense to you. That is because you keep trying to relate to what you THINK is happening, and totally fail to simply understand the statements made.

There is nothing for Stan to admit to. Your assumption is totally false. YOU are the one that fails to see the simply obvious. Where you pivot from isn't near as important as where you are pivoting to. You fail to be able to wrap your head around that. You are unwilling to learn something at this point in time, because you already think you know it all. Sorry, but you are very wrong.
 
Neil said:
Like I have said Colin, you are so stuck into believing what you want to, that your reading comprehension is totally polluted. You have had it explained to you in very simple terms. Yet, even then, you claim it makes no sense to you. That is because you keep trying to relate to what you THINK is happening, and totally fail to simply understand the statements made.

There is nothing for Stan to admit to. Your assumption is totally false. YOU are the one that fails to see the simply obvious. Where you pivot from isn't near as important as where you are pivoting to. You fail to be able to wrap your head around that. You are unwilling to learn something at this point in time, because you already think you know it all. Sorry, but you are very wrong.
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Neil,
Perhaps you should take note of the fact that none of the system proponents ever defend you. There is a reason why.

I'll no longer respond to you, because I don't think you're capable of intelligent discussion.

Colin
 
Colin Colenso said:
Neil,
Perhaps you should take note of the fact that none of the system proponents ever defend you. There is a reason why.

I'll no longer respond to you, because I don't think you're capable of intelligent discussion.

Colin
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I beg your pardon. Neil has consistently made correct and solid comments concerning CTE....for years.

Stan Shuffett
 
Colin Colenso said:
Nob,
Not meaning to disparage you in using that name btw, just prefer to personalize a reply and I don't know what name you'd prefer to go by.

Just want to say, that if someone could show that I moved my pivot during a BHE demonstration or shoot any holes in my theories, I'd be happy to have it brought to my attention so I could make systemic adjustments and avoid intuitive subjective applications where I could.

Colin
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Colin, I understand the nob meaning in England. No worries, I have thick skin.

If you want to attempt to dissect CTE by picking out one shot made by Gerry, have at it. He's made hundreds, perhaps thousands, on videos he's posted. One shot hardly matters whether you're correct or not. I think his playing capability speaks for itself and he has zero motivation to lie about CTE.

Neil doesn't need defending, his credibility goes without saying. He's consistently been one of the most astute posters at AZ imho.
 
stan shuffett said:
Real CTE is a visual system....the bridge follows perception.

Back up and learn CTE perception...

Then you CAN begin to understand bridge placement and the slight rotation that occurs to CCB.

Stan Shuffett
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Again, so bridge movement is ok in your system Stan?

I'm not claiming that the bridge movement in that one shot disproves CTE or pro 1. Just that it shows that some demonstrations used to support the hypothesis actually show intuitive adjustment.

I've never seen or heard you say that it's ok for the bridge to move during a pivot. Enlighten us, and make such a claim if you believe it.
 
It's not where you pivot from, it's all about where you pivot to.

Can anyone but the original poster explain this?
 
Neil said:
Do you use 90/90? I do about half my shots. You never pivot to center ob. It's always to the cb. Maybe you misunderstood him?
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WTFudge are you talking about? Read my post , where do I say pivot to center ob?
 
ENGLISH! said:
It's not where you pivot from, it's all about where you pivot to.

Can anyone but the original poster explain this?
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You have 3 targets on the ob,1 on each side of the cb. If your cutting to the right , you use the right side of the cb.

Neils not well today, don't pay him anymind. :)
 
Colin Colenso said:
Again, so bridge movement is ok in your system Stan?

I'm not claiming that the bridge movement in that one shot disproves CTE or pro 1. Just that it shows that some demonstrations used to support the hypothesis actually show intuitive adjustment.

I've never seen or heard you say that it's ok for the bridge to move during a pivot. Enlighten us, and make such a claim if you believe it.
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This must be a joke.

I have 2 videos out and 50 plus support videos.

Go trap yourself!!

CTE is a VISUAL system. I repeat VISUAL. Get that.

Stan Shuffett
 
8pack said:
WTFudge are you talking about? Read my post , where do I say pivot to center ob?
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"In 90/90 where you pivot from on the ob determines where you pivot to . The placement on the cb is always the same . Left or right side of cb. And bridge lenght matters from person to person....meaning longer bridges cut less."

Right there. In fairness, what you said can be taken two ways though. Whether you use edge cb to edge ob, or edge cb to center ob, you always pivot from edge cb to center cb.

bridge length is not a critical factor if you simply place your bridge hand on the correct line and perceive center cb from there.
 
8pack said:
You have 3 targets on the ob,1 on each side of the cb. If your cutting to the right , you use the right side of the cb.

Neils not well today, don't pay him anymind. :)
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Thanks Anthony, but I think it was in reference to CTE as that is where the conversation originated.

Best to Ya',
Rick
 
8pack said:
You have 3 targets on the ob,1 on each side of the cb. If your cutting to the right , you use the right side of the cb.

Neils not well today, don't pay him anymind. :)
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You're talking about "targets" , and I'm the one that's not well. Hmmm......As is CTE, 90/90 is a visual system.
Targets are what you actually are aiming at.
 
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ENGLISH! said:
Thanks Anthony, but I think it was in reference to CTE as that is where the conversation originated.

Best to Ya',
Rick
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If you knew anything about the pivot systems, (which you and several others posting about it don't), you would know that once you have your visuals, you are 1/2 tip away from center cb. Your cb is fixed. Your pivot is to put your cue at a 90 degree angle from fixed center cb. The cb is your target.

I know, I know, you still have no clue what I was just talking about.
 
Neil said:
You're talking about "targets" , and I'm the one that's not well. Hmmm......As is CTE, 90/90 is a visual system.
Targets are what you actually are aiming at.
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You have 3 objective points on the object ball , we then aim through a spot on the cb with are cue at a spot that is objective. But for us to do that we must be able to see, so I guess its a visual system to. We then turn to center cb. Sounds more like a manual system, but visually you must see where to start I guess....lol


Are you just trying to confuse people.:)
 
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