ABR SPECIAL REPORT: WPA vs DRAGON PROMOTIONS

I just wanted to make it clear that the WPA did recognize the DP World 14.1 Championship in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2010 and recognizes the winners those years as world champions. They should make accommodations when the added money/sponsorship falls short to still recognize the event. Especially 14.1 which is a dying discipline which needs a Worlds Tournament.

Just my Opinion (I am only talking about 14.1 not the rotation games)

Wedge

This is just my opinion.

I think that if I were an organizer adding 100 or 150k for a World Championship, I would have a serious problem with the WPA sanctioning an event that puts up (for example) less than 1/3 of what I'm putting up, even if it is a different game. It's still pool. In fact, I might even consider withdrawing my event or maybe even informing the WPA that I think I want to decrease my added money to equal the other event's added money. After all, the title is still a world championship, right? I think I'd be an idiot to add 3 times the amount for the rights to the same title.

So who loses if that happens? The players lose.
 
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Yes Fran

This is just my opinion.

I think that if I were an organizer adding 100 or 150k for a World Championship, I would have a serious problem with the WPA sanctioning an event that puts up (for example) less than 1/3 of what I'm putting up, even if it is a different game. It's still pool. In fact, I might even consider withdrawing my event or maybe even informing the WPA that I think I want to decrease my added money to equal the other event's added money. After all, the title is still a world championship, right? I think I'd be an idiot to add 3 times the amount for the rights to the same title.

So who loses if that happens? The players lose.

I value your opinion and completely understand it is a slippery slope at best for the WPA. Enjoy your posts on AZ as they are informed and lucid. Although we don't quite agree on the 14.1 I get it. On the other hand the WPA sanctions artistic pool and the prize money is squat! If they make an exception for artistic pool they could make it for 14.1.

Thanks again for your responses

Frank
 
I value your opinion and completely understand it is a slippery slope at best for the WPA. Enjoy your posts on AZ as they are informed and lucid. Although we don't quite agree on the 14.1 I get it. On the other hand the WPA sanctions artistic pool and the prize money is squat! If they make an exception for artistic pool they could make it for 14.1.

Thanks again for your responses

Frank

Thanks Frank. I respect your opinion as well, and appreciate the discussion.
 
Wow, Jennie -- that was a loaded sentence! (Ouch, looks like I just added to it. :eek: )

OMG, my mind never went *there.* :o Of course, I mean in the speaking sense. :wink:

That said, I lost respect for anything affiliated with this enterprise after I experienced firsthand how the UPA was run. Whoever in the BCA gave CW the green light to be in charge of the UPA should have had their head examined. When the UPA ship was sinking in the waters, its captain bailed immediately, soon thereafter sailing on a new ship named Dragon, leaving the players to be on their own, after they all signed contracts at CW's insistance and had committed their loyalty to the UPA.
 
OMG, my mind never went *there.* :o Of course, I mean in the speaking sense. :wink:

:D You have to admit, though, that that sentence was appropriately rich when you consider the background of all the goings-on.

That said, I lost respect for anything affiliated with this enterprise after I experienced firsthand how the UPA was run. Whoever in the BCA gave CW the green light to be in charge of the UPA should have had their head examined. When the UPA ship was sinking in the waters, its captain bailed immediately, soon thereafter sailing on a new ship named Dragon, leaving the players to be on their own, after they all signed contracts at CW's insistance and had committed their loyalty to the UPA.

Not that it's new (it happens in the corporate world all the time, when people create start-up companies with an interesting idea, only to sell those companies off later under the definition of entrepreneurship), but it's sad when it's done this way. Parasitic abandonment?

In listening to the podcast, I get the sense that Ian is about beside himself with the antics -- i.e. agree to change one thing, but then shoehorn the supposed-to-be-replaced thing in somewhere else as if to thumb his nose at the WPA. In this case, "ok, I'll change the title of the tournament to remove the word 'world' -- but then clandestinely, I'll shoehorn verbiage off to the side that says, 'something-something Tournament -- formerly known as...'."

I would *think* that Dragon would see the benefit of creating a new event rather than trying to ride the coattails of an event that had run its course anyway. (As Ian says in the podcast, the event he's trying to ride was finished -- its contracted time had concluded.) Look at the fanfare that Badi Nazat created with the Ultimate 10-ball -- a new event. He didn't have to ride anything, he (with his staff, of course) created it all on his/their own.

Not sure what Dragon is trying to do here with the insistence on riding an already-concluded event. :scratchhead:

-Sean
 
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