Show your palmers

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It isn't the "Colavita" Palmer....(.I just spoke with the owner)
This is an exact sister cue. The only difference is this one has the Palmer
Logo on the delrin butt cap. Very interesting to now know there is another
Obviously the provenance difference is a large factor in price.
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Actually, the Palmer stamp creates a question.

Was this second cue made at the same time as the Colavita cue? If so, the butt cap was replaced because the Colavita cue was reportedly made by Eugene Balner himself. These stamped butt caps were not used until the 3rd Catalog was in production.

Jay
 
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How About Show Your Brunswick Palmers?

Occasionally I am asked about Brunswick Palmers. I find them interesting, probably more so due to my interest in Palmer house cue conversions and their variants.

Chris Tate related that Brunswick and Palmer entered into a contract to produce them and that there were various models.

I have seen three different models:

The Brunswick Custom which followed the specifications of the 2nd Catalog Model B with some of the foil embossed with "Original by Palmer" below the name "Brunswick Custom". The plastic rings in the butt were various colors and of a slightly different configuration than catalog Palmers.

The Brunswick Original which was based on the 2nd Catalog Model E which was also produced with plastic rings in the butt of varying colors. Again the ring configuration was unique and did not mirror any standard Palmers of the time. The joint collars were also slightly different with two black rings with a pearl ring between them. This model used a veneered forearm.

And finally, the Lord Brunswick which was the most decorated and unique with inlays, totally different butt style and a veneered forearm. Only on the Lord Brunswick have I seen foils using the earlier Broadway font as well as the later Hobo font. Apparently the inlays and the rings in the joint collar varied slightly as well.

In my experience, I have only seen Brunswick Palmers with linen wraps and I have never seen one with a solid color or multi-stage wrap. They might exist, I am just saying that from my observations, I have never seen one.
 

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Nice, I never knew about the Brunswicks by Palmer, it must have been a really big deal for Palmer to get a contract with the largest billiard company in the world back then:grin-square:
 
Here is my Brunswick by Palmer with only the owners name.
When I found this, my buddy chastised me for buying a cue with plastic in it. He didn't understand. It has been dubbed plastic fantastic ever since v
I have one of pooldawg8's milk duds on this thing and it is a ball pocketing machine. 17.8oz and it moves the ball like a 20oz. I love it.



 
Type79 said:
Occasionally I am asked about Brunswick Palmers. I find them interesting, probably more so due to my interest in Palmer house cue conversions and their variants.

Chris Tate related that Brunswick and Palmer entered into a contract to produce them and that there were various models.

I have seen three different models:

The Brunswick Custom which followed the specifications of the 2nd Catalog Model B with some of the foil embossed with "Original by Palmer" below the name "Brunswick Custom". The plastic rings in the butt were various colors and of a slightly different configuration than catalog Palmers.

The Brunswick Original which was based on the 2nd Catalog Model E which was also produced with plastic rings in the butt of varying colors. Again the ring configuration was unique and did not mirror any standard Palmers of the time. The joint collars were also slightly different with two black rings with a pearl ring between them. This model used a veneered forearm.

And finally, the Lord Brunswick which was the most decorated and unique with inlays, totally different butt style and a veneered forearm. Only on the Lord Brunswick have I seen foils using the earlier Broadway font as well as the later Hobo font. Apparently the inlays and the rings in the joint collar varied slightly as well.

In my experience, I have only seen Brunswick Palmers with linen wraps and I have never seen one with a solid color or multi-stage wrap. They might exist, I am just saying that from my observations, I have never seen one.
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Beautiful Stuff...Love it
 
Anonymous Palmers

Within every Catalog, Palmer produced cues that did not bear the Palmer logo or have their traditional window.

It's been discussed before whether these cues are rare or just not recognized as Palmers. With the absence of production records, it is difficult to know for sure, but the unlabelled Palmers seem to be somewhat rare, or more difficult to find.

First Catalog Model 1's, Second Catalog Model A's, and Third Catalog Model 4's are in abundance but that is more likely due to commonly held belief that they were made in the thousands. The models further up the food chain are those we encounter less often.

So here is a gander at a selection of the nameless Palmers from the First and Second Catalogs.

From left to right:
Second Catalog - Models H, C, & A.
First Catalog - Models 4, 3, 2, & 1.

First Catalog Model 1s are somewhat interesting in that the width and configuration of the plastic rings in the butt vary in size and orientation.

It's all Palmer fun.
 

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Type79 said:
Within every Catalog, Palmer produced cues that did not bear the Palmer logo or have their traditional window.

It's been discussed before whether these cues are rare or just not recognized as Palmers. With the absence of production records, it is difficult to know for sure, but the unlabelled Palmers seem to be somewhat rare, or more difficult to find.

First Catalog Model 1's, Second Catalog Model A's, and Third Catalog Model 4's are in abundance but that is more likely due to commonly held belief that they were made in the thousands. The models further up the food chain are those we encounter less often.

So here is a gander at a selection of the nameless Palmers from the First and Second Catalogs.

From left to right:
Second Catalog - Models H, C, & A.
First Catalog - Models 4, 3, 2, & 1.

First Catalog Model 1s are somewhat interesting in that the width and configuration of the plastic rings in the butt vary in size and orientation.

It's all Palmer fun.
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Absolutely love your Palmers. I had quite a few of them.
I was a regular at Hi- Cue and West End Billiards, Palmer was right next door. Many times I would stop in and shoot the breeze, look at cues.

Also was a regular at Pete Margo's Golden Cue. Mizerak and a bunch of others were always around. Talking cues, selling ,trading, Palmers,Paradise, Bushkas, Szams were everywhere.

You could buy most of them dirt cheap, used, pristine condition.
Wish I had a dollar for all that went through my hands.

Very Nice Collection
 
Barry,

Thanks for sharing. You have a collection of some of the most beautiful Palmers.
 
Palmer 20 x Three

Jay, thanks for your kind words. Your collection is quite impressive too. I love all the aqua-green butts. Now that's a collection!
 

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Palmer J x Two

Palmer J x Two
 

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Palmer K x Two

Palmer K x Two
 

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The Model J

Those that know me have heard me repeat my opinion that the reverse splice Model J is arguably the most beautiful of all the Palmers. Js and Ks are my favorite high-end Palmers.

Thanks again for sharing.
 
Palmer J & K x Two

Palmer J & K x Two
 

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Pretty nice Palmer but it isnt a Szamboti forearm.

Its one of those even better Palmer forearms. Much more rare..:rolleyes:

Ken
 

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Palmer

Looks like a very fine #16. I have one that I bought new in a fellini case back in 1979. I still have the receipt and I think the package was around 375.00. Thanks for sharing the pictures.
 
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rdwell said:
Looks like a very fine #16. I have one that I bought new in a fellini case back in 1979. I still have the receipt and I think the package was around 375.00. Thanks for sharing the pictures.
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Randy,

That is very nice documentation to have, not to mention the original Fellini case.

As for the purchase price. Not everyone might appreciate it but $375 was huge money in 1979.
 
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