What size tip for a C or D player
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If you intend to start using side spin, the amount of squirt (or "cue ball deflection") that the stick causes is far, far more important to your learning and how you play the game than the specific diameter of the tip.
Do you understand about squirt?
I did not say anything about the size being too loose in the bridge or anything related to the bridge.
You can say it does not make a difference until you die on your death bed but that does not make what you say true.
To think that a difference makes no difference is IRRATIONAL.
To believe such makes it a religion.
May God Bless You, Neil
Winner winner chicken dinner!!!:thumbup:
So the answer to my question is basically I wasn't wrong suggesting 13mm but wrong in the reason.I think Neil was replying to me since I brought up the issue of a thinner shaft needs a tighter bridge.
No problem that people have different opinions. A 13mm shaft vs a 11.75mm shaft. IMHO, the 13mm is better for a beginner and they will pocket balls more consistently with the 13 than the 11.75. It's true for me and others at my pool hall. Most noticeable with longer shots played on 9 ft tight pocket tables.
No problem that people have different opinions. A 13mm shaft vs a 11.75mm shaft. IMHO, the 13mm is better for a beginner and they will pocket balls more consistently with the 13 than the 11.75. It's true for me and others at my pool hall. Most noticeable with longer shots played on 9 ft tight pocket tables.
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You can take wood off of a shaft, but you can't put wood back on a shaft. Let them start big and go down in size or see what size is most comfortable to them.
Mr. Brown,
No offense intended, but..
A very soft 14mm tip with no radius, flat, vs a very hard 11mm tip with a radius less than a dime = the exact same size contact 'patch' for the same force of stroke?
I have some physics education & am capable of rational thinking. I am not locked into a 'religious' faction.
Many are locked into what they have been told & don't seem to be able to utilize common sense.
As I said earlier, to think that a difference makes no difference is irrational.
That does not even take into account that even if the contact patch was a consistent 3mm, a larger tip with a larger radius could go off the center line with less, shall we say, 'negative effects' than a smaller tip with a shorter radius.
With all due respects,
Rick
Ok. Thanks for your input.
Ron,
You may be correct regarding Neil's response but he quoted me... & seemed to be putting words in my mouth that I did not say as is so often the case with him.
I agree with you in general about a 13mm tip especially with a large radius, that is... if one is attempting to hit center vertical axis on the cue ball.
If one is intentional using english more often then a smaller tip may make the use a bit easier.
But in either case a low squirt shaft would make both more efficiently productive.
Best Wishes,
Rick
I too apologize if you feel that your thread was derailed.
It's just that you asked for a recommendation as though you perceived that there was a 'difference' & I agree with you.
Some. on the other hand. for whatever reason, see a difference as no difference.
My apologies,
Rick
Geezey pete, Rick. I never said YOU said anything about the bridge being sloppy, but someone else did. Which I addressed. Go ahead and call me irrational or whatever other names you want to come up with. Maybe if you weren't so nitpicky, you could see the forest for the trees and understand some of this stuff.
I am not going to reply as I want, as it would do little but derail the OP's thread further.
May God Bless You, Neil.
i enjoy following the back and forth you an Neil always seem to have going on...i find it entertaining :thumbup:
Well... I don't & I don't think Mr. Wilson does either.
What's your opinion about tip size for a newbie or a novice?
he shouldn't be worried about that at this point in time :wink:
I doubt that Neil is.
But why do you want to encourage he & I to get into it?
I wish a truce could be called, but I know that it would not last.
We just don't see eye to eye on the topics nor on how to discuss the topics.
What about your opinion on tip size for C or D level player?
the answer i gave was about my opinion on tip size, here it is again.
i just enjoy reading your opinions and Neils opinions on the same topics cause your two views always seem to clash and both usually make interesting points. i dont wont to see either one of you get in trouble.
you guys just have to learn how to debate one another without making it personal and you will good to go!
Am I reading that correctly? Are you saying that pro level players should be using 13 to 14 mm tips & beginners should be using 11.75 or less mm tips?
If so, could you give any reasoning to support that?