Prices for repairs

Kim Bye

Kim Bye

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I `m in a situation where I starting up changing tips, cleaning shafts, changing ferrules and other small stuff. I have some question about what to charge for tip change, cleaning and sealing a shaft etc.
What do you guys charge for stuff like that?
I`m also wondering how many brand of tips it`s common to stock (reasonable for the customer to expect...)

The tips I plan to stock is:
Kamui clear black/brown SS, S, M
G2 S, M
Navigator S, M
Zan Premium S
Zan S, M
Triangle
LePro
Samsara break tip
Mezz Sonic tip
I will also stock the Taom tips, when they become available.

Does that seem like a broad enough selection?
I have had no requests for tips harder than Medium, so I wan`t stock any before I get a request.
 
Kim Bye said:
I `m in a situation where I starting up changing tips, cleaning shafts, changing ferrules and other small stuff. I have some question about what to charge for tip change, cleaning and sealing a shaft etc.
What do you guys charge for stuff like that?
I`m also wondering how many brand of tips it`s common to stock (reasonable for the customer to expect...)

The tips I plan to stock is:
Kamui clear black/brown SS, S, M
G2 S, M
Navigator S, M
Zan Premium S
Zan S, M
Triangle
LePro
Samsara break tip
Mezz Sonic tip
I will also stock the Taom tips, when they become available.

Does that seem like a broad enough selection?
I have had no requests for tips harder than Medium, so I wan`t stock any before I get a request.
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Check a few internet sites that advertise repairs and look at their prices then adjust for your customers and geographical area..................

Kim
 
I look at my shop rate, how long it takes me to replace a tip, and the cost of the tip. I guarantee all my tip installs for life, so I add 50% of the cost of the tip. YMMV
I fail to understand why you wouldn't stock all of Tom's UltraSkin tips - all my customers love them - even those who thought they HAD to have a Kamui or a Moori.

My 2 cents,
Gary
 
GBCues said:
I look at my shop rate, how long it takes me to replace a tip, and the cost of the tip. I guarantee all my tip installs for life, so I add 50% of the cost of the tip. YMMV
I fail to understand why you wouldn't stock all of Tom's UltraSkin tips - all my customers love them - even those who thought they HAD to have a Kamui or a Moori.

My 2 cents,
Gary
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Mostly because Norwegians have not heard about Ultraskin tips.They rather pay for the brands they have heard about.
 
Kim Bye said:
Mostly because Norwegians have not heard about Ultraskin tips.They rather pay for the brands they have heard about.
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someone has to break the mold :) You have got to start telling them about UltraSkin tips. So far it looks like the closest place they can try how these tips play is Moscow :grin:
Once your customers see they can get a good product at lower price most of them are likely to convert to UltraSkin tips. They are offered in 6 varieties!
 
Kim Bye said:
Mostly because Norwegians have not heard about Ultraskin tips.They rather pay for the brands they have heard about.
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You are right but is up to you to introduce a good thing for all concern :) They'll love you for it!

Mario
 
Kim Bye said:
The tips I plan to stock is:
Kamui clear black/brown SS, S, M
G2 S, M
Navigator S, M
Zan Premium S
Zan S, M
Triangle
LePro
Samsara break tip
Mezz Sonic tip
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Stock some non-Clear Kamui's too. Do not stock any Zan or G2 until you can verify people use then around you. Same for Navigators. Add to the list a box of Elkmasters and Triangles. Stay away from Moori tips unless you are absolutely sure they aren't fakes. Get some black canvas phenolic for your break ferrules/tips.

As for pricing, average lathe rates seem to be around $50/hour for experienced people. So time yourself on a few installs and see how long it takes you. But as a standard, most prices per install are between $10-15, then add the cost of the tip. Round up to the nearest $5. No idea how that relates to your currency.
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I have started ordering the basic stuff I need to set up a small repair shop and I have figured out reasonable prices for my services.
I`m wondering if you guys have a markup on tips or do you buy/sell them at market price?

This is what I`m stocking to start with:

Zan Premium Soft
Zan S/M
Moori S/M
G2 S/M
Tiger Emerald
Kamui black Clear SS/S/M
Kamui original clear SS/S/M
Le Pro
Triangle
Elk Master

I`m stocking these Jump/break tips:

Taom
Samsara
Mezz Sonic tip

Ferrules I`m offering:
Juma
Elforyn
Aegis II
G 10

Shaft cleaning/polish products from Unique.
Right now I`m using Loctite ultra gel glue, that seems to be working fine for regular tips, but I have had one Samsara tip come off (he played with it for a month or so first.)
I`m wondering if I should use another type of glue for J/B tips or if there is any other tricks you guys know?
 
SpiderWeb said:
You can always tell a norwegian, but you cant tell them much.
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Not sure what to make of that. But I have to start somewhere and if it's a viable business I can start selling other products.
 
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Vahmurka said:
someone has to break the mold :) You have got to start telling them about UltraSkin tips. So far it looks like the closest place they can try how these tips play is Moscow :grin:
Once your customers see they can get a good product at lower price most of them are likely to convert to UltraSkin tips. They are offered in 6 varieties!
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I have Ultraskin Tips in Haugesund, Norway. That is slightly closer to Oslo, Norway than Moscow, Russia :-)

I guess I have about 15; a couple S and some more M and H. Just send me a pm if you are interested.

-Jon Birger
 
Kim Bye said:
Thanks for the advice guys. I have started ordering the basic stuff I need to set up a small repair shop and I have figured out reasonable prices for my services.
I`m wondering if you guys have a markup on tips or do you buy/sell them at market price?

This is what I`m stocking to start with:

Zan Premium Soft
Zan S/M
Moori S/M
G2 S/M
Tiger Emerald
Kamui black Clear SS/S/M
Kamui original clear SS/S/M
Le Pro
Triangle
Elk Master

I`m stocking these Jump/break tips:

Taom
Samsara
Mezz Sonic tip

Ferrules I`m offering:
Juma
Elforyn
Aegis II
G 10

Shaft cleaning/polish products from Unique.
Right now I`m using Loctite ultra gel glue, that seems to be working fine for regular tips, but I have had one Samsara tip come off (he played with it for a month or so first.)
I`m wondering if I should use another type of glue for J/B tips or if there is any other tricks you guys know?
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I sell pretty much every well known tip there is in my webshop and can track back what I have
sold since 2008. Quite a few of the tipsyou plan to stock are not even in the top 30.

Kamui Black S
Kamui Black M
Elkmaster
G2 M
Ultraskin M
Kamui Black SS
Triangle
Wizard M
Kamui Black H
Lepro

Are the top 10 selling playing tips I have sold (I left out a few that are no longer available like Super Pro and Oinkers).
Consider that Utraskin has only been onthe market for around 2 years but allready well in the top 10.

Jump/Break

Samsara
White Diamond
Mezz Sonic
G10

gr. Dave
 
Don't forget to stock up on black canvas phenolic rod for ferrules and tips, and sometimes shaft thread inserts.
 
Double-Dave said:
I sell pretty much every well known tip there is in my webshop and can track back what I have
sold since 2008. Quite a few of the tipsyou plan to stock are not even in the top 30.

Kamui Black S
Kamui Black M
Elkmaster
G2 M
Ultraskin M
Kamui Black SS
Triangle
Wizard M
Kamui Black H
Lepro

Are the top 10 selling playing tips I have sold (I left out a few that are no longer available like Super Pro and Oinkers).
Consider that Utraskin has only been onthe market for around 2 years but allready well in the top 10.

Jump/Break

Samsara
White Diamond
Mezz Sonic
G10

gr. Dave
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Your list looks alot like mine to me. The two brands thats not on your list is Moori and Zan.
Anyways this is just something to get me started. I guess I will find out pretty quick, which brands sell and wich don't.
(btw I`ll be ordering some Mezz break tips from you later this week :) )
 
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Guys thanks for pointing out that Kamui clears needs a thin glue like Loctite 401 and not a gel type glue.
That`s what is great about this forum :)
 
I'd also recommend you buy some break&jump "Select" tips by MadMan. They have too many advantages ;)
 
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