Could Stan clarify this statement in his video

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cookie man,

Are you saying that if you put the balls in my Big Blue Sky hypothetical with no rails & no pockets & no intentions & no other input other than to apply the method totally objectively you would still get different outcome angles?

Go back to the 5 shot example you refuse to understand.

Where you stand for shot 1, and where you stand for shot 5 are going to be totally different.

That's your perception.

The visuals are going to be the same across the board, but the perception will vary for each shot. VISUALS DO NOT EQUAL PERCEPTION. It's the difference in perception that leads to the different cut angles.

What influences the perception? The location of the balls and all components of the 2x1 table.

Are the locations of the CB and OB objective? Check.
Are the rails and pockets objective? Check.
Will you continue to grasp at straws? Check.
 
Okay then.

Do you agree that if done in my Big Blue Sky Hypothetical as outlined that the resulting angle would be consistently the same time after time after time?

Holy glazed donuts, Batman. How dense can one person be?

You ask him a question. He says, no. Then you go and ask the exact same question again.

Give it up, Rick. You aren't fooling anyone. I'll set the line at 2 months before you're on vacation again.
 
I have come to agree with what you say here as fans very often overlook & refuse to see the faults about that which they are fans.

But...please keep in mind that the question in dispute is not whether CTE is working but WHY it is working. At least it is for me & I think Anthony & perhaps Colin & maybe others too.

If it's working for you or anyone else then you really don't care why it's working.

I've decided for myself that it does not work as described & hence I am not interested in using it as there are other more simple methods that work just as well yet have the same shortcomings IMO that CTE has.

That's great. Based upon your posting, it is easy to understand why it isn't working for you and never will. With that said, why then don't you just drop all your constant crap about it and quit trying to have your "logical" discussions when you have ZERO fact or logic base to discuss it from? Oops, that is a rhetorical question now isn't it? We know why you keep doing it as you simply enjoy trolling, baiting and picking a fight.
 
Personally, I think anyone that wants a 100% totally objective system or method will be disappointed as I was.

But that does not mean that it can not improve what they may be doing now.

If anyone is interested then perhaps they should purchase it & make up their own minds.

Or they can watch Stan's YouTube videos & decide if it is something that they want to purchase or not. That is certainly up to each individual as it should be.

OR .......

They can make their own judgment on what to do versus listening to ravings from someone who has absolutely no clue.

What's the deal Rick? You can't stand it that Stan has repeatedly put you in your place while CJ, on one occasion, gave you some minor compliment that puffed you all up. It's absolutely hilarious how you are dude.
 
Greg,

IMO the difference is:

TOI works as CJ describes it as do some other things that he says.

How about you posting a video of you hitting those 5 shots using TOI? You blab about TOI, I'll bet you have very little capabilities using TOI. You like it because of who your hero is.
 
Hi Anthony,

We've said it seemingly many times in different ways yet some just can't seem to see it or won't admit it for some reasons which may vary with each individual.

Some won't even enter into an honest & logical discussion.

I think you & I keep coming back because we can not believe that any reasonably educated individual can not see & understand what is so extremely logical & real.

I very serious doubt that anyone will be able to convince those here on the other side of this disagreement BUT... I think those like you & I should continue to put the rationality of what is actually happening out there for those that may be interested so they can see both sides & then make their own determination & decision as to how they wish to proceed.

Anyway, that is what I have decided. I am going to very much try to disengage with those here & simply make general statements for the purpose of assisting others that may be reading these forum threads.

Best to Y'a,
Rick


Its baffling Rick. I don't care as much as some might think, sooner or later they'll realize we was just trying to help.:smile:

If the truth was known , their the troll's..silly a$$ people.:D
 
dude! this debate that you 'think' you are having with pro1 users, in reality you are just having with yourself, english and a few others :) when are u going to understated this lol there is 100% nothing you can tell a experience users about the system lol when are u going to get it , your very amusing how smart you think you are about the system lmfao :)

Shut up stoopid.:)
 
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Its baffling Rick. I don't care as much as some might think, sooner or later they'll realize we was just trying to help.:smile:

If the truth was known , their the troll's..silly a$$ people.:D

Well, I had hoped that you just really did not understand it, and wanted it clarified. Guess I was wrong. Since I explained in detail the answers to your questions, and for that I get called a troll and a silly ass person. Guess the joke is on me. I hadn't put you in the same category as Rick, that was my mistake. It's now corrected. ;):rolleyes:
 
Its baffling Rick. I don't care as much as some might think, sooner or later they'll realize we was just trying to help.:smile:

If the truth was known , their the troll's..silly a$$ people.:D

Anthony,

Not only do they not see that but they seem to fail to realise that we probably represent 50% of more of the population out there that either has a logical mind &/or common sense.

There is something else too. Check your PMs.
 
Anthony,

Not only do they not see that but they seem to fail to realise that we probably represent 50% of more of the population out there that either has a logical mind &/or common sense.

There is something else too. Check your PMs.
Yet you yourself cover over 80% of the posts against CTE. I hope I don't get old and have nothing better to do than spew out the same BS over and over and over again.

I feel your pain.
 
How about you posting a video of you hitting those 5 shots using TOI? You blab about TOI, I'll bet you have very little capabilities using TOI. You like it because of who your hero is.

I'll give you 25 dollars just to post a video of you making the 5 shots that have been discussed on here.(with pro1) You owe me nothing.
 
Anthony,

Not only do they not see that but they seem to fail to realise that we probably represent 50% of more of the population out there that either has a logical mind &/or common sense.

There is something else too. Check your PMs.

What do we fail to see Rick? We understand the system, we have described the system, we have shown you exactly where you and Anthony are wrong in your assumptions of the system and it's wording, we have shown where you have no desire to actually discuss it, we have shown where you have no logic behind your statements, we have shown you with your own words where your only desire is to troll. Did I miss anything?

I can't help but imagine that if Wilson were to look at your pm's, which he can do, you would be barred for life. All you do is act like a child while trying to claim being an adult and logical. There is no logic in what you are doing to the forums.
 
I'll give you 25 dollars just to post a video of you making the 5 shots that have been discussed on here.(with pro1) You owe me nothing.

Be a good little Rick puppet and don't even address the post of yours that I answered in detail, Anthony. You have shown your true colors. Really sad, I had you way above that.

All your questions have been answered in detail to anyones satisfaction that has any desire to learn. But, be a good rick puppet and ask the same old questions again. Leave no doubt in anyones mind of what and who you really are.;)
 
I'll give you 25 dollars just to post a video of you making the 5 shots that have been discussed on here.(with pro1) You owe me nothing.

I imagine that he would ask you to post, after you have shown your dishonesty in this thread.:rolleyes:
 
I got more honesty then most ;), could you please point to where Ive been dishonest?

In acting in the guise of serious questions about CTE, then when given the answers, you sluff it off and accuse those of helping of being nothing more than trolls. You never had any intention of understanding CTE as given. Yet you posted as though you just had problems with the wording of it. Totally dishonest. You never had any intention of understanding or gaining knowledge about it. Only to belittle that which you know not of. That put's you as an equal of Rick in my mind.
 
What do we fail to see Rick? We understand the system, we have described the system, we have shown you exactly where you and Anthony are wrong in your assumptions of the system and it's wording, we have shown where you have no desire to actually discuss it, we have shown where you have no logic behind your statements, we have shown you with your own words where your only desire is to troll. Did I miss anything?

I can't help but imagine that if Wilson were to look at your pm's, which he can do, you would be barred for life. All you do is act like a child while trying to claim being an adult and logical. There is no logic in what you are doing to the forums.

You say you take offense to my reference to omniscience yet you continually & incorrectly assume much.

I take offense to very much that you say regarding me as you want me to do. We know what that is.

I have been advised by AZB personnel that I should Ignore YOU or words to that effect. I think that is a bit telling. I also think that it is sound advice & perhaps not just for me.

Anyway I am going to put my hope springing eternal for you on hold. I will still pray for you though.

Merry Christmas.
 
I'll give you 25 dollars just to post a video of you making the 5 shots that have been discussed on here.(with pro1) You owe me nothing.

$25? LMAO that wouldn't come close to covering my time. I also wouldn't trust you to pay me, you haven't exactly impressed me with your integrity. Make it worth my time and send the money upfront to a reliable third party and I'll be glad to do it. Even more, I'll do it with CTE visibly showing a mechanical pivot so you can't claim I'm "adjusting". However, if you prefer I use Pro One, that's fine as well.
 
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