I'd play any pro race to 50 for $20. Winner pays table time.
What kind of spot would you need to play a pro for money?
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I'll remember that, and let em know.
10 ball
race to 13
I get 4 games on the wire and the breaks
8 ball
there is no spot big enough
one pocket (assuming some at Frosty, or Alex's speed)
race to 4
11/6 race
race to 13
I get 4 games on the wire and the breaks
8 ball
there is no spot big enough
one pocket (assuming some at Frosty, or Alex's speed)
race to 4
11/6 race
Orange Crush playing nineball and I will try anyone... Im sure I wont like it still with most of those guys.
I sometimes wonder how much of a spot I'd need to get to be willing to play a pro for money.
Note: this thread is purely fictional because it's widely known in my town (and by some on this very forum) that I am a complete nit.
...for now.
If you had to challenge a pro to play for money who would it be, what would kind of spot would you ask for and what game would you pick?
Likely the breaks, ball in hand after the break (or ability to move the cueball a hand width a few times a rack) and probably the 6 or last 3. Game, I'd have to say 9 ball just because of the easier break for me.
I've seen quite a few pro players play C and B and A players, mostly B players in person, they usually get the breaks and the 5 ball. I've seen the pro lose that way also so that is likely a pretty even spot.
I think your over rating that break unless your playing 8 ball
The break is the 1st thing I give someone that wants weight in a rotation game
yep
Unless the player can get out almost every time he is supposed to and fairly often when it is a tough table then giving the break is no spot at all, maybe the opposite. Some people, I prefer to give them the break to clear up some of the traffic on the table knowing their chances of running out are ten percent or less.
This can backfire if the person is smart enough to run out to a lock-up safety but almost without exception the male players are too aggressive for their own good. The ladies play a smarter game in my opinion.
Hu
Unless the player can get out almost every time he is supposed to and fairly often when it is a tough table then giving the break is no spot at all, maybe the opposite. Some people, I prefer to give them the break to clear up some of the traffic on the table knowing their chances of running out are ten percent or less.
This can backfire if the person is smart enough to run out to a lock-up safety but almost without exception the male players are too aggressive for their own good. The ladies play a smarter game in my opinion.
Hu
I think coming up with a shot on the 1 after the break too tough to be an advantage. Add the scratch once in a while and it's tough to make the break an advantage
I don't think you are factoring in how much of a difference there is between a pro and you as opposed to you and someone you would give weight to.
If you play winner breaks vs a pro you will need quite a bit more weight because you will rarely see the table when they break unless it is dry or a scratch which doesn't happen too often. They will either run out or put you in jail continuously.
If I were to match up with a strong shortstop or better, I am asking for the breaks before talking about any ball weight.
I understand the theory 100% but I had rather take my chances of making a ball on the break (which is more times than not for me). If a ball is made then I have the advantage even if I have to "push out". If I do have a decent shot, I will not try to run out unless I'm
80% or better sure that I will get out. I am more safety minded than most players, so if I can't get out, I'm locking ya up (best safety possible of course).
Don't mis-understand me, I've gave players the break as part of their spot. But it's according to their speed of play. Like someone else commented, if I know their not going to run out very often then it's not much of a spot. Being in a little higher percentage rate than 10% of running out is also a factor!!!!
I just feel this gives me a better chance versus letting a world beater break and run out.
Just my humble opinion.....:thumbup:
we are all looking at things the same way
I replied to Pete's post about spotting other players. When playing a top player I want the breaks too. Not so much because of what I can do with the breaks but because of the damage he can do if he breaks. As was said, play a top pro and except on a dry break or scratch, neither one of which is happening too often, if a much lesser player gets a look at the table it is probably going to take a big shot to get a run started.
I rarely break dry playing nine ball. Might not have a shot on the one but then I do have the option of a push. Better me starting the game in control of the table than a pro. If I have to push or play a safety it is going to be something likely to get me back to the table in better shape than before I played the last shot.
If you look at the stats that atLarge puts up backing things out a bit you will see that the break is a disadvantage for the pro's when playing other pro's except when they break and run. That shouldn't be true, wouldn't be true if the men pro's considered the table and when to duck more carefully.
Hu
I replied to Pete's post about spotting other players. When playing a top player I want the breaks too. Not so much because of what I can do with the breaks but because of the damage he can do if he breaks. As was said, play a top pro and except on a dry break or scratch, neither one of which is happening too often, if a much lesser player gets a look at the table it is probably going to take a big shot to get a run started.
I rarely break dry playing nine ball. Might not have a shot on the one but then I do have the option of a push. Better me starting the game in control of the table than a pro. If I have to push or play a safety it is going to be something likely to get me back to the table in better shape than before I played the last shot.
If you look at the stats that atLarge puts up backing things out a bit you will see that the break is a disadvantage for the pro's when playing other pro's except when they break and run. That shouldn't be true, wouldn't be true if the men pro's considered the table and when to duck more carefully.
Hu
three gotchas would work too
I'd play any of the pro's that would spot me three gotchas too.
I'd wait a game or two and when he was down on a shot requiring a lot of focus I would ease up behind him and give him a boot in the butt just hard enough to make him flop on the pool table like a bullfrog hit with a .22 rifle. "That's one."
A few games later I would do it again but quite a bit harder, maybe hard enough that his butt hit the light. "That's two."
I'd save the last gotcha. Anybody that can beat me while he is expecting that third gotcha at any moment while he is in his stance deserves to win!
Hu
I'd play any of the pro's that would spot me three gotchas too.
I'd wait a game or two and when he was down on a shot requiring a lot of focus I would ease up behind him and give him a boot in the butt just hard enough to make him flop on the pool table like a bullfrog hit with a .22 rifle. "That's one."
A few games later I would do it again but quite a bit harder, maybe hard enough that his butt hit the light. "That's two."
I'd save the last gotcha. Anybody that can beat me while he is expecting that third gotcha at any moment while he is in his stance deserves to win!
Hu