"Pinning"
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I call it digging into the cue ball. I'll use it on a slower bar box more, but I use it on the 9 footers, too.
I'd call it a stroke to apply "quick" spin to the cue ball without a lot of speed or power added. It makes a sharp noise and sometimes sounds like an almost miscue. I like to use it to get less cue ball deflection after hitting the object ball on draw shots, in order to get the cue ball to back up sooner.
I also use it to get extreme english on softer strokes. With a slight cue elevation, you can get some good swerve on thin cuts, inside or outside. :grin-square:
Best,
Mike
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As with virtually everything else CJ says, I simply have no idea.
"Pinning" is similar to a Japanese martial arts punching technique
Pinning is done by using the top, "knife edge" of the tip with the acceleration exactly at the ball. It's lethal to "stun," draw, or put "quick english" on the cue ball - it is best suited for slower or worn cloth. This requires a very precise motion with the hand and wrist immediately at cue ball contact.
"Pinning" is similar to a Japanese martial arts punching technique - put your fist 15 degrees in and 30 degrees down and hit with two knuckles, rotating your hand at impact. This uses less mass, however the results are piercing and can do severe damage. Of course with pool you don't rotate your hand, it's done with your wrist/finger release.
Efren does this on a regular basis and you can hear his cue make a high pitched sound. Anyone that doesn't know what he's doing would think his cue might be broken.
This may seem easy to do, however, it's not a beginner/intermediate technique. Road players that I've been around use the TOI and Pinning techniques together. The cue ball contact is more precise, which, in effect, makes the TOI (or TOO) more effective.
Pinning is done by using the top, "knife edge" of the tip with the acceleration exactly at the ball. It's lethal to "stun," draw, or put "quick english" on the cue ball - it is best suited for slower or worn cloth. This requires a very precise motion with the hand and wrist immediately at cue ball contact.
"Pinning" is similar to a Japanese martial arts punching technique - put your fist 15 degrees in and 30 degrees down and hit with two knuckles, rotating your hand at impact. This uses less mass, however the results are piercing and can do severe damage. Of course with pool you don't rotate your hand, it's done with your wrist/finger release.
Efren does this on a regular basis and you can hear his cue make a high pitched sound. Anyone that doesn't know what he's doing would think his cue might be broken.
This may seem easy to do, however, it's not a beginner/intermediate technique. Road players that I've been around use the TOI and Pinning techniques together. The cue ball contact is more precise, which, in effect, makes the TOI (or TOO) more effective.
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Pinning is done by using the top, "knife edge" of the tip with the acceleration exactly at the ball. It's lethal to "stun," draw, or put "quick english" on the cue ball - it is best suited for slower or worn cloth. This requires a very precise motion with the hand and wrist immediately at cue ball contact.
"Pinning" is similar to a Japanese martial arts punching technique - put your fist 15 degrees in and 30 degrees down and hit with two knuckles, rotating your hand at impact. This uses less mass, however the results are piercing and can do severe damage. Of course with pool you don't rotate your hand, it's done with your wrist/finger release.
Efren does this on a regular basis and you can hear his cue make a high pitched sound. Anyone that doesn't know what he's doing would think his cue might be broken.
This may seem easy to do, however, it's not a beginner/intermediate technique. Road players that I've been around use the TOI and Pinning techniques together. The cue ball contact is more precise, which, in effect, makes the TOI (or TOO) more effective.
Billiard players make the big ball hum doing this. Like bankers, most of them use a short, quick stroke.
When I went around with Bobby Cotton, he showed it to me. We were playing a lot of bar boxes and moving the big ball was tough on the slower cloth.
Later, Dallas West showed me a similar, but slightly different stroke that I learned for the 9 footers. If you've ever watched him play 9 ball, you see it, but it's hard to pick up on what he's doing with the cue ball. More like what CJ does, with a different grip.
I matched up with him a couple of times, played him in tourneys a couple more times and couldn't get there! So, I decided to learn from him. I figured it would be the cheaper route with his game. :grin-square:
I started a thread about this years ago and took a beating from the forum about this kind of "stuff". Maybe we can actually talk about it and figure it out, this time.
Best,
Mike
I did a bit of this back in the day of the mud ball & have just started doing a bit of it again since I started playing a bit of one pocket lately.
Normally I keep my cue as close to level as possible but since using my newly found dominant left eye & staying focused on the object ball when going down, my head is not getting as low as I normally would & that has also gotten my cue a bit more on an angle so it's a bit easy to sort of pin the ball sometimes.
It's really kind of 'funny' to me how sometimes one thing just naturally leads to another & then there is the coincidence of the timing of subjects here on AZB.
Best 2 All,
Rick
Normally I keep my cue as close to level as possible but since using my newly found dominant left eye & staying focused on the object ball when going down, my head is not getting as low as I normally would & that has also gotten my cue a bit more on an angle so it's a bit easy to sort of pin the ball sometimes.
It's really kind of 'funny' to me how sometimes one thing just naturally leads to another & then there is the coincidence of the timing of subjects here on AZB.
Best 2 All,
Rick
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So pinning is a short, quick stroke that puts immediate action on the cueball without sliding first? I do this but didn't know what is was called? I thought the term had to do with the object ball but that's why I asked. CJ,, do I have to come to Texas for lessons?.
Kenny Brisbon used this technique to perfection to win the U S amatuers this year.