How would you play this
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Id call the 1 ball and play the 2 -1 combo with follow expecting to miss it and roll the cueball up so he has to bank the 15 and hope he misses it.
Probably the wrong shot...
I would like to say I would shoot the 2 with some low left and hook him behind the 8 but I would probably miss the safe and sell out.
Probably the wrong shot...
I would like to say I would shoot the 2 with some low left and hook him behind the 8 but I would probably miss the safe and sell out.
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Opponent won't miss the bank, strong player that banks above average. This was a hill/hill game to win the winners side.
I would like to say I would shoot the 2 with some low left and hook him behind the 8 but I would probably miss the safe and sell out. Try to get the CB as close to the back rail as possible in case I miss the hook I left him long as possible with tougher cueball striking options.
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Same thing, but may choose to cut the 2 a hair to roll the cb to about the 1. Good banker or not, a dead even middle of the rail bank from off a rail is about the best you're going to get from here, unless you've got precision accuracy for the spin behind the 8. Though, if you have that, you have the combo and shouldn't be asking this question.
even the pros miss banks. I would play the same shot playing all cue ball to get up to the short rail leaving him a bank with position for the match on the wrong side on the ball. Not knowing all the details my second option would be (depending on the exact position of the 2 ball) slow roll up against the 2 and either leave him hooked or having to shoot from the rail.
If a guy gets out from a tough spot that i left him then he definitely deserves the match cause he came with it, that's my take...
how did you play it?
If a guy gets out from a tough spot that i left him then he definitely deserves the match cause he came with it, that's my take...
how did you play it?
This is my shot too. I would try to leave the cue ball where he has to bank the 15 in the corner and doesn't have a cut on the 15. Reason being that if he hasto bank in the corner, you have the possibility of hanging the 1 or having the 1 block the bank in some other way.
How about just softly roll up on the 2? If you play it right you could easily get him hooked between the rail and the edge of the 2 ball. from there he has to kick toward the short rail going either one or two rails to the 15. even if you don't hit it perfect you probably leave a moderate length cut from off the rail where cue ball control could be iffy.
The only other shot I can see although I think it is much lower percentage is to bank the 2 ball toward the corner pocket where the 15 is (looks possible) and try to get the cue ball behind the 8 (that might not be possible with that angle). You have to hit it perfect to not sell out on this one.
The only other shot I can see although I think it is much lower percentage is to bank the 2 ball toward the corner pocket where the 15 is (looks possible) and try to get the cue ball behind the 8 (that might not be possible with that angle). You have to hit it perfect to not sell out on this one.
This is definitely the right shot assuming you're close enough to judge the speed and it looks like you are. It's a very common one in 8ball too. The back-up plan isn't that bad either - if your safety leaks, you'll be leaving your opponent long and on the rail. You can't ask for much more than that.
On a level table, that might be the play. This table rolls. The direction of roll is not specified but if it turns to to be surprisingly to the left, the OP hits the cushion first and gets no rail. With the 2 ball that close to the cushion, there is not much margin for error on either the speed or the angle.
If you're worried about a bad roll, your only real option is to go down swinging. Bank the 2 in the side pocket, go three rails and run out.
Attempt to bank the 2 under the stripe to possibly block it while pulling the cue ball back towards the end rail behind the 8 trying to leave him hooked or at worse straight in and on the rail. I would be focusing more on getting the cue ball to the rail. If the 2 rolls too far to block the stripe then so be it.
Tough spot for sure. If it is a bar box I might be inclined to go for a difficult offensive shot instead of trying the hard defensive shot since long doesn't really exist on a bar table.
Ken
Tough spot for sure. If it is a bar box I might be inclined to go for a difficult offensive shot instead of trying the hard defensive shot since long doesn't really exist on a bar table.
Ken
Bob, could you kick behind the 2 ball stopping the cue ball there and sending the 2 ball toward the 15-ball? Just thinking?
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Honestly, I'd play this shot with draw and aim for the second diamond on the 8-ball side of the table. Try to freeze the CB to the rail and hide behind the 8. Plus, the angle you're hitting the two ball at would send it pretty close to the 15 as well.
I gotta get to a table and try this out.
It's a lot harder for me to table from the pic instead of at the table but there's also a safety where you thin the two ball and hit the CB with a little low right to freeze them together. It's a touchy touchy shot that I was shown by a AA and have practiced since then. This option looks available but it's still very hard to tell.
I gotta get to a table and try this out.
It's a lot harder for me to table from the pic instead of at the table but there's also a safety where you thin the two ball and hit the CB with a little low right to freeze them together. It's a touchy touchy shot that I was shown by a AA and have practiced since then. This option looks available but it's still very hard to tell.
I can't get a break, but anyway.
I still say that pushing up against the 2 is a good or better option with the info given, due to the lack thereof in most of these leagues (if that what this is) there is no ball in hand reward, at least i've seen that a few times so even if "the roll of the table" gets you that just puts you on one, He's still either hooked, trying to go 3 rails with a good stroke off the rail or settling for a long cut on the 8 which being BB is not that bad since i'm going to say this in not a diamond.
I still say that pushing up against the 2 is a good or better option with the info given, due to the lack thereof in most of these leagues (if that what this is) there is no ball in hand reward, at least i've seen that a few times so even if "the roll of the table" gets you that just puts you on one, He's still either hooked, trying to go 3 rails with a good stroke off the rail or settling for a long cut on the 8 which being BB is not that bad since i'm going to say this in not a diamond.
kick the 2 in the corner box, blocking the 15.
stun the cueball into the rail as close a possible where the 2 started.
stun the cueball into the rail as close a possible where the 2 started.