Fear of Feel

SpiderWebComm said:
Like I said, where the f is my money? Seems like when the chips get pushed, Spidey gets air barreled, the room gets quiet and the pms roll in begging spidey to let a certain person out.
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I know nothing about your bets Spidey. Do I or PJ owe you and what for?

If you send me your bank & account name, account number, pin number and amount owed, I'll fix it up for you pronto. :grin:

Colin > Might soon change name to Juan Mahoney.
 
Colin Colenso said:
I know nothing about your bets Spidey. Do I or PJ owe you and what for?

If you send me your bank & account name, account number, pin number and amount owed, I'll fix it up for you pronto. :grin:

Colin > Might soon change name to Juan Mahoney.
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PJ air barreled for a 2k or 3k bet years ago, which he now knows he 100% lost. He mia'd from azb for a month or so and then no hablo ingles when he came back.

Edit: he also bet his junk $300 cue and a self-inflicted perma-ban.
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
stan shuffett said:
That diagram isn't even geometrically correct as it doesn't account for 3D visualization and convergence illusions.
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Hence every diagram ever produced in the hundreds of billiard instructional books in history ought to be burned, now that we have a totally undiagrammable perfect system which only those who know can understand but not explain?

Call me a conservative, but maybe they have some value, albeit historical.

Colin
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Well, the CTE Swat Team has arrived to derail another thread, apparently because it wasn't about them - can't have that. Never should have tried to invade "their" forum, I guess.

Interesting while it lasted...

pj
chgo
 
Colin Colenso said:
SpiderWebComm said:
Hence every diagram ever produced in the hundreds of billiard instructional books in history ought to be burned, now that we have a totally undiagrammable perfect system which only those who know can understand but not explain?

Call me a conservative, but maybe they have some value, albeit historical.

Colin
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I guess they're historical, you got that part right.
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SpiderWebComm said:
PJ air barreled for a 2k or 3k bet years ago, which he now knows he 100% lost. He mia'd from azb for a month or so and then no hablo ingles when he came back.

Edit: he also bet his junk $300 cue and a self-inflicted perma-ban.
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Doesn't air barreling infer that a challenge had been undertaken? Not backing out of a challenge. As I know zero details, perhaps you can enlighten.

Cheers,
Colin
 
ENGLISH! said:
So Patrick,

What if one were to make a pivot from 1/2 tip parallel to both sides of the 'aiming alignment' shots? How much would that fill in for the uncovered angles?

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

PS I'd guess adding 10 angles & the pocket margin for error might leave about 40% still uncovered. Am I close?
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Good Morning Patrick,

Before you take you leave, would you care to address my question above?

Thanks,
Rick

PS If not, that's okay.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
stan shuffett said:
I've never seen that video, but I've posted this graphic in the past.

Again, Stan, it isn't always about you.

pj
chgo
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I find it very very hard to believe that you have not viewed that video. The fact that you haven't, speaks volumes about you....You question me here but will not look at a presentation made about the topic on video. THE VIDEO WAS A MAJOR TOPIC OF A RECENT THREAD and you would not view it?

Stan Shuffett
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ENGLISH! said:
So Patrick,

What if one were to make a pivot from 1/2 tip parallel to both sides of the 'aiming alignment' shots? How much would that fill in for the uncovered angles?

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

PS I'd guess adding 10 angles & the pocket margin for error might leave about 40% still uncovered. Am I close?
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Rick,

Hope you'll welcome a few of my insights on this issue.

If all such angles are done as 1/2 tip pivots, then all it does is move the same angles across.

But, without descriptions of the length of pivot, then they aren't systematic.

That said, on most shots, about 8 angles from straight to fine cut suffice to make a ball in a pocket, as most players shoot at balls that are within 18 inches from a pocket.

Some shots require finer tuned accuracy, a lot do not.

Hitting a CB from a 3 or less inches from a rail on a snooker table, 3 feet from pocket, with approx 3mm margin for error requires high accuracy. Unless you have a way of dividing an aim point on the OB into 50ths or thereabouts, then you'll need intuitive judgement to make these shots.

Colin
 
SpiderWebComm said:
PJ made the bet, I called, we each said bet...and then I got air barreled.
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Well, he definitely owes you imho, because something not referred to didn't happen, other than the air barreling.

I'm guessing a jury of CTE peers would send him to the chair!

Colin < Starting to think that I've only learned 2D logic which lacks perspective, convergence and objective physical and visual intelligence.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Rick,

Hope you'll welcome a few of my insights on this issue.

If all such angles are done as 1/2 tip pivots, then all it does is move the same angles across.

But, without descriptions of the length of pivot, then they aren't systematic.

That said, on most shots, about 8 angles from straight to fine cut suffice to make a ball in a pocket, as most players shoot at balls that are within 18 inches from a pocket.

Some shots require finer tuned accuracy, a lot do not.

Hitting a CB from a 3 or less inches from a rail on a snooker table, 3 feet from pocket, with approx 3mm margin for error requires high accuracy. Unless you have a way of dividing an aim point on the OB into 50ths or thereabouts, then you'll need intuitive judgement to make these shots.

Colin
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Yeah Colin.

I hear you & perhaps that's why PJ did not respond.

There are too many variables that come into play & are actually subjective when it comes to making a pivot & arriving at a specific outcome angle.

Thanks for pointing that out.

So... I'd say that one is stuck with having to use what we 'define' as 'feel' whether one recognizes it or not or fears it or not.

Best 2 you & All,
Rick
 
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stan shuffett said:
Patrick Johnson said:
I find it very very hard to believe that you have not viewed that video. The fact that you haven't, speaks volumes about you....You question me here but will not look at a presentation made about the topic on video. THE VIDEO WAS A MAJOR TOPIC OF A RECENT THREAD and you would not view it?

Stan Shuffett
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Stan,

PJ's diagram, and various similar diagrams showing the range of efficiency of various fractional aiming systems have been a MAJOR discussion point for 20 years or so amongst the aiming interested community.

It wasn't a slight on any of your recent commentaries, although it posits some insights into how some may question aspects of CTE.

Not knowing that may speak volumes about you. But I wouldn't presume that.

Cheers,
Colin
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Colin Colenso said:
stan shuffett said:
Stan,

PJ's diagram, and various similar diagrams showing the range of efficiency of various fractional aiming systems have been a MAJOR discussion point for 20 years or so amongst the aiming interested community.

It wasn't a slight on any of your recent commentaries, although it posits some insights into how some may question aspects of CTE.

Not knowing that may speak volumes about you. But I wouldn't presume that.

Cheers,
Colin
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This discussion is nothing more than a veiled backdoor attempt to discredit REAL CTE. PJ does not care a rat's tail about fractions......it is apples and oranges. All that PJ can do is talk fractions to get at CTE because he sure as heck can not talk CTE.
If you cannot see what is going on here, then you are either blind or simply taking sides. Either way, I could care less about your input concerning PJ's integrity on this matter.

Stan Shuffett
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