Fear of Feel

[CJ Wiley]

I have a feeling some of the "TOI Critics" don't have much fun.

Hi E,

That is what TOI did for me. I now very rarely make any pre shot 'strokes'.

I think I only now do so when there is a bridge concern of some type.

To me, TOI makes the game simple & far less 'stressful' with less 'concerns', which allows one to 'play' more.:wink:

You Stay Well,
Rick

Yes, that's why it's called "a game," it's designed to have fun and enjoy the self expression.

I have a feeling some of the "TOI Critics" don't have much fun....playing pool or doing anything else......what do you think? :dance:

 

[AtLarge]

Yeah, a "World Championship" title, that now matter how hard I try, I can't find any info about it anywhere............was it an "invitational" (small field for benefit of TV production (ESPN), similar to TOC), who was in the field, was it recognized by the WPA, etc.

Even Mr. Google doesn't know anything about this tournament. Great win, though. Maybe CJ can give us the details.

To answer most of your questions, here is information I previously posted about that tournament.

• Because of the interest shown in this thread in the ESPN World Championship, and because of CJ's mentioning his "world" title so frequently on AzB, I decided to look up some facts about the event. Here's what I found (thanks Billiards Digest and Pool & Billiard Magazine).
  
  • The ESPN World Open 9-Ball Championships were played in Santa Rosa, CA in January, 1996.
  
  • This was an ESPN invitational, staged-for-TV event that had several components -- a pro-am celebrity event, a men's singles event, a women's singles event, a mixed-doubles event, and a playoff between the men's and women's winners. The "celebrities" were (largely or entirely) NBA and NFL cheerleaders.
  
  • This event did not replace the WPA World 9-Ball Championship. Oliver Ortmann was the recently crowned 1995 winner of that event, and Ralf Souquet would later become the 1996 WPA World 9-Ball Champion. Also later in 1996, Rudolfo Luat won the PBT World 9-Ball Championship.
  
  • These championships were held right between the break-away by a number of players from the men's PBT (Pro Billiards Tour) and the formation of CJ's PCA (Professional Cuesports Association). In fact, the PBT was holding its own event that same week (won by Efren Reyes), and their players did not participate in the ESPN event.
  
  • The format for the ESPN events was single elimination, alternating break, races to 7 in the singles and 5 in the doubles.
  
  • The number of pro players was 16 men and 16 women.
  
  • The order of finish in the men's singles event was:
  1st -- CJ Wiley
  2nd -- Oliver Ortmann;
  3rd-4th -- Earl Strickland and Allen Hopkins;
  5th-8th -- Steve Knight, Jose Parica, George San Souci, and Danny Medina;
  9th-16th -- Kyle Tafoya, Yasunari Itsuzaki, Tom Storm, Mika Immonen, Ismael Paez, Steve Moore, Billy Palmer, and Shannon Daulton.
  
  • CJ played 4 matches to win the singles title, beating Moore 7-2, San Souci 7-6, Strickland 7-6, and Ortmann 7-5.
  
  • Vivian Villarreal beat Allison Fisher 7-5 for the women's title.
  
  • CJ teamed with Loree Jon Jones to win the mixed doubles 5-0 over George San Souci and Linda McWhirt.
  
  • CJ defeated Villarreal 7-3 in the playoff for the men's and women's winners.
  
  • CJ's winnings for the week were $88,500 -- a $1,000 appearance fee in the pro-am, $20,000 for the men's singles win, $7,500 for the mixed doubles win, and $60,000 for his playoff win over Villarreal (she got $40,000!).
  
  • The total prize purse for the events was $313,000, said to be the largest to that point in the history of pro pool.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Sounds like you may suffer from premature etalkulation. :groucho:

One thing I don't do is post just to try to personally insult you. But then I'm not a world champion, so what do I know?

pj
chgo

 

[Patrick Johnson]

I have a feeling some of the "TOI Critics" don't have much fun....playing pool or doing anything else......what do you think?

I think getting personal to "defend" your product is unprofessional and counterproductive.

pj <- you asked
chgo

 

[DTL]

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Yes, that's why it's called "a game," it's designed to have fun and enjoy the self expression.

I have a feeling some of the "TOI Critics" don't have much fun....playing pool or doing anything else......what do you think? :dance:

Thanks for the chuckle, CJ.

Best to You & All,
Rick

 

[DTL]

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[(((Satori)))]

"Hi, CJ", "Thanks for the chuckle, CJ", "CJ's a REAL CHAMPION".................

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I looked at your attachment and thought of you reading AtLarge's post <<<< made me laugh

BTW, O. Ortman... good enough to win the WPA world championship but came in second to C.J. for the richest event ever soon after.

"But it wasn't a real world championship." - DTL


Oh hell, this place cracks me up.

 

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"Hi, CJ", "Thanks for the chuckle, CJ", "CJ's a REAL CHAMPION".................

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The only purpose that I...

& I am sure many readers can make of that post...

is that it is of nothing but a purely trolling nature...

looking to do nothing but incite an emotionally charged response from me...

Sorry but no thanks.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

"Hi, CJ", "Thanks for the chuckle, CJ", "CJ's a REAL CHAMPION".................

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Is that the WCT system?

Whine, cry and tantrum.

I have seen poolplayers use it before.

 

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[DTL]

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[(((Satori)))]

Small, but strong field no doubt........missing many of the greats at that time. Format was essentially a crapshoot.

The NBA playoffs are made up of a small but strong field, as are the nfl playoffs, mlb, etc.

Just admit it. the ESPN world championship was a great title that you yourself would be proud to hold.

 

[Neil]

The NBA playoffs are made up of a small but strong field, as are the nfl playoffs, mlb, etc.

Just admit it. the ESPN world championship was a great title that you yourself would be proud to hold.

Just because it had the word "world" and "championship" in the title does not make it an actual world championship. No more than having the word "open" in the title makes it an open tournament. It wasn't open, it was invite only for just 16 people.

Yes, it would be nice to win it, but there is no way one should be claiming it as a legit world championship title. Doing so is nothing more than a slap to the actual World Champion title holders.

 

[(((Satori)))]

Just because it had the word "world" and "championship" in the title does not make it an actual world championship. No more than having the word "open" in the title makes it an open tournament. It wasn't open, it was invite only for just 16 people.

Yes, it would be nice to win it, but there is no way one should be claiming it as a legit world championship title. Doing so is nothing more than a slap to the actual World Champion title holders.

There are fighters right now who know given the chance they could compete with and beat the UFC world champion but they are not invited for one reason or another so they dont get the chance. That doesnt take away from the fact that the UFC world champion is world class and earned the right to be called by many world champion.


Bottom line is C.J. won the world championship in a world class field and he was capable of beating anyone at that time. The fact that you try to discredit him makes you look bad... just saying.

 

[BeiberLvr]

I looked at your attachment and thought of you reading AtLarge's post <<<< made me laugh

BTW, O. Ortman... good enough to win the WPA world championship but came in second to C.J. for the richest event ever soon after.

"But it wasn't a real world championship." - DTL


Oh hell, this place cracks me up.

In a race to 7.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

There are fighters right now who know given the chance they could compete with and beat the UFC world champion but they are not invited for one reason or another so they dont get the chance. That doesnt take away from the fact that the UFC world champion is world class and earned the right to be called by many world champion.

Bottom line is C.J. won the world championship in a world class field and he was capable of beating anyone at that time. The fact that you try to discredit him makes you look bad... just saying.

Who might those fighters be and in which weight division since it would draw record crowds and revenues? Nobody kicks money in the a*s.

I think Neil has a lot more in common with CJ than a non player like Pat Johnson does. PJ comes from every angle he can manage to knock CJ yet has far less playing years and skill level to warrant challenging him compared to Neil. Do you have anything to say about that? Lets get posters and agenda in proper perspective. CJ was definitely world class.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

In a race to 7.

And alternate break.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

And alternate break.

And I just have to say. Is this a recognized world title. Yes or no.