Broken Shaft

I don't think you were being too nice. It was cool of him to offer to pay and it was cool if you said don't worry about it. The shaft was due to break you just happened to let him use it at the time. It sucks but it was not like he did anything wrong so I wouldn't have made him pay either.
 
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If I broke a borrowed shaft, I want to replace it.

..unless there was a flaw that we can agree on.
 
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peppersauce said:
It's a done deal so I'm not going to go back and ask him to cover half now. I know better than to let people use my cues though. It's like I have a black cloud over my head when it comes to cues. Something bad always happens. Granted, this is the worst thing that has happened though.

He didn't do anything differently than I do. Nothing sounded weird. He didn't even realize anything had happened until he started to walk away from the table.

What I find interesting about it is the shaft didn't split with the grain. It actually split up the shaft perpendicular to the grain. I don't mean across the shaft. The split starts at the joint and goes up the shaft, just perfectly 90 degrees from the grain lines. I figured the split would have followed the grain.

It's just a freak thing I guess.
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I like a person who sticks to his word, good for you.

So what are your plans on getting your cue fixed ?

Also who made the cue and what is the pin size ?
 
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peppersauce said:
No need to name the maker. I have nothing but respect for the man and the great work he does. He's known worldwide and is up towards the top of the food chain when it comes to custom cues. It wasn't anything he did and if it was I have no doubt he would fix it or replace the shaft at no charge. That's just how he is. Like I said though, it was nothing he did. I'll leave it at that.
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Wasn't really what I was thinking................
I more thinking I don't really care about who broke the shaft or who made the shaft.
it was ,more like how can we get your shaft replaced for the least amount of money.
I was going to offer to make you a new shaft at my cost.....
I have respected your honesty and your ability to not be all upset about it.

So I needed to know what style of joint it has, because I only have done flat faced joints...


I didn't really want to say this in my first post because I was kind of checking the problem out and if you are low on funds then I was going to offer my services.
If your well off then you can afford to take care of this problem yourself.


That's it, that was my intension, not to bash anyone in any way........
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
Wasn't really what I was thinking................
I more thinking I don't really care about who broke the shaft or who made the shaft.
it was ,more like how can we get your shaft replaced for the least amount of money.
I was going to offer to make you a new shaft at my cost.....
I have respected your honesty and your ability to not be all upset about it.

So I needed to know what style of joint it has, because I only have done flat faced joints...


I didn't really want to say this in my first post because I was kind of checking the problem out and if you are low on funds then I was going to offer my services.
If your well off then you can afford to take care of this problem yourself.


That's it, that was my intension, not to bash anyone in any way........
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I didn't take it that way at all. I just didn't want to throw his name out there, that's all. I was more concerned it would sound like I was bashing him and I wanted to make it clear that I wasnt.

Sometimes I don't come across how I intend to and I apoligize if that was the case here. You're very kind to make such a gesture and believe me, it's appreciated. It's good to know there are still nice people out there, like yourself, who would do something like this for someone.

I have had communication with the maker though and he already offered to take care of it for about half what he would normally charge just because I'm so bummed out about it.

Thanks again! Very gracious gesture on your part.

:)
 
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peppersauce said:
How would you all have handled the situation?
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I would have done the same thing you did and I think you handled it perfectly.

The guy was just doing what the dang cue is designed to do.
If the shaft can't handle it that's too bad and time for a new one.

Seems to me it was just a matter of time when it was going to happen anyway.

It's one thing if he goes around the pool hall with the shaft purposely dinging it and making a mess.

But in this case he was just doing what the shaft is supposed to do in anyone's hands.

I would also have declined his offer, he didn't do anything wrong, but it was extremely nice of him to offer.

You handled it perfectly.
 
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peppersauce said:
I didn't take it that way at all. I just didn't want to throw his name out there, that's all. I was more concerned it would sound like I was bashing him and I wanted to make it clear that I wasnt.

Sometimes I don't come across how I intend to and I apoligize if that was the case here. You're very kind to make such a gesture and believe me, it's appreciated. It's good to know there are still nice people out there, like yourself, who would do something like this for someone.

I have had communication with the maker though and he already offered to take care of it for about half what he would normally charge just because I'm so bummed out about it.

Thanks again! Very gracious gesture on your part.

:)
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You did nothing wrong, and there is no need for you to apologize .
It sounds like you have the best plan on getting the shaft replaced.

If not then PM me and we will figure out something to get your cue back to 100% and usable ...
 
SPLITS in SHAFT

I've owned 3 different ld shafts by well known vendors. All - after warrentee's expired, showed hairline split's near the base. One on the lam joint and 2 in the wood. All about 2 to 3 inches long. No help from vendors - the ol out of warrentee time. Very expensive and not trustworthy. Although i inserted shims myself i no longer use / trust them. Many $ down the drain. Like to try again however ? Not in position to pee away that kind of loot to get screwed. Anyone else have similar problems ? And what to do with these ?

Thanks
 
To me, he did the right thing by offering to pay half and you did the right thing by declining. It is likely there was a fault in the wood that would have shown itself in time if you hadn't let him use the cue. Good for you!
 
Thats, my Crack, he tells it like it is. Honest to the bone.

Sounds like a real pisser Buddy. But ya know, you're using a 150 year old shaft to break with. I have zero sympathy for you. They make B Grade break shafts for that.

If you treated that with respect and as a playing shaft, you'd still be using it.
 
peppersauce said:
I don't know what you could do, if anything, to repair an LD shaft that is splitting. I would assume it's more complicated than repairing a solid maple shaft. That's interesting though. I've never heard of several different LD shafts splitting in the same area. Are they all from the same maker?

My shaft that split isn't LD. It's a solid maple old growth shaft. I feel for you though.
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1 tiger x 1 ob2 and one locusi Admittedly they were early models, however all played a lot but no splits until after a year or so. I'm semi pro and take xlent care of all my gear. HMMM ActuallyIa've reworked a few older std h maple shafts that are really much more OK at this time. Thanks
 
Ok, I agree with part of what you said. It is just me. I should have said. If I had a 150 yr old shaft, I wouldn't be using it for breaking.

But, it is yours so you did what you wanted with it. But, I can bet that if you hadn't been using it for that, you would still be playing with it.

Its wood. You can't hammer it forever. At least that one you couldn't.
 
peppersauce said:
It's funny you say that because just a month or two ago I saw a shaft split at the joint like mine did for the first time. It was a purple heart shaft on my buddy's break cue. His didn't have a collar either. I thought it was kind of weird in his case because...well, it was a break cue. Why not put a collar on the shaft and make it stronger?
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It is the way people break that cause this. As they break they are pushing down with the back hand causing pressure at the joint. Without a collar it is not as strong and it doesn't like that type of force. Basically it is like bending it over your knee but at a fast pace.
 
jasonlaus said:
I always use the same cue for all 3, why would it break?
Btw, been doing this for 20+ years
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It's common sense.

Because playing shafts aren't made to withstand such powerful shots? Would you use winter tires in summer too? Playing shafts are lighter hence using weaker materials for less deflection and optical performance. Breaking shafts are made with stronger materials to withstand the large amount of power and to increase the power of the break. By breaking with a playing cue, you increase the chances of the cue warping and breaking.

If you've been doing that for 20+ years maybe your breaks aren't strong? (lol just kidding, but in all seriousness I would never break with my playing cue knowing my shaft costs $280) Besides what if your only shaft broke? You'd have nothing else to rely on.
 
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