why are the british the best in the world?

BeiberLvr said:
Out of the 4 WPA World 10 Ball events, only one was won by a Brit.

Out of the 24 WPA World 9 Ball events, only two were won by Brits.

Out of the 38 US Open events, only one Brit has ever won (back to back)

So that's 5 wins in 66 events for the Brits. I guess over there, 8% is good enough to be called the best.
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0% of americans have won any game where the player is required to actually cue a ball. Would you like a recount?
 
Ron Swanson said:
0% of americans have won any game where the player is required to actually cue a ball. Would you like a recount?
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So in other words, Brits aren't the best at ALL cue sports. Just snooker.

Is that what you're saying, because I would probably agree with you.
 
Given that the UK is just more than half the size of California, the statistics above (5 wins in 66 world wide majors) is amazing. That does not include Alison Fisher and Karen Corr, either.
 
And the main reason Americans suck at a game like snooker is because sadly we never play it here. You have to start pretty damn young to have any chance of reaching the upper echelon, and that's true no matter what nationality you are.

A 30 year old Brit that's never played a game of snooker in his life has the same chance of qualifying for, and doing well (top 16 or better) on the pro snooker tour as a 30 year old American.

Zero. Zilch. Nada.

It's all about starting young, and the tougher the game is, the younger you have to start.
 
Tim/Ron has crawfished so much in this thread he doesn't know what he is saying.

Tally Ho!!

BeiberLvr said:
So in other words, Brits aren't the best at ALL cue sports. Just snooker.

Is that what you're saying, because I would probably agree with you.
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AngryTurtle said:
Given that the UK is just more than half the size of California, the statistics above (5 wins in 66 world wide majors) is amazing. That does not include Alison Fisher and Karen Corr, either.
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The size of the country is less significant than the number of players. Virtually no one here plays american pool. There are more serious american snooker players than there are serious british american pool players.

Anyway, I'm not concerned with that. Why are we able to produce players that can adapt to any form of billiards and other nations cannot?
 
easily the most delusional thread i've read on here in a long time.

brits are easily the best right now at snooker...largely due to the lack of most other countries playing that game.

now if we wanna talk about pool.....there's a lot of guys that would like to disagree with you there. call a spade a spade...brits are great at snooker.....a game that requires lots of precision. the rest of the world seems a little better than them at games that require lots of english and forcing the cue ball around the table (8, 9, 10 ball, etc.). quite a few male snooker players have come over and tried their hand at rotation pool. not sure if it was lack of money or just them constantly getting beaten (i'd say a combination of both), but they are all back playing snooker.
 
Ron Swanson said:
The size of the country is less significant than the number of players. Virtually no one here plays american pool. There are more serious american snooker players than there are serious british american pool players.

Anyway, I'm not concerned with that. Why are we able to produce players that can adapt to any form of billiards and other nations cannot?
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tell that to all the guys playing the GB9 tour. i'm pretty sure they are quite serious about playing "american pool." i actually shot against one of them in st. augustine this past year. kid is a phenomenal player, but he'd get his brains beaten in against solid shortstops playing 9 ball.
 
Chops02 said:
tell that to all the guys playing the GB9 tour. i'm pretty sure they are quite serious about playing "american pool." i actually shot against one of them in st. augustine this past year. kid is a phenomenal player, but he'd get his brains beaten in against solid shortstops playing 9 ball.
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Who was it?

Gb9 has about 100 regular players, most of whom are amateur enthusiasts. Aren't too many other american pool players here.
 
Ron Swanson said:
Who was it?

Gb9 has about 100 regular players, most of whom are amateur enthusiasts. Aren't too many other american pool players here.
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Can't recall his name. It was a pretty short match. Haha. Got three games off him and was pretty happy about it. Not many others managed that many. Nice guy though. Very humble and a good kid. More than I can say for some......
 
DTL said:
See post #71...........massive junior programs, topnotch professional instruction/training facilities in every major city, etc. USA is 5X as big........essentially no comparable training programs.

Snooker's governing bodies are totally committed to foster, encourage and promote it's game. A game that, unlike in American, is enjoyed by the general public (even non-players)...........with massive exposure on the telly (TV).

Put the same amount of money, commitment and resources in pool here in the USA and you'd get the same result..........but without a popular game, it'll likely never happen.

It has nothing to do with genetic makeup.
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Couple of things here...firstly, our greatest ever/pioneering players came in the era well before structured training. The overwhelming majority of good players were well on their way to having successful careers long before they had coaching, if they had any at all. I don't buy structured training etc at all. That is overstated and simplistic.

Perhaps not genetic, but the games we play force you to cue straight, and that is the basis for all great players. It is a transferable skill.
 
DTL said:
We'll never know if those chaps could have excelled in other cue sports as they only played snooker. And since it was before structured training, I'll presume it was sort of like it was here in the States from the beginning of pool until the 1970's, when only a handful of players were capable of winning the big tournaments.

I'd guess it was around Steve Davis' early years when the emphasis on training, fundamentals, etc all started with a big bang. I know Ronnie O was receiving formal training in his pre-teen years.

Straight stroke is key!
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Indeed, and is deceptively difficult to achieve.
 
Ron Swanson said:
Scott? Anyway, if you are in the auld country next month, give me a shout as I'll be there too. It'll also very likely be the last time I'll ever play, but i can match you up with no end of local players if you fancy your chances.

I'd still bet on your chances of being john barton if i were you. Americans certainly have great plastic surgeons, so being a big fat loudmouth with Barton's face shouldn't be difficult for you to pull off.
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I'd have to gain some weight and lose a few inches of height to pull off a Barton. We probably will be there in November (you can probably guess why) and like I said, if you want to play for some cash I'll be happy to humiliate you and take your money. As for other locals, I'm sure there are some I can beat and some who can beat me. This ain't about other Brits, it's about a pompous @$$hat troll who goes by Thaiger, Swanson, et al, and stirs up crap because he hates America. It's about you coming on AZB and spouting off elitist British bull$#!+. So put your money where your mouth (keyboard) is and play.

Lastly two things. First, this isn't about snooker. Snooker is a wonderful game that I wish filled my country. No disrespect meant to snooker. Second, I post with an iPhone and it spells any damned way it wants so if Scot gets changed without me realizing it, get over it Ron.
 
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