What is the cheapest pool credential?

336Robin

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Lately Ive thought about getting a bona fide Pool Credential but don't want to sink a ton of money in it. So whats the Pool Credentials out there? What is the cheapest to get and maintain?
 
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Go for Dr. Daves billiard university certificate. If you score well it will probably help you sell more books.

There isn't a lot of money in books that's for sure, so Im thinking teach a few lessons and enjoy pool. Maybe I will just give some lessons. It seems like the certification programs are all so expensive I would spend most of my time paying them.
 
It really isn't that bad. Yes its expensive, but its all in how you look at it. With a little luck, the course will pay for itself within the first year.
 
Part time.

It really isn't that bad. Yes its expensive, but its all in how you look at it. With a little luck, the course will pay for itself within the first year.

I kind of doubt that. I know a guy that gives lessons local here and he might get 10 students a year for a $30 dollar lesson, plus there is up keep on that cert so you have to be out there pushing for students...guess that counts me out. I really don't want another whole career, just part time.
 
FWIW, I have always looked for some type of certification from a recognized organization such as BCA. I'm no longer current up to date with things nowadays, so I have no idea what organizations are legit & respected. But if I were looking for lessons today, that's research I'd do, and then find an instructor or school with a certification from such organization.
 
I kind of doubt that. I know a guy that gives lessons local here and he might get 10 students a year for a $30 dollar lesson, plus there is up keep on that cert so you have to be out there pushing for students...guess that counts me out. I really don't want another whole career, just part time.

I think you kind of have to be somebody to command much for lessons. Ray Martin used to have a waiting list. I was told it was like a doctors office. One coming in as one was leaving.
 
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Robin...It's like I told you. The PBIA instructor training course is set at a minimum charge of $800 for the 3-day course (however, instructors are free to charge whatever they choose). Annual dues are $35/yr (more for higher ranking instructors), so that's not much "upkeep". Develop a good reputation as an instructor and you'll have plenty of students...no matter where you live.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

I kind of doubt that. I know a guy that gives lessons local here and he might get 10 students a year for a $30 dollar lesson, plus there is up keep on that cert so you have to be out there pushing for students...guess that counts me out. I really don't want another whole career, just part time.
 
You get what you pay for. The PBIA is the only accredited professional instructor organization. Other groups have some things available, but nothing on the scale of the PBIA training. Some groups you just pay a fee and are automatically an "instructor". To me that's a joke. Like I told you, many pro-ability players think they can teach just because they play well...but that's not necessarily the case (and often not).

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Lately Ive thought about getting a bona fide Pool Credential but don't want to sink a ton of money in it. So whats the Pool Credentials out there? What is the cheapest to get and maintain?
 
Thanks

Robin...It's like I told you. The PBIA instructor training course is set at a minimum charge of $800 for the 3-day course (however, instructors are free to charge whatever they choose). Annual dues are $35/yr (more for higher ranking instructors), so that's not much "upkeep". Develop a good reputation as an instructor and you'll have plenty of students...no matter where you live.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Thanks Scott,
I might do that, still considering.
 
You get what you pay for. The PBIA is the only accredited professional instructor organization. Other groups have some things available, but nothing on the scale of the PBIA training. Some groups you just pay a fee and are automatically an "instructor". To me that's a joke. Like I told you, many pro-ability players think they can teach just because they play well...but that's not necessarily the case (and often not).

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

At this point its more of a thought and a direction so Im not real sure just yet. Ive so many irons in the fire these days. I would like do it, it has some appeal and Ive changed my mind on a lot of things from years back. I can see how the respected pool certifications are really good for pool. It seems that the Instructors at least have an organization or network. That a lot to be said actually.
 
Robin...It's like I told you. The PBIA instructor training course is set at a minimum charge of $800 for the 3-day course (however, instructors are free to charge whatever they choose). Annual dues are $35/yr (more for higher ranking instructors), so that's not much "upkeep". Develop a good reputation as an instructor and you'll have plenty of students...no matter where you live.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Did he say minimum? :yikes:
 
Lately Ive thought about getting a bona fide Pool Credential but don't want to sink a ton of money in it. So whats the Pool Credentials out there? What is the cheapest to get and maintain?

336Robin - What exactly is your motivation for getting the credential? What are your goals?
 
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336Robin - What exactly is your motivation for getting the credential? What are your goals?

The only goals I have is to get a few students from time to time. I just enjoy teaching and helping people who are stuck at a level. I want to work with people who are looking to improve, because Im not into trying to twist peoples arms who are undecided or close minded.

I guess the idea was that if there was a credential that actually helped me learn how to teach pool that I might consider it.

I actually put it up on my website today that I will teach lessons. I taught one last week and was able to help the guy. I didn't think it was hard it was more figuring out where he was in his game. What he knew and didn't know. Watching his fundamentals and stroke.
 
The only goals I have is to get a few students from time to time. I just enjoy teaching and helping people who are stuck at a level. I want to work with people who are looking to improve, because Im not into trying to twist peoples arms who are undecided or close minded.

I guess the idea was that if there was a credential that actually helped me learn how to teach pool that I might consider it.

I actually put it up on my website today that I will teach lessons. I taught one last week and was able to help the guy. I didn't think it was hard it was more figuring out where he was in his game. What he knew and didn't know. Watching his fundamentals and stroke.

I share similar sediment to you, but never really considered getting a credential, which is what made me so curious. I've found playing well and teaching well are 2 totally different animals. Took me a awhile to learn how to take the right approach and explain things in a way most helpful to a particular student, especially considering the wide variety of talent and comprehensive levels they have.

I'm not a pro, nor have a credential, but I'm effective. The people I help seem to improve at rapid levels, so I must be doing something right. I try to build their toolbag and get them thinking about the game from the right perspective, so they are able to grow as much on their own as with my help.

Not really answering your questions directly, but thought you might find another perspective interesting.
 
Absolutely

I share similar sediment to you, but never really considered getting a credential, which is what made me so curious. I've found playing well and teaching well are 2 totally different animals. Took me a awhile to learn how to take the right approach and explain things in a way most helpful to a particular student, especially considering the wide variety of talent and comprehensive levels they have.

I'm not a pro, nor have a credential, but I'm effective. The people I help seem to improve at rapid levels, so I must be doing something right. I try to build their toolbag and get them thinking about the game from the right perspective, so they are able to grow as much on their own as with my help.

Not really answering your questions directly, but thought you might find another perspective interesting.

Absolutely I find your perspective interesting. Im intending on feeling this out for awhile before I make any decisions but most likely I will just find myself some teaching materials and teach a few to see how I like it. I know what I can do and Im pretty good at describing what I do aiming, banking, using spin, preshot, decision making and the different games. I know that having the correct materials and being familiar with them and knowing how to teach them is a big plus, like you said its a totally different skill.
 
Let me know how how things go. I've always taken a more practical approach vs. going down the road that you're about to with developing pure and true teaching skills. But I mainly just try to help those around me from time to time, while it's sounds like you want to do the real deal, the right way.

I try to stress that it's like getting good at anything else in life. You need a blend of the pure classroom work (books, reading, watching video, etc), and the applied work (drills, practice, some gambling so they learn how to play under real pressure). If the player is willing to see the game from its whole perspective, they seem to improve rapidly if they're willing to put in the work.
 
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