Flood of Chinese made Southwest knockoffs , anygood

ron3

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Seems to be a lot of the no name Asian SW, knockoffs out there,Anyone had experience with them.
 
For $80 they're not bad, maybe $99 w/2-shafts.
I gave one away, and she has never complained, however, for the sake of full
disclosure, she's an APA 2 who is lucky to hit the object ball half the time, and she
played a little better with my Meucci PP-3, with a pencil thin Red Dot shaft.
No shit



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Kaiser is one of the brands that J&J sells. They are probably solid cues, if you want something to beat on the barbox. For $150, I'd rather buy a decent Schmelke.

For $150, you can get a REALLY nice Schmelke... but Dave and I already know this

I don't know why no one ever listens to us...? LOL
 
There no bad...,

If you put a good tip on those Kaiser cues they play pretty good. I took one in on trade and gave to someone who needed a cue and was short on cash.

Cant say much for the fit and finish, but for that kinda money what do you want.
 
For $150, you can get a REALLY nice Schmelke... but Dave and I already know this

I don't know why no one ever listens to us...? LOL

Beats me! :thumbup:

I'd love to order another, built the same as my current, but I'm too lazy to pick up the phone. Every time I've dealt with David Schmelke, he's been extremely helpful!
 
LOL, you probably don't remember Paul Harvey, but never the less, ... And now for the rest of the story. :smile:

I've never been one to spend much on cues for two reasons.

1. I have no interest in being a collector of fine art. Which is what I feel custom cues are. I enjoy looking at the beauty of them, and I can appreciate the hours and effort that went into making them. All of which identifies them as great art.

2. I'd never spend a shit load of money on a playing cue that I've never hit a ball with.

Having said that, the cheapo knock off cues don't feel so good to me initially, but after I taper them back about 18" or so and down to 12.5 mm, and I replace the tips with what I like,and sometimes a better wrap, then .... they're OK.

I can't get them to run 100 balls though. The one second up from the made it to 78 before it missed a freaking 8" duck into the corner pocket.

The cue 3 up from the bottom made it all the way to 81, two less than my old Meucci from 25 years ago, so it's obviously not quite as good as a Meucci.

The other two cues have never even made it past a mid 50, so ... we can also say they are not consistent in their build. :thumbup:

BTW ... All these were less than 500 bucks combined. That's after replacement wrap and with two shafts each. (8 shafts) and even joint protectors. LOL
 
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LOL, you probably don't remember Paul Harvey, but never the less, ... And now for the rest of the story. :smile:

I've never been one to spend much on cues for two reasons.

1. I have no interest in being a collector of fine art. Which is what I feel custom cues are. I enjoy looking at the beauty of them, and I can appreciate the hours and effort that went into making them. All of which identifies them as great art.

2. I'd never spend a shit load of money on a playing cue that I've never hit a ball with.

Having said that, the cheapo knock off cues don't feel so good to me initially, but after I taper them back about 18" or so and down to 12.5 mm, and I replace the tips with what I like,and sometimes a better wrap, then .... they're OK.

I can't get them to run 100 balls though. The one second up from the made it to 78 before it missed a freaking 8" duck into the corner pocket.

The cue 3 up from the bottom made it all the way to 81, two less than my old Meucci from 25 years ago, so it's obviously not quite as good as a Meucci.

The other two cues have never even made it past a mid 50, so ... we can also say they are not consistent in their build. :thumbup:

BTW ... All these were less than 500 bucks combined. That's after replacement wrap and with two shafts each. (8 shafts) and even joint protectors. LOL

Just going by looks without name brand or close up inspection, those could probably be sold for 3 times what you paid for them as "unknown" makers :cool::wink:

Are they Kaiser?
 
For $150, you can get a REALLY nice Schmelke... but Dave and I already know this

I don't know why no one ever listens to us...? LOL

I cracked my schmelke butt before state last year... the butt of the cue cracked in 2 places on each side... Hit concrete floor, so not the cues fault. I used some Gorilla glue, and she was ready for state the next week, glue lines and all. Yeah, I cashed too ;)
 
Just going by looks without name brand or close up inspection, those could probably be sold for 3 times what you paid for them as "unknown" makers :cool::wink:

Are they Kaiser?

No these things were called MR Cues ... the guy only has that Zebrawood wood cue left for sale that I know of on ebay.

Even the weights were replaceable. Pooldawg had plenty of them available. Shoot, the wraps cost me 160 bucks. They all came through with black linen wraps, not so great. I did that over time, but I think the cues with two shafts each, and joint protectors were only 79 bucks each including shipping. :D
 
Not to mention, there are some great Chinese players that can run hundreds of balls with American cues and those are imports to them, so .... :shrug: :rolleyes: :smile:
 
Any day of the week I'd pick the Schmelke

Me too, brother, me too.

Some people have run multiple racks on some people with an import cue. :thumbup:

"Import" is a bad choice word. Low quality Chinese made production cues are what they really are, but import is so much easier to say. :D

Lucasi, Action, Players, Poison, Predator, and a few others are all made in China.
 
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