Weight bolts

mortuarymike-nv

mortuarymike-nv

mortuarymike-nv
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I get a McDermott cue in that the Butt sleeve had broken of flush where the linen wrap stopped.

The cue had a 1/2 inch dia weight bolt in it that was 4 inches long and weighted 8.5 ounces.

The butt section broke off because of how big the weight bolt is and how thin the wood is that actually holds the butt sleeve on and the weight bolt ended right where it started to thread into the handle /wrap section.

The butt sleeve is phenolic and the wood holding the butt sleeve on was on 0.100 thick and looked like African Mohogany
The piece that helbd the butt sleeve on was red and crumbly .

I machined down a piece of yellow heart to a dowel 0.722 OD then drilled a 5/16 hole in it a epoxied the dowel and butt sleeve back on .

I taped the hole tp 3/8 x 16 will a extra long tap and taped the hole as deep as I could 5.5 inches .
Cut a piece 3/8x 16 all thread weight it to the old 1./2 weight bolt.

the 3/8 bolt weight is 5.5 oz making the total butt weight 15.0 OZ.

I don't have the shaft that comes with the cue but I am guessing the shaft is some where around 3.6 to 4.0 ounces on a 3/8x 10 wood to wood joint on a McDermott .
Bringing the cue to some where around 18.6 to 19 ounces .

The cue is for the customers mother who lives in Colorado.

Pretty sure because I moved the balance point forward it will feel light and it is about 3 ounces light .

I don't want to drill and tap a bigger hole because that is what made the cue fragile to begin with.
I don't have a longer tap,
I was thinking of making a lead weight bolt ? but I need 2.5 to 3 ounces more .

I cannot believe any cue needs a 8.5 weight bolt.
 
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If it has a standard hard McDermott bumper could you put an ounce or 2 of lead in it to get the balance and weight back more to the way it was before? or would their mounting method not be beefy enough to handle that?
 
JasBy said:
If it has a standard hard McDermott bumper could you put an ounce or 2 of lead in it to get the balance and weight back more to the way it was before? or would their mounting method not be beefy enough to handle that?
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The weight bolt I have in there now is taking up all the room.
 
So, she wants the cue to weigh 21-22 ozs.? Most of my shafts weigh about 4 oz., so your butt would produce a 19 oz. cue, which is about the normal weight ordered from me.
 
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rhinobywilhite said:
So, she wants the cue to weigh 21-22 ozs.? Most of my shafts weigh about 4 oz., so your butt would produce a 19 oz. cue, which is about the normal weight ordered from me.
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Yes the cue weight was 22 ounces now its 19 ounce and I have moved the balance point forward ,

IMO if I drill and tap to the next size up I will be possibly making the wood so thin that the butt of the cue might break back off.

I am the 2nd person to repair this cue for the butt breaking off.
McDermott has already repaired this cue once for the same problem.

The wrap section and the butt sleeve on this cue is all paper wrapped phenolic or plastic..

Why make a butt that only weighs 10 oz ?.
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
No not yet .

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K.
Use a 5/8 or 3/4 brad point drill. You can drill up 6 inches deep.
You can then use a weight bolt on that 5/8 or 3/4 dowel going in .
Keep the bottom 4/5 inches of the dowel oversize so you can true it up after the epoxy has set .
Take note how deep your weight bolt is .
You can add more weight bolt at the bottom later on after you attach the sleeve.
If you use a stronger dowel, you will be strengthening the cue .

I don't get why anyone would want a cue that heavy though.
That cue will have no resonance at all.
 
JoeyInCali said:
K.
Use a 5/8 or 3/4 brad point drill. You can drill up 6 inches deep.
You can then use a weight bolt on that 5/8 or 3/4 dowel going in .
Keep the bottom 4/5 inches of the dowel oversize so you can true it up after the epoxy has set .
Take note how deep your weight bolt is .
You can add more weight bolt at the bottom later on after you attach the sleeve.
If you use a stronger dowel, you will be strengthening the cue .

I don't get why anyone would want a cue that heavy though.
That cue will have no resonance at all.
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You have me lost ? in my first post I said I drilled a 0.722 dia 2 .5 into the wrap section of the handle and drilled out the butt sleeve .
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From the end of the cue I did drill a 0.722 hole 6 inches deep.
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
You have me lost ? in my first post I said I drilled a 0.722 dia 2 .5 into the wrap section of the handle and drilled out the butt sleeve .
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From the end of the cue I did drill a 0.722 hole 6 inches deep.
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2.5 deep is not enough.
Supply the punch line.
 
Drilling the wrap section

JoeyInCali said:
2.5 deep is not enough.
Supply the punch line.
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Yes I should of thought about that before I glue everything back together !

The punch line is this is insane having to put a 8,5 ounce weight bolt in one cue.

I am going to let the customer try the cue at 19 ounces and explain what is going on inside the cue, if they don't like it then I will go back in and fix the cue so I an screw in a piece of 3/8 all thread 9 inches long .
 
JoeyInCali said:
K.
Use a 5/8 or 3/4 brad point drill. You can drill up 6 inches deep.
You can then use a weight bolt on that 5/8 or 3/4 dowel going in .
Keep the bottom 4/5 inches of the dowel oversize so you can true it up after the epoxy has set .
Take note how deep your weight bolt is .
You can add more weight bolt at the bottom later on after you attach the sleeve.
If you use a stronger dowel, you will be strengthening the cue .

I don't get why anyone would want a cue that heavy though.
That cue will have no resonance at all.
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I would like the short version on little resonance on heavier cues. I had a front weighted 23 oz. cue i loved (stole)

Jim
 
You can achieve a lot of that weight with different types of wood. I think Joey was referring to the large chunk of metal used to load the cue the easy way. That will, IMO, change the cue resonance.
 
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