WWYD 9 Ball

You got to stun the ball, the cue ball will slide a little after it hits the 7 and that way you dont have to put much draw or spin on it, just a little touch of right English like my picture shows. It worked for me every time, maybe it's just a better choice for me personally.
 
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sebroy9 said:
Hmm did you try my shot? I did the shot like 10 out of 10. very standard.
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Thanks for shooting:)

Yes, I believe your shot was the last one in my video. Jacked up outside, and 2 rails out of the corner.

Our ball positions could easily be 2" or more off, and drastically change the shot.
 
sebroy9 said:
The scratch in the side is at play with this way. Also, you can hit the point of the side pocket and leave your self with a bank on the 8, that way.
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Not if you know how to control the cb....... :thumbup:

Just joking around btw
 
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iusedtoberich said:
Thanks for shooting:)

Yes, I believe your shot was the last one in my video. Jacked up outside, and 2 rails out of the corner.

Our ball positions could easily be 2" or more off, and drastically change the shot.
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I see now, I did not notice you put a video. Yeah that last shot looks like the one I said, it works good for me. Looks like you hit it good in your video.
 
The biggest thing for me on shots like this is to keep them as natural as possible.

Jacking up isnt natural, excessive spin isnt natural. etc
If you are proficient with the wagon wheel concept, and know your tangent lines, you can see them quickly, and know how to alter them easily. If the scratch is too close, try to hit closer to center ball on the vertical axis, it still requires a little elevation, but not as much as hitting a draw shot that close to the rail.
 
sebroy9 said:
I used the pictures you posted of your tables with different angles to know where to put the balls. Since you showed 3 different angles, it was possible to place the object balls in the same spots.
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Trust me, I'm as anal as they come, as you can tell by the lines on my table. Its almost impossible to place the balls exactly the same from pictures. The parallax is huge, as is the distortion from the lens.

That's actually the reason I put the lines on my table. To record myself practicing, and if I come across a trouble shot in a session, go back to the video and try to set up the same shot. The lines help a lot. But still, I think even with the lines, its extremely difficult to get better than about 1" ball placement.
 
Chuck Fields said:
The biggest thing for me on shots like this is to keep them as natural as possible.

Jacking up isnt natural, excessive spin isnt natural. etc
If you are proficient with the wagon wheel concept, and know your tangent lines, you can see them quickly, and know how to alter them easily. If the scratch is too close, try to hit closer to center ball on the vertical axis, it still requires a little elevation, but not as much as hitting a draw shot that close to the rail.
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I did it 10 out of 10 with this cue ball strike.

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iusedtoberich said:
Trust me, I'm as anal as they come, as you can tell by the lines on my table. Its almost impossible to place the balls exactly the same from pictures. The parallax is huge, as is the distortion from the lens.

That's actually the reason I put the lines on my table. To record myself practicing, and if I come across a trouble shot in a session, go back to the video and try to set up the same shot. The lines help a lot. But still, I think even with the lines, its extremely difficult to get better than about 1" ball placement.
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Well the way my cue ball reacted is the exact same way that it did for you in your video. You hit it perfect in your video as well are you sure you can't hit that shot over and over again?
 
sebroy9 said:
I did it 10 out of 10 with this cue ball strike.

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Nice shooting. What's your speed?

I think your shot and the 7 in the corner were the best. I will try them both now 10 times each (no video) and report the results. I'm a high C/ low B.
 
sebroy9 said:
Well the way my cue ball reacted is the exact same way that it did for you in your video. You hit it perfect in your video as well are you sure you can't hit that shot over and over again?
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I only shot each shot until I had one or two successes. Each shot took me 3 to 5 tries until I had my first success on it. And I edited out the misses. I will try 10 of each now, that we have two good shots that work.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I only shot each shot until I had one or two successes. Each shot took me 3 to 5 tries until I had my first success on it. And I edited out the misses. I will try 10 of each now, that we have two good shots that work.
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Alright great let us know.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Nice shooting. What's your speed?

I think your shot and the 7 in the corner were the best. I will try them both now 10 times each (no video) and report the results. I'm a high C/ low B.
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Well with your methodology and your dedication and passion for the game and your set up to practice, you won't be a low b for much longer.

Right now I don't live where there is a pool hall so all I do is practice by my self so I would probably say I'm at A or A+ at this point but I don't know. I run tables pretty often and do good against the ghost. I would need to challenge other good players to see how good I would do under pressure to know for sure what speed I am.
 
By the way, when I aim this shot, I do it like a jump shot. first I aim at a level cue and then once I am aligned I jack up and make sure that my stroke is like a good poke stroke with a nice follow through.
 
I just tried 10 of each shot:

Level stroke, high, touch of right (maybe 1/8 tip):
-Pocketed ball 7/10
-Got position each time
-Success rate 7/10


Jacked up, stun or touch draw, and right
-Pocketed ball 10/10
-Got 2 rail position as intended 7/10 times. The other 2 times the CB rolled a hair too far and landed bad on the 8 ball.
-Got 1 rail position 1/10 times (not enough draw on CB and it had a slightly different path)
Success rate 8/10

Comment, this shot was much more sensitive to the speed than the first shot.

Looks like both are good shots and good to know:)
Thanks all for participating.
 
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I would shoot this shot depending on the table and table conditions. On a fast table, I'd hit middle right and let the cue ball come back under the 8 ball. I'd shoot it up into the corner opposite the 9 ball. Lots of room for shape.

On a slower table, I'd elevate a bit and cue a little low right spin, staying above the 8 ball. Taking an extra rail won't hurt my position.

Best.
Mike
 
iusedtoberich said:
I just tried 10 of each shot:

Level stroke, high, touch of right (maybe 1/8 tip):
-Pocketed ball 7/10
-Got position each time
-Success rate 7/10


Jacked up, stun or touch draw, and right
-Pocketed ball 10/10
-Got 2 rail position as intended 7/10 times. The other 2 times the CB rolled a hair too far and landed bad on the 8 ball.
-Got 1 rail position 1/10 times (not enough draw on CB and it had a slightly different path)
Success rate 8/10

Comment, this shot was much more sensitive to the speed than the first shot.

Looks like both are good shots and good to know:)
Thanks all for participating.
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Great, good stuff.
 
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