Is it just me, or are most sellers having trouble selling their cues on here?

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justinb386

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I am curious how often a cue gets sold on here for a fair price (that is not a steal of a deal)?

Is ebay the much better option when wanting to get the best possible price out of your cue that you want, or need to sell?

Are most buyers just looking for a really big steal of a deal, or are there many buyers on here that are actually willing to pay a seller a fair price for a cue (if they are interested in it)?

Is this site pretty much dead, or how popular is this forum?

I am very curious how many people actually come to az billiards forum looking to buy a cue, or trade their cue, and how many serious players here in the US that do not even know (have never heard of) AZ Billiards forum?

Is AZ Billiards for sale section mostly just for very high end cues? If so, then I assume that people that go to the for sale section of az billiards are only there to look at high end custom cues from the top elite cue makers of the present and past.
 
Allen Brown said:
There are 56 people in NPR right now and 78 in Wanted/For Sale right now. What does that tell you?
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I honestly do not know. Are you saying that 78 is a lot? How many players here in the US do you think are searching to buy a cue on ebay right now? I assume more then 78, but I do not know.
 
I've never had much trouble selling here. You have to price realistically and still be willing to price drop to get a sale.

So many cues endlessly bumped here and never priced dropped. Better to concede and sell or put it back in the case.
 
justinb386 said:
I honestly do not know. Are you saying that 78 is a lot? How many players here in the US do you think are searching to buy a cue on ebay right now? I assume more then 78, but I do not know.
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He's saying it's dead...70 looky Lous, 5 tire kickers, 2 low ballers and one guy on the fence.
 
justinb386 said:
I am curious how often a cue gets sold on here for a fair price (that is not a steal of a deal)?

Is ebay the much better option when wanting to get the best possible price out of your cue that you want, or need to sell?

Are most buyers just looking for a really big steal of a deal, or are there many buyers on here that are actually willing to pay a seller a fair price for a cue (if they are interested in it)?

Is this site pretty much dead, or how popular is this forum?

I am very curious how many people actually come to az billiards forum looking to buy a cue, or trade their cue, and how many serious players here in the US that do not even know (have never heard of) AZ Billiards forum?

Is AZ Billiards for sale section mostly just for very high end cues? If so, then I assume that people that go to the for sale section of az billiards are only there to look at high end custom cues from the top elite cue makers of the present and past.
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Everyone has his own idea about what is a good cue, therefore why should a seller be trusted for HIS opinion of HIS cue that HE'S trying to sell. And how do you know you'll get your money back dealing with anyone on a pool forum. Btw ordinary cues don't move. If I wanted an ordinary cue I'd buy it in person where I could try it.:)
 
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justinb386 said:
I honestly do not know. Are you saying that 78 is a lot? How many players here in the US do you think are searching to buy a cue on ebay right now? I assume more then 78, but I do not know.
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78 is not a lot at all. There used to be double if not triple that number in the For sale section on any given evening. There are almost as many people in NPR wasting time and not even thinking about a cue. I don't really know about eBay, but yes we all know sales are down here.
 
justinb386 said:
I am curious how often a cue gets sold on here for a fair price (that is not a steal of a deal)?

Is ebay the much better option when wanting to get the best possible price out of your cue that you want, or need to sell?

Are most buyers just looking for a really big steal of a deal, or are there many buyers on here that are actually willing to pay a seller a fair price for a cue (if they are interested in it)?

Is this site pretty much dead, or how popular is this forum?

I am very curious how many people actually come to az billiards forum looking to buy a cue, or trade their cue, and how many serious players here in the US that do not even know (have never heard of) AZ Billiards forum?

Is AZ Billiards for sale section mostly just for very high end cues? If so, then I assume that people that go to the for sale section of az billiards are only there to look at high end custom cues from the top elite cue makers of the present and past.
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Who is determining that "fair price"? :rolleyes:
 
2strong4u said:
I've never had much trouble selling here. You have to price realistically and still be willing to price drop to get a sale.

So many cues endlessly bumped here and never priced dropped. Better to concede and sell or put it back in the case.
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The cue that I have been trying to sell is limited edition Jacoby, and only 6 of them were made, but I assume that it is still considered a production cue, and on top of that, it does not have sharp points (which I assume hurts the value even more). I put a price on the cue (which is less then half of its original retail value), and I think it is a fair price, but the cue does need a refinish. Maybe the cue would get some interest if I get it refinished, but I think not, since I have not even received 1 cash offer in the week that I have had it listed on here (bumping the thread every 48 hours). So was just curious if most other sellers (on here) are probably also not receiving offers on their cues. I am thinking that I would have to price the cue at 25% of its original retail value to be able to get it sold quickly. I see sneaky pete cues for sale on here for not much less (and some for a lot more) then what I am asking for my cue. I do not know. Maybe my cue is not as valuable as I thought it was. I guess auctioning it off on ebay (7 day auction) with a starting bid of a penny it would show its true value (in todays used pool cue market). I might never receive a cash offer for it on here, and I get the feeling that bumping my thread is just a waste of space on here. I had I think 6 or 7 very high end Chad Carter cues for sale or trade listed on here (I was not the owner of them by the way, and was listing them for a local dealer), and I bumped that thread for months without even 1 interested buyer or trader. Also had a really nice Omen listed on here for what I thought was a very fair price, and I bumped that thread for months with no interest from anyone. It is funny, because I have received a few PM's within the last year (and it has been around a year and a half since I listed the cues on here) from people that were Interested in the Carter cues, and I had not bumped those threads since before last August. I assume that only well known cues from elite cue makers ever get sold on here, or low end production cues for dirt cheap. Ebay seems like the best option for the seller that needs to sell their cues ASAP.
 
Once you get beyond a decent cue that plays well you are dealing in the collectibles market. Prices go up and they go down. I have an 80 year old Lionel train set that was probably $100 new in the 1930's, was worth well over $10,000 a decade or two ago and maybe only half that today. Art, collector cars, you name it... it ebbs and flows. A cue is worth exactly what someone is willing AND able to pay for it today.
 
Joe_Jaguar said:
Who is determining that "fair price"? :rolleyes:
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I guess just the seller (what ever price the seller thinks their cue is worth). I assume that if it was a Diveney cue that I were to list, then I would be receiving a lot of cash offers on it (no matter what price I listed for it), because his cues are in such high demand. I see now that there really is not any demand for Jacoby cues. They are probably looked at as more of a Production cue then a custom cue, so that might be part of the reason. A Jacoby is probably on about the same level as a Joss I think. So it might be like trying to get $600 out of your limited edition Joss cue.
 
Your Jacoby is overpriced for the market, sorry.

The world is broke, so no one is buying unless they are stealing or the item is really in demand.

Jacoby is not in demand. They make a quality product, but they don't have the mass appeal your price demands.

Predators at that price aren't selling either.
 
Quite a few cue's are sold or traded here on AZ, but they have to be the right cues, or really cheap.
It is a little slow right now but it's not bad.

Some cues just sell better on Ebay like Predator for instance, and most production cues sell better on Ebay
There are custom cues that are popular on AZ, but there is little interest when posted on Ebay.
I wouldn't think of buying a production cue on AZ, the retail sellers here can't really compete with Pooldawg or Billiard Warehouse.
Maybe they can match the price but that is it.

Some sellers don't care if they sell the cue or not, they are poolplayers and the cue might be their only asset
Others overprice the cue either looking for a sucker or fishing for a more valuable trade
I see serious sellers with way too much spread between the posted price, and the bottom line they will actually take, in cash
Some people just don't understand secondary market values, or they call the cuemaker and get a high value...good luck getting that price.
The cue market is dynamic, so the original asking price needs to be in the ballpark, with a good presentation, if you want to sell a cue
 
I see it in the book market also, people who have been listing a 400 dollar book for 1500 for 2 years.
Unless it costs a bit to market them , they just put it out there and hope some body with too much money comes along.
One guy "Jumping Frog " or something like that , listed every book for 500.00 lol.

I thought that was a nice touch.
 
For $600 you can get a new Jacoby (simpler design) with an edge hybrid *and* a maple shaft on eBay. The other recent Jacoby listing that is 4 figures and doesn't come with even one Edge hybrid just is not going to compete with the Jacoby deals on eBay. I know all this because I'm in the market for a Jacoby.

Similarly OB cues definitely aren't going to sell for what most people list them as on AZB given how reasonably cheap you can get them new (with perks) from online retailers.

Good luck.
 
It's the same with Numismatic's(coins). The "key" coins hold they're values better, but EVERYTHING is down today.

It's the housing and job markets that are to blame...IMO


If you look at the successful sellers on AZB, it's a very short list. and, it's getting shorter every day. Not all are selling high end cues, but they have a better presentation than most, and they stick to "key" makers.

On the other hand, you have the sellers that are trying to sell 46 cues with 46 threads getting bumped every 2 days, it just turns people off, and most of them get ignored, and people look elsewhere. Jacoby makes a good cue, but unless someone is looking for a Jacoby, and it has a great price.they will skip over it, or try to low ball you. Especially if it needs a refinish.

There are guys here that are still trying to sell a cue that's been for sale for 2+yrs. That's just an overpriced cue, nothing more.


If you don't need the cash, just keep it, or find someone in your poolhall that's looking for a deal.

Sorry for the rant, I feel your pain.:sorry:
 
justinb386 said:
The cue that I have been trying to sell is limited edition Jacoby, and only 6 of them were made, but I assume that it is still considered a production cue, and on top of that, it does not have sharp points (which I assume hurts the value even more). I put a price on the cue (which is less then half of its original retail value), and I think it is a fair price, but the cue does need a refinish. Maybe the cue would get some interest if I get it refinished, but I think not, since I have not even received 1 cash offer in the week that I have had it listed on here (bumping the thread every 48 hours). So was just curious if most other sellers (on here) are probably also not receiving offers on their cues. I am thinking that I would have to price the cue at 25% of its original retail value to be able to get it sold quickly. I see sneaky pete cues for sale on here for not much less (and some for a lot more) then what I am asking for my cue. I do not know. Maybe my cue is not as valuable as I thought it was. I guess auctioning it off on ebay (7 day auction) with a starting bid of a penny it would show its true value (in todays used pool cue market). I might never receive a cash offer for it on here, and I get the feeling that bumping my thread is just a waste of space on here. I had I think 6 or 7 very high end Chad Carter cues for sale or trade listed on here (I was not the owner of them by the way, and was listing them for a local dealer), and I bumped that thread for months without even 1 interested buyer or trader. Also had a really nice Omen listed on here for what I thought was a very fair price, and I bumped that thread for months with no interest from anyone. It is funny, because I have received a few PM's within the last year (and it has been around a year and a half since I listed the cues on here) from people that were Interested in the Carter cues, and I had not bumped those threads since before last August. I assume that only well known cues from elite cue makers ever get sold on here, or low end production cues for dirt cheap. Ebay seems like the best option for the seller that needs to sell their cues ASAP.
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For the Jacoby I'd put it on ebay with a starting bid that is your lowest acceptable price and let it go. If you can pair it up with a case or a break cue it could appeal to someone looking to get their first setup, I've had luck doing that.

Problem is there are millions of cues and less players playing everyday. Unless a cue is considered valuable or collectable, they don't sell for much. I used to see used Predators sell well, even they don't anymore. Consider all the newer players who don't appreciate collectible cues...and never will. They think a new McDermott is the bomb and couldn't spell Bawlawbishka or whatever his name was.
 
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I know my biggest issue in the past is that I'm someone who judges a cue more for hit then for look. That being said, it's hard for me to shell out cash on something sight unseen....not knowing if I'm going to like how it plays or not. Finally dipped my toes in the water and will do so again down the road....but I can understand some peoples hesitance.
 
If you are selling an iPad or iPhone, that is the market for selling stuff now, not really collectible things unless they are top of the market and rare. I sold an iPad 2 for $175 with a keyboard in one day, that that is 3 generations old now. It was the top model and in great shape, but still a very fast sale. To get that quick response for a cue you need to either sell it for 50% of value or have something rare and/or historic like a Searing or a Palmer and would likely need some unique feature on the cue to boot like if it was used to win the 1970 world championship or something.

I do wish I held on to some of my comics longer, the recent Marvel movie hits had made quite a few of them that I sold years before the movies worth 3-4-5 times more that what I sold them for. And now that my son is into these things I also wish I kept them for him to read.

Collector cues market is probably smaller than collectable spoon market, and that just sounds funny if you think about it.
 
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