Played On 9' Diamond With Slow Cloth?

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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Has anyone ever played on a 9' Diamond table with old type very slow cloth on it?

I tried it on my Valley with the Ridgeback Rails with all 6 pockets 4" and it was harder to runout. I imagine that cloth on a 9' Diamond with the shallow shelves, that players would be hanging a lot more balls, trying to power CB around the table. Johnnyt
 
Practiced at a room last year with older Diamonds and slow cloth (by my standard). I found it very hard to get in stroke and opted to do drills instead. I would think matches on that equipment would be much different from Diamonds that play faster.
 
axejunkie said:
Practiced at a room last year with older Diamonds and slow cloth (by my standard). I found it very hard to get in stroke and opted to do drills instead. I would think matches on that equipment would be much different from Diamonds that play faster.
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Indeed. Check out the 1994 PBTA World Championship on youtube. Played on a Diamond with 4.25" pockets and slow (by today's standards) cloth (funny enough, the table was playing "too fast" by yesteryear's standards).

Table was brutal. Maybe the hardest 9 ball World Championship of all-time.
 
midnightpulp said:
Indeed. Check out the 1994 PBTA World Championship on youtube. Played on a Diamond with 4.25" pockets and slow (by today's standards) cloth (funny enough, the table was playing "too fast" by yesteryear's standards).

Table was brutal. Maybe the hardest 9 ball World Championship of all-time.
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You have a link for that? I looked but can't find it.
 
That's how a table should be. This 760 Simons is for the guys that have no stroke. It's pathetic. if I had a room, there would be no 760 on any table there ever
 
JumpinJoe said:
That's how a table should be. This 760 Simons is for the guys that have no stroke. It's pathetic. if I had a room, there would be no 760 on any table there ever
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Agreed. Check out this bastard of table from an 80's match between Buddy and Earl.

Skip to 7:40 and watch Earl slam that force follow and only get about 3 feet of roll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqlbpCxxOW4

Now you hit that shot with a light-medium stroke.

That said, the above table might be too slow, but it gives you an idea of the conditions past players had to deal with.
 
Even the old Gold Crowns that were shimmed and had the slow rubber back or cloth you could turn over and use the other side took a pretty good stroke to get 4 or 5 rails W/O coming up short. If there was high humidity in the room...forgetaboutit. Don't forget when the slow cloth was in use, they played mostly 14.1...not 9-ball or 10-ball, where you had to constantly go up and down and around the table. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
Has anyone ever played on a 9' Diamond table with old type very slow cloth on it?

I tried it on my Valley with the Ridgeback Rails with all 6 pockets 4" and it was harder to runout. I imagine that cloth on a 9' Diamond with the shallow shelves, that players would be hanging a lot more balls, trying to power CB around the table. Johnnyt
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Try adding the Big Cue ball for even more fun.....LOL.
 
Tooler said:
Try adding the Big Cue ball for even more fun.....LOL.
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Been there, done that, in fact I have a big ball for my Valley that I play with from time to time, just for the memories. I'm old man :wink:. Johnnyt
 
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The simonis cloth is only installed with a roll-on glue application, myself and other have tried to use the roll on glue with other pool table cloth with no good results.
The new diamond tables must have simonis installed because there is NO wood backing - for staples-and I'm not familiar with any other cloth that can be installed on a diamond correctly besides simonis.

If you use staples on a diamond pro-am you are making a HUGE mistake.




Rob.M
 
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dontlitethat said:
The simonis cloth is only installed with a roll-on glue application, myself and other have tried to use the roll on glue with other pool table cloth with no good results.
The new diamond tables must have simonis installed because there is NO wood backing and I'm not familiar with any other cloth that can be installed on a diamond correctly besides simonis.


Rob.M
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Every Valley I've owned and changed or had changed the cloth, I've NEVER had Simonis put on. I use mostly Champion brands and all of them were glued with no problems. I wouldn't buy a Diamond now. Simonis is way too fast for a 7' table and IMO...any table. Johnnyt
 
I would actually watch a BB tourny, if they went back to the Knap, especially if it was down in New Orleans or somewhere hot and humid.:thumbup:
 
Johnnyt said:
Every Valley I've owned and changed or had changed the cloth, I've NEVER had Simonis put on. I use mostly Champion brands and all of them were glued with no problems. I wouldn't buy a Diamond now. Simonis is way too fast for a 7' table and IMO...any table. Johnnyt
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You can install nap cloth with spray on glue on a edge application but the results are not very desirable.



Rob.M
 
Patrick Johnson said:
He hit that bad. Watch how far the next shot rolls with a medium-soft stroke.

The table is slow, but not that slow.

pj
chgo
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He may have tried to stun through to create the angle and just misjudged the speed. He'd have got there with the same speed shot with a little more high and left. Pure follow would have gone back and forth 3 rails perhaps, but not reach the middle of the table.

Colin
 
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