Lmao so you're discrediting the Us Open field but giving credit for a 3 time MVP in the Mosconi Cup? I want what you're smoking.
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Lmao so you're discrediting the Us Open field but giving credit for a 3 time MVP in the Mosconi Cup? I want what you're smoking.
Yep agree with that
Niels lost in double elimination losing 2 hill hill matches
All that means is most of these players can beat and kknock off the top players in 1 match
What people do not understand is when you say Niels is favorite over Woo and Kazakis, it does not mean that Niels will beat Woo and Kazakis all time. What it means is if Niels were to play 20 matches with Woo or Kazakis, Niels may win 11 matches and lose 9 if Niels is a 55% favorite. Pool has one of highest % of luck (golf probably has highest % of luck)
You do not understand concept of World Championship tourney. World Championship tourney in most sports means the champion beats field of top players. Does that mean he beat everyone in field? of cos not, simply cos he does not get to play everyone.
Does that mean he is best in tournament? In a way, yes, cos he performed the best amongst his peers and also the champion would have the best win loss and also win the important final stages
Does that mean he is best in world? It means he is arguably best or one of best during this few weeks but does not mean he will always be best after tournament or 10 years from now. Daryl Peach and Huiji See won World Championships but have not been elite level for long time. It also means that any player who wants to be World 9ball Champion has to win this to prove he is not a paper World Champion cos this is the biggest tourney with the best field of players.
Does that mean champion earned it? Absolutely, To win so many matches against such extremely high level most competitive organised event means he has earned right to be called World Champion for next 1 year. Sure there will be tonnes of other elite players who can beat him but they have to play 2nd fiddle to him whether they like it ot not. If others do not like it and want to whine about it, win the next World championship.
There are some who do not feel that Germany deserved to be World Champion in last FIFA World Cup- too bad, the others did not deliver so Germany will serve as World Champion for 4 years. Germany will just tell the others "You want to be World Champion? Win it or just shut up"
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I agree with this, but I disagree with people who like to discredit the US Open field with no facts.
I'm not trying to bash Neils, he's one of my favorite players, I'm just trying to show how dumb it is to praise a WPA event and overlook the US Open because the field is not as strong. If the US Open is so easy with its rack your own, winner breaks, race to 11, then surely these WPA world Champs should've won 1 by now besides Darren and Mika, I'm not counting people from a decade ago.
Well since we have seen our best players such as Shane swallow a golf ball and fail misserbly it's certainly worth nothing under the extreme pressure and bright lights some excell in that environment and some don't
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I hope you're not comparing the US Open to the Mosconi Cup.
It takes a lot more talent to win an Open.
The Mosconi Cup is a side show, not a premier event....the game is in worse shape than
I thought if a performance in this show merits the same respect as any major.
The majors like US Open, All Japan, China Open are below World Championship (ie. W9B, W10B, W8B) for number of reasons
1) very tough qualifiers and almost no dead money. Not an recreational player or part time player can play in main draw of 128 by paying fee. You first have to win qualifiers to play into main draw of 128. In majors , most times you just have to pay the entry fee and you can play main draw
2) all best players in world want to play so it brings together best field. Very easy to factually prove this, just look at how many top world class players there are in WC compared to majors and WC wins hands down. While the majors do attract number of world class players it does not attract as many a world championship like this
3) almost all countries send their top players so almost whole world is represented .
4) this is only event most players who want to prove they are best want to win.
U.S. Open is a major like All Japan, China Open but it is below World Championship . Period .
Anyone who has won World Championship need not prove themselves by winning a major like US Open , All Japan , China Open.
But the reverse is true- anyone who has won major still has to win WC (eg. Raymond Faraon, Lee Van, Chang Yu Lung, Albin, SVB, Yang, Chris Meiling, Corey Deuel, Rodney)
If The kid in Philippines who aspires to be best and can only save and travel to play 1 event , he will play WC, it is that simple . Before 1990s, the premier top 9 ball event would be US Open so can say it was defacto World Championship then as there were no W9B then. But not now.
Yes MC is great entertainment like Donald Trump of pool so clearly is way below US open as benchmark of players capability
Also it is team event and should not be confused with individual events
Are you INSANE?????
Puff Puff pass sir...
The SAME players play in the US open that play in the W9B...
The players that WIN the W9B play in the US Open....
Let me type this slowly JUST for you!!!
W-h-e-n a tournament i-s-n-'-t won consecutive times or by the same people, then N-O-O-N-E is dominating it...
W-h-e-n a tournament I-S- won consecutive times by the same person, that means he's dominating it.
So again, WHERE are these people that are dominating the W9B championship???
If there is a tournament that ISN'T being dominated and a tournament that IS and the same players that WIN both PLAY in both, you can be pretty damn assured that it's a format difference, not a skill difference...
Jaden
Puff Puff pass sir...
The SAME players play in the US open that play in the W9B...
The players that WIN the W9B play in the US Open....
Let me type this slowly JUST for you!!!
W-h-e-n a tournament i-s-n-'-t won consecutive times or by the same people, then N-O-O-N-E is dominating it...
W-h-e-n a tournament I-S- won consecutive times by the same person, that means he's dominating it.
So again, WHERE are these people that are dominating the W9B championship???
If there is a tournament that ISN'T being dominated and a tournament that IS and the same players that WIN both PLAY in both, you can be pretty damn assured that it's a format difference, not a skill difference...
Jaden
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I'm pretty sure that should be Carlo Biado. I notice the tournament has it wrong also.