Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

  • I always go by feel

    Votes: 153 53.5%
  • Usually by feel, with aiming systems for hard shots

    Votes: 68 23.8%
  • Usually with aiming systems, by feel for easy shots

    Votes: 24 8.4%
  • I always use aiming systems

    Votes: 26 9.1%
  • I just hit balls very hard and hope they sink

    Votes: 15 5.2%

  • Total voters
    286
Maybe...But I don't think so for long shots etc..Any idiot will see while over the cue that the 1/8 aim is way off (in my example), so they won't ever use it that way (I don't think). The subconscious adjustments are more for the shots where the visuals are hard to decide on I think, or for shots where you need an adjustment to hit center pocket. Stan was stunning the ball at a fairly slow speed in the video. That will require an adjustment. He could also have been off in his aim, or the shot could have had no exact CTE solution.

Yeah,

I was speaking in general & not to the 1/8 specifically.

Best.
 
You never shoot an exact fraction in CTE, so talking about cuts "between fractions" makes no sense.
"Pivoting" to a fractional cut (even a straight shot!) is what doesn't make sense. CTE makes every shot an "adjustment", even those that don't need one.

If you are going to critique the system, you should at least know it.
Those who use the system seem to know the least about it.

pj
chgo
 
Pivot systems ARE different from fraction/CTP-CTP/ghost ball and similar types of systems and when directly compared will only lead to confusion and bad communication IMO, unless you explicitly point out the difference. When you talk about the different alignments in CTE, 90/90 and SEE it makes absolutely no sense to talk about half ball aims etc, because of the pivot, the distance is an important factor in all of these systems. You may end up shooting a half ball shot, but your aim will be different. You are not aming half ball straight on some of the time, then pivoting when that doesn't fit. If you don't understand this simple fact it is pointless to try discussing the system at all. You may be swiping and adjusting when aligning wrong, or when the shot doesn't have a solution, but it is not at all the same as what you are suggesting.
 
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"Pivoting" to a fractional cut (even a straight shot!) is what doesn't make sense. CTE makes every shot an "adjustment", even those that don't need one.


Those who use the system seem to know the least about it.

pj
chgo

I'm beginning to suspect you don't know it AT ALL. (And I don't use it).
 
"Pivoting" to a fractional cut (even a straight shot!) is what doesn't make sense. CTE makes every shot an "adjustment", even those that don't need one.


Those who use the system seem to know the least about it.

pj
chgo

Gosh, it is no wonder you avoid debating me. My thinking is, you can't possibly believe yourself. It is so important to you to discredit CTE that you will say anything.

Believe this: CTE PRO ONE is not going anywhere but up in use.....and that includes world wide......think about it - HAL HOULE/ CTE spreading rapidly around the globe.

If you were a baseball pitcher we could put a fork in you.

Stan Shuffett
 
Down 65 pounds since April.

Another 20-30 to reach goal, and then I'll be able to defy gravity :D:D

Holy crap, Jon, that's phenomenal! Congrats. I'm down 48 pounds since March. Still need to lose that much more to hit my target of 190. I'd love to hit 165, which is the lean, mean fightin' machine weight I was when I got married almost 40 years ago, but I'd just be too scary at that weight. Lol

Low carb or intermittent fasting by chance? I do both.
 
"Pivoting" to a fractional cut (even a straight shot!) is what doesn't make sense. CTE makes every shot an "adjustment", even those that don't need one.


Those who use the system seem to know the least about it.

pj
chgo

I've asked several times with no answer, why is it that for CTE the visual's line alone is never a shot solution with no pivot needed?

Not even an acknowledgement of the question much less any answer.
 
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Holy crap, Jon, that's phenomenal! Congrats. I'm down 48 pounds since March. Still need to lose that much more to hit my target of 190. I'd love to hit 165, which is the lean, mean fightin' machine weight I was when I got married almost 40 years ago, but I'd just be too scary at that weight. Lol

Low carb or intermittent fasting by chance? I do both.

I went full out paleo for a while, but now I'm at about 90%, and I allow myself a cheat meal once or twice a week.
 
I went full out paleo for a while, but now I'm at about 90%, and I allow myself a cheat meal once or twice a week.

I thought you had slimmed down in your last video. I had no idea you were that much overweight, though. You carried it well (the loose fitting clothes helped that), and I'm the same way. But the internal organs don't lie. I found out I had Type 2, fatty liver disease, and metabolic syndrome. I cut out most carbs and just about all fructose except for a handful of raspberries or blueberries now and then. Except on Sunday morning, when I indulge in a few pancakes with real maple syrup. I practically live for that first sweet bite. You can't be too hard on yourself or you end up relapsing badly.

I wonder, has it helped your game any? I thought getting that big belly out if the way would really free up my stroke, but I think I came to rely on that contact point to keep the stroke straight. Not sure about that, though. I really haven't had much time to play since I lost the weight, so I am really out of stroke anyway. Can't wait until my seasonal chores are done so I can find at least a couple hours a day to practice.
 
Why? Because it's harder that way?

pj
chgo

I don't even use CTE, and I definitely don't think it's perfect, so I have no interest in defending it. The fact that you keep arguing against the system, when you don't even know it, makes it understandable that others have given up....I cant believe you are this ignorant about a system you have been arguing against for a decade or more! You are either incredibly opposed to learning new things, or you are feigning ignorance for trolling purposes.

Cuts between fractions....lol. A decade of wasted "debate"! It's unbelievable. Someone should just buy you a DVD, so you could at least debate it intelligently. I would give you mine, but I sent it to a nice young man in Saudi Arabia. Of course if you really are this stubborn (or simply trolling), you'd probably refuse to even watch it....I can't understand this attitude at all. If you are debating any subject, you should at least understand the opponents position. If it is ludicrous, then so be it, it will thus be easier to shoot down. When you refuse to even listen, you'll never understand why they took the position in the first place, thus you will argue against it much less efficiently. Even when debating new earth creationist lunatics, scientist use targeted arguments designed to refute the opponents stance, because being scientists, they understand this simple fact.
 
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I've asked several times with no answer, why is it that for CTE the visual's line alone is never a shot solution with no pivot needed?

Not even an acknowledgement of the question much less any answer.

You have receive no answer because the question makes as much sense as asking why you need to turn the key in your car to start it and can't just sit in the car and have it work the way you want it to.
 
I've asked several times with no answer, why is it that for CTE the visual's line alone is never a shot solution with no pivot needed?

Not even an acknowledgement of the question much less any answer.

Because it's such a stupid question. The pivot is part of the system. You don't leave parts out when you do something right.
It would be like having a bike with no wheels.
 
I've asked several times with no answer, why is it that for CTE the visual's line alone is never a shot solution with no pivot needed?

Not even an acknowledgement of the question much less any answer.

It's easy to answer. CTE is a pivot system. That means you pivot on all shots. The strength of these kinds systems are that they don't require that you know the exact number of degrees of cut etc. Instead they will provide you with usually two shot choices, one that will look good to you, another which probably won't, as opposed to an infinite number of choices for a fractional system. And the pivot system will have well defined shot choices, wheras the fractional system etc will be more "blurry" if you get my drift. I still don't think it works perfectly as advertised, but this is what the systems are supposed to do. Belive it, or don't, it's up to you.
 
Good shape is to get you close to OB and at the right angle for the next shot to get good position. Is there a system for that? If more "B" to "D" players would practice position, speed control, stop, stun, and spin shots, they would see there whole game go up. Pool at the higher level is a very hard game to play and don't let anyone tell you different. Pocketing the ball is a very small part of it. Johnnyt

Really, Do you shoot again after missing. Pocketing the ball is a huge part.
 
Good shape is to get you close to OB and at the right angle for the next shot to get good position. Is there a system for that? If more "B" to "D" players would practice position, speed control, stop, stun, and spin shots, they would see there whole game go up. Pool at the higher level is a very hard game to play and don't let anyone tell you different. Pocketing the ball is a very small part of it. Johnnyt

In a sense I agree with you...But precise pocketing (in the exactly right part of the pocket) is fundamental to good position play. Without accurate potting, your position play will never be good.
 
...you keep arguing against the system, when you don't even know it
Welcome to the same old tired argument. I reviewed one of the first DVDs when it came out, and haven't heard anything new since. In particular, you haven't mentioned anything new to me.

It seems you accept CTE's description of itself as factual. That's a mistake made by its users, and it's one of the "tells" that they don't really know it - they only "know" what they're told about it (for instance, that it isn't a fractional system with adjustments).

pj
chgo
 
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