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MisspentYouth

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Dear Sam Lambert,

I don't know you, but I used to kind of be like you when I was younger (maybe until I was @16 or so). And I've been drinking and I am a mean drunk that likes to hear himself talk.

You didn't ask for my advice, but your posts annoy me, so here goes:

Wanting to be a "pro" at something is fine. If you're 12. And if you have talent. You appear to be in your early twenties. Get a job.

I feel as though you, like Rhea and a few other people on here (probably myself at times too) write posts just so people will pay attention to them.

Like I said, I don't know you, but putting all of your energy into a spur of the moment obsession is a big red flag. More likely some area of your life deserves scrutiny. In the meantime, get a job.

Here are my general guidelines for becoming a pro pool player at your age:

1. Get a time machine and be as good as this kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcRYYTdkX2I here by the time you are 12.

2. If you aren't, then become an A player within the first few months of playing and you stand a slim chance. And then get another time machine to go back and have all the tournament and gambling experience that kid will have by the time he's your age.

3. If you can't do 1 or 2, then practice 16 to 18 hours a day, and if you aren't as good as a low level pro within one year, then you are not going to be. If you don't have the talent, then you, or anyone else on earth, no matter how much you practice, cannot become a pro. Sorry.

As regards #3, you might say, "How does he know this?" Well, first off, I have common sense. Second, I practiced 8, 10, 14 hours a day and I never got past a high B level. I don't have the talent. And from watching your videos, neither do you.

Can you get to shortstop level? Probably. But why would you want to? Even high level pro pool is a dead-end job except for the top ten players..

If you really love it, then go for it, but you should be willing to sacrifice absolutely everything--women, money, a career, your family, everything.

Do you have a killer instinct? I mean have total contempt for your opponent?
Do you absolutely pathologically hate to lose (I know a former NCAA tennis player that would flip over the monopoly board and threaten to kill you if you won-that's how bad you have to want to win)
Are you an amazing athlete at pretty much any sport you try?
Were you waaaayyy better than your peers as a child at any sport you tried?

If not, you won't be a pro. You are wasting your time.

All I'm saying is that your quest sounds pretty immature to me. My advice is practice enough to get real good, and get a job, go to school, get a girlfriend or boyfriend or a cat or whatever and leave me alone. I don't care about your pool quest. Only 16 year old girls want this kind of attention. But if you really love pool, then you won't care about anything I say here. In fact you'll use it as motivation.
 
I also read his first post of becoming a pro, not to many others, first rack of his video. anyways i see what your saying mostly about the becoming pro time machine, but in my opinion pool's a good sport in the sense that it really can be all ages, unlike football or basketball which would require the time machine theory, a lot of tournaments are open, pay your entry and you can compete with the pros, see where you measure, and maybe even beat them (unlikely). what i mean is don't ask on here if its realistic to become a pro - go out there, play tournaments and find out for yourself. somebody online will tell you no chance but your live results will tell you more.
 
Damn. You ARE a mean drunk!

I don't have any beers, but I agree that pool is largely a fool's pursuit. It is really silly thing to know how to do well.

The world is littered with folks who let their fancy rule and regret it.

Now go get your cpa, son. The Man's beans need a-countin and he's willing to pay a lotta money to someone who'll do it right.

And guess what you can do with that money? Yup...play pool.
 
Kris_b1104 said:
Only 16 year old girls are this offended by a stranger's post on the internet.

Just let it all out man.
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I didn't say I was offended. Why can't anyone read anymore?

I said I was annoyed. Just like I'm annoyed when people troll threads just to disagree with Godlike logic like I am presenting here. There, I said it. I am God.

My whole point was that Mozart wrote his first compositions when he was 4, Shane started playing pool when he was 18 months old.

Unless you have PHENOMENAL TALENT you can't become a pro. The end.

I don't care how many feel good cheerleaders you have or whether you think you can fly or not. If you don't have amazing talent, zero distractions, total dedication, practice more than 10 hours every day and gamble with the best players on earth, you will not make it. Anyone who doesn't agree with this is a rehtahd and should be boiled alive in a tub full of the runoff from Earl's dirty undies.

In fact, I'll go you one further.

Sam Lambert, I hereby call you out.

If you become a pro in the next 50,000 years, I will give you ten thousand dollars.

We can define pro as:

-Able to pay all of your bills, including rent, food, utilities, clothing, transportation and sundries at an adjusted normal level (we will have to decide on income here, because you could live in a trash can and spend 2 dollars a day and consider your self a pro, so more work is needed here)

-You regularly enter open tournaments and win or place in the top 4. Often.

-You are able to beat anyone on any given day.

-Your Fargo/WPA, etc. rating places you somewhere that any number of normal people would consider you a pro (Again, this would need to be decided on)

But if you don't, then you owe me 20K. If you believe in yourself so much, put it up. I will.
 
MisspentYouth said:
I didn't say I was offended. Why can't anyone read anymore?

I said I was annoyed. Just like I'm annoyed when people troll threads just to disagree with Godlike logic like I am presenting here. There, I said it. I am God.

My whole point was that Mozart wrote his first compositions when he was 4, Shane started playing pool when he was 18 months old.

Unless you have PHENOMENAL TALENT you can't become a pro. The end.

I don't care how many feel good cheerleaders you have or whether you think you can fly or not. If you don't have amazing talent, zero distractions, total dedication, practice more than 10 hours every day and gamble with the best players on earth, you will not make it. Anyone who doesn't agree with this is a rehtahd and should be boiled alive in a tub full of the runoff from Earl's dirty undies.

In fact, I'll go you one further.

Sam Lambert, I hereby call you out.

If you become a pro in the next 50,000 years, I will give you ten thousand dollars.

We can define pro as:

-Able to pay all of your bills, including rent, food, utilities, clothing, transportation and sundries at an adjusted normal level (we will have to decide on income here, because you could live in a trash can and spend 2 dollars a day and consider your self a pro, so more work is needed here)

-You regularly enter open tournaments and win or place in the top 4. Often.

-You are able to beat anyone on any given day.

-Your Fargo/WPA, etc. rating places you somewhere that any number of normal people would consider you a pro (Again, this would need to be decided on)

But if you don't, then you owe me 20K. If you believe in yourself so much, put it up. I will.
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Your definition of pro, and what he has already stated as his definition of pro, as vastly different things. Close on the fargo ratings, rest of it very different.

I think the biggest hold back to an older person getting good enough to be pro is the mental baggage they bring with them. Very hard to overcome that, if even possible.
 
stop trolling and practice

what i find strange about sam is that he keeps starting threads that he knows will blow up with replies because, if you use the search function, you can find that all the subjects he has started threads on have been beat to death on here
yet he starts them instead of just searching for past threads on the subjects and then he'll post a reply here and there
he also posted a video and asked everyone to give him advice when he has a canadian pro as his mentor

hey sam, how bout you stop posting (or trolling) and practice 'cause i guarantee ya the top pros didn't spend their time on internet forums, they spent it at the table
 
Take the bet Sam. Hell, you have 50,000 years to come up with the money if you don't make it.
 
MisspentYouth said:
I didn't say I was offended. Why can't anyone read anymore?

I said I was annoyed. Just like I'm annoyed when people troll threads just to disagree with Godlike logic like I am presenting here. There, I said it. I am God.

My whole point was that Mozart wrote his first compositions when he was 4, Shane started playing pool when he was 18 months old.

Unless you have PHENOMENAL TALENT you can't become a pro. The end.

I don't care how many feel good cheerleaders you have or whether you think you can fly or not. If you don't have amazing talent, zero distractions, total dedication, practice more than 10 hours every day and gamble with the best players on earth, you will not make it. Anyone who doesn't agree with this is a rehtahd and should be boiled alive in a tub full of the runoff from Earl's dirty undies.

In fact, I'll go you one further.

Sam Lambert, I hereby call you out.

If you become a pro in the next 50,000 years, I will give you ten thousand dollars.

We can define pro as:

-Able to pay all of your bills, including rent, food, utilities, clothing, transportation and sundries at an adjusted normal level (we will have to decide on income here, because you could live in a trash can and spend 2 dollars a day and consider your self a pro, so more work is needed here)

-You regularly enter open tournaments and win or place in the top 4. Often.

-You are able to beat anyone on any given day.

-Your Fargo/WPA, etc. rating places you somewhere that any number of normal people would consider you a pro (Again, this would need to be decided on)

But if you don't, then you owe me 20K. If you believe in yourself so much, put it up. I will.
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Why even be annoyed at someone else's ambitions? How does his quest affect you personally? Why insert yourself into it with your bet? And why does he have to pay double what you would pay out?

The thread was one thing, but this post is incredibly confounding.
 
I said learn, how, to, readddddd. I am not annoyed at his ambitions. I am annoyed at his delusions and attention seeking behavior.

Here's a perfect example for you here:

Michael Jordan (and probably only a few of you nitwits on here would dispute this) was/is one of the best athletes of all time. He tried to become a pro baseball player. He failed.

I would argue that he has a TOTALLY SUPERCALIPHUCKALISTIC lot more talent than Sam Lambert and even he couldn't just will himself toward a stupid goal. But I bet if he started playing baseball when he was 5 years old, he might have been a decent pitcher or something.

His quest does not affect me personally. I am a sadistic person. I enjoy crapping on unrealistic dreams. I told my cousin her daughter's drawings were terrible. Because they are. She was going on about how special she was, etc. No, Pablo Picasso's childhood drawings were special. Your daughter's are average to poor.

I inserted a bet into it, because it is easy money. If you told me you could levitate just by thinking about it, I would bet you can't. If you would bet me that you could become a pro pool player in your mid-20s with no discernible talent, I would bet you can't. If you thought you could beat a grizzly bear in a wrestling match, I would bet you can't.

This kid is clearly some kind of millennial sissy that has been told he's special his whole life. He hasn't yet figured out that life is a meaningless mishmash of pain, failure and occasionally decent dope and that most people are merely competent at what they do. The best thing anyone can hope for is that someone gives a crap when they die.

And that irritates me.

Just play pool because it distracts you from the fact that the earth is spinning really fast and you'll be dead soon and in 50 years no one will remember you were here, unless of course you're a hall of fame pool player :)
 
MisspentYouth said:
Dear Sam Lambert,

I don't know you, but I used to kind of be like you when I was younger (maybe until I was @16 or so). And I've been drinking and I am a mean drunk that likes to hear himself talk.

You didn't ask for my advice, but your posts annoy me, so here goes:

Wanting to be a "pro" at something is fine. If you're 12. And if you have talent. You appear to be in your early twenties. Get a job.

I feel as though you, like Rhea and a few other people on here (probably myself at times too) write posts just so people will pay attention to them.

Like I said, I don't know you, but putting all of your energy into a spur of the moment obsession is a big red flag. More likely some area of your life deserves scrutiny. In the meantime, get a job.

Here are my general guidelines for becoming a pro pool player at your age:

1. Get a time machine and be as good as this kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcRYYTdkX2I here by the time you are 12.

2. If you aren't, then become an A player within the first few months of playing and you stand a slim chance. And then get another time machine to go back and have all the tournament and gambling experience that kid will have by the time he's your age.

3. If you can't do 1 or 2, then practice 16 to 18 hours a day, and if you aren't as good as a low level pro within one year, then you are not going to be. If you don't have the talent, then you, or anyone else on earth, no matter how much you practice, cannot become a pro. Sorry.

As regards #3, you might say, "How does he know this?" Well, first off, I have common sense. Second, I practiced 8, 10, 14 hours a day and I never got past a high B level. I don't have the talent. And from watching your videos, neither do you.

Can you get to shortstop level? Probably. But why would you want to? Even high level pro pool is a dead-end job except for the top ten players..

If you really love it, then go for it, but you should be willing to sacrifice absolutely everything--women, money, a career, your family, everything.

Do you have a killer instinct? I mean have total contempt for your opponent?
Do you absolutely pathologically hate to lose (I know a former NCAA tennis player that would flip over the monopoly board and threaten to kill you if you won-that's how bad you have to want to win)
Are you an amazing athlete at pretty much any sport you try?
Were you waaaayyy better than your peers as a child at any sport you tried?

If not, you won't be a pro. You are wasting your time.

All I'm saying is that your quest sounds pretty immature to me. My advice is practice enough to get real good, and get a job, go to school, get a girlfriend or boyfriend or a cat or whatever and leave me alone. I don't care about your pool quest. Only 16 year old girls want this kind of attention. But if you really love pool, then you won't care about anything I say here. In fact you'll use it as motivation.
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Tell us how you really feel :-)

Much of what you said I totally agree with. Plus I would add that becoming a pool pro is only a guarantee of low income unless you are at the very top. There are about 200-300 world class players in the world who don't make $10,000 a year from their tournament winnings I would guess.
 
MisspentYouth said:
Dear Sam Lambert,

I don't know you, but I used to kind of be like you when I was younger (maybe until I was @16 or so). And I've been drinking and I am a mean drunk that likes to hear himself talk.

You didn't ask for my advice, but your posts annoy me, so here goes:

Wanting to be a "pro" at something is fine. If you're 12. And if you have talent. You appear to be in your early twenties. Get a job.

I feel as though you, like Rhea and a few other people on here (probably myself at times too) write posts just so people will pay attention to them.

Like I said, I don't know you, but putting all of your energy into a spur of the moment obsession is a big red flag. More likely some area of your life deserves scrutiny. In the meantime, get a job.

Here are my general guidelines for becoming a pro pool player at your age:

1. Get a time machine and be as good as this kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcRYYTdkX2I here by the time you are 12.

2. If you aren't, then become an A player within the first few months of playing and you stand a slim chance. And then get another time machine to go back and have all the tournament and gambling experience that kid will have by the time he's your age.

3. If you can't do 1 or 2, then practice 16 to 18 hours a day, and if you aren't as good as a low level pro within one year, then you are not going to be. If you don't have the talent, then you, or anyone else on earth, no matter how much you practice, cannot become a pro. Sorry.

As regards #3, you might say, "How does he know this?" Well, first off, I have common sense. Second, I practiced 8, 10, 14 hours a day and I never got past a high B level. I don't have the talent. And from watching your videos, neither do you.

Can you get to shortstop level? Probably. But why would you want to? Even high level pro pool is a dead-end job except for the top ten players..

If you really love it, then go for it, but you should be willing to sacrifice absolutely everything--women, money, a career, your family, everything.

Do you have a killer instinct? I mean have total contempt for your opponent?
Do you absolutely pathologically hate to lose (I know a former NCAA tennis player that would flip over the monopoly board and threaten to kill you if you won-that's how bad you have to want to win)
Are you an amazing athlete at pretty much any sport you try?
Were you waaaayyy better than your peers as a child at any sport you tried?

If not, you won't be a pro. You are wasting your time.

All I'm saying is that your quest sounds pretty immature to me. My advice is practice enough to get real good, and get a job, go to school, get a girlfriend or boyfriend or a cat or whatever and leave me alone. I don't care about your pool quest. Only 16 year old girls want this kind of attention. But if you really love pool, then you won't care about anything I say here. In fact you'll use it as motivation.
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Seriously, dude? Get a life.
 
MisspentYouth said:
Wanting to be a "pro" at something is fine. If you're 12. And if you have talent. You appear to be in your early twenties. Get a job.
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Tap, tap, tap...anyone who decides pool is a profession is delirious.

Get a job. Make money. Play all the pool you want.
 
Wow, this forum is full of bitter old men. Too bad we have to wait at least another 10 years for some of you buzzards to die off.

My advice to Sam, just enjoy the game. To be honest, it's not worth it to become a pro. Just ask one. I personally get the greatest enjoyment from practicing, sparring, and seeing myself get better. People are generally the worst part about pool. Based on what I said at the beginning of this comment, hopefully we won't have to deal with it much longer. Until then, figure out why you love this game and go do it.
 
MisspentYouth said:
I said learn, how, to, readddddd. I am not annoyed at his ambitions. I am annoyed at his delusions and attention seeking behavior.

Here's a perfect example for you here:

Michael Jordan (and probably only a few of you nitwits on here would dispute this) was/is one of the best athletes of all time. He tried to become a pro baseball player. He failed.

I would argue that he has a TOTALLY SUPERCALIPHUCKALISTIC lot more talent than Sam Lambert and even he couldn't just will himself toward a stupid goal. But I bet if he started playing baseball when he was 5 years old, he might have been a decent pitcher or something.

His quest does not affect me personally. I am a sadistic person. I enjoy crapping on unrealistic dreams. I told my cousin her daughter's drawings were terrible. Because they are. She was going on about how special she was, etc. No, Pablo Picasso's childhood drawings were special. Your daughter's are average to poor.

I inserted a bet into it, because it is easy money. If you told me you could levitate just by thinking about it, I would bet you can't. If you would bet me that you could become a pro pool player in your mid-20s with no discernible talent, I would bet you can't. If you thought you could beat a grizzly bear in a wrestling match, I would bet you can't.

This kid is clearly some kind of millennial sissy that has been told he's special his whole life. He hasn't yet figured out that life is a meaningless mishmash of pain, failure and occasionally decent dope and that most people are merely competent at what they do. The best thing anyone can hope for is that someone gives a crap when they die.

And that irritates me.

Just play pool because it distracts you from the fact that the earth is spinning really fast and you'll be dead soon and in 50 years no one will remember you were here, unless of course you're a hall of fame pool player :)
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Everyone with lofty ambitions will seem delusional to someone else. Sometimes they succeed and prove everyone wrong. As for pool, as long as nothing important is sacrificed in the journey, what's the harm?

Blogging about these things are pretty common. The Dan plan is the most famous example I think. There was another pool player who did something similar I think.

Whatever the impetus behind these blogs, I'm glad they exist. As someone who enjoys the study of learning, they provide neat case studies either way.
 
Keith Jawahir said:
Wow, this forum is full of bitter old men. Too bad we have to wait at least another 10 years for some of you buzzards to die off.

My advice to Sam, just enjoy the game. To be honest, it's not worth it to become a pro. Just ask one. I personally get the greatest enjoyment from practicing, sparring, and seeing myself get better. People are generally the worst part about pool. Based on what I said at the beginning of this comment, hopefully we won't have to deal with it much longer. Until then, figure out why you love this game and go do it.
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Not sure of your age, but you must know that we all get old and will be somebody's 'old buzzard' right? :thumbup:
 
poolmouse said:
Tap, tap, tap...anyone who decides pool is a profession is delirious.

Get a job. Make money. Play all the pool you want.
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I have no problem with anyone that chooses pool for a living. It beats being a slave to someone else. However, I do have a lot of problems with those that choose a different way of life than the normal, and then ask for handouts all the time because their profession doesn't give them the money they need to live on.

Bartrum is actually a good example. He prefers the life of a pool player, but when things get tough on the road, he just goes and gets a job for a while until things pick up again.

A great example is someone like Scott Lee. Pool is his profession, and he makes a good living at it. If he wants some time off, he can just take it. He's his own man, not someone elses.

Biggest problem with that kind of life is when you get old. Far too many don't plan for that at all.
 
MisspentYouth said:
Something I think is sorely missing in Internet forums with all the keyboard toughguys:

Fights to the death.

I'm not sure about the legality of this, obviously illegal, but I'm sure something, somewhere could be worked out.

Magyar, if you would like me, after hearing a perfectly sensible opinion, to "Get a life," I challenge you to say that to my face in front of me, at my house, in my yard.

If you agree to it, we could draw up a contract, maybe get some people on here to livestream it and each put up 10K and I will bareknuckle fight you to the death.

Let me know if you're interested.

In fact I'll put this out there to anyone interested in the future. If I make a statement and it is true and you reply with something moronic, I challenge you to a deathmatch. 10K, livestream, etc. Maybe this could catch on and people would stop making wiseass comments. Because if you made that comment to my face in a bar, I would wait until you went to the bathroom and I would do terrible things to you.

Mods, please kick me off this board permanently. I hate everyone here. I appreciate the stuff azbtv does, UpState rules, etc., but the people on here are disgusting dimwits.
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Bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out :wave2:
 
Keith Jawahir said:
Wow, this forum is full of bitter old men. Too bad we have to wait at least another 10 years for some of you buzzards to die off.

My advice to Sam, just enjoy the game. To be honest, it's not worth it to become a pro. Just ask one. I personally get the greatest enjoyment from practicing, sparring, and seeing myself get better. People are generally the worst part about pool. Based on what I said at the beginning of this comment, hopefully we won't have to deal with it much longer. Until then, figure out why you love this game and go do it.
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You quote Cleary, then make the same comment he did. Does that also make you a bitter old man that just isn't old yet???
 
Neil said:
I have no problem with anyone that chooses pool for a living. It beats being a slave to someone else. However, I do have a lot of problems with those that choose a different way of life than the normal, and then ask for handouts all the time because their profession doesn't give them the money they need to live on.

Bartrum is actually a good example. He prefers the life of a pool player, but when things get tough on the road, he just goes and gets a job for a while until things pick up again.

A great example is someone like Scott Lee. Pool is his profession, and he makes a good living at it. If he wants some time off, he can just take it. He's his own man, not someone elses.

Biggest problem with that kind of life is when you get old. Far too many don't plan for that at all.
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Good points, and that's kind of what I mean. Folks who decide to pursue pool as a "profession" would do well to secure sponsorship, if they're able to, rather than rely on "winnings".

Win to gain sponsors.

Live off sponsorship.

Or just have a good job and play/gamble all you want.

Or if you're good at selling your knowledge, give lessons for cash.

Just don't expect to buy that house you always wanted. ;)
 
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