Didn't he run 150's and 200 in this year's World 14.1 and 2014?
Edit: Okay I was wrong, I just went back and looked at all the articles from last year, only ran 99 and out a few times.
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Korr beats Ko 1st Round
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Didn't he run 150's and 200 in this year's World 14.1 and 2014?
Edit: Okay I was wrong, I just went back and looked at all the articles from last year, only ran 99 and out a few times.
poolplaya1976
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Spartan I enjoy your posts so I am not looking for a fight......Darren has had a rough 2015, just ask him and he will tell you
Jean shelled a prime McCready 11-3 some years ago. It happens.
And she beat several other top pros along the way as well.
She also beat Mike Lebron, Steve Mizerak, and Jim Rempe.
Be careful to not paint with too broad a brush here. If Tony Robles or Mike Davis or Ernesto Dominguez or Brandon Shuff beat big Ko 11-4 first round, there would be many people using the word "upset."
In this case, it is almost more about Ko than Ko's opponent.
I Agree.
She is up there & totally capable.
I'm not sure where in the rankings she should be placed, but she is up there.
Best Wishes.
Any time a lower-ranked player beats a higher-ranked player it's an upset.
Karen is a great player and more than capable of beating anyone, but her beating the number one seed in the tournament is an upset.
poolplaya1976
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not only an upset but I would almost call it a fluke....Karen just won her second round match 11 to 1 :shocked2:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=408952
Bookmaker William Hill betting odds/ favorites to win US Open 2015
Big Ko 11/1
Karen Corr 500/1
This is was an upset by the literal definition : an unexpected result or situation, especially in a sports competition.
It has nothing to do with female players vs male players nor should it.
Bookmaker William Hill betting odds/ favorites to win US Open 2015
Big Ko 11/1
Karen Corr 500/1
This is was an upset by the literal definition : an unexpected result or situation, especially in a sports competition.
It has nothing to do with female players vs male players nor should it.
LOL. No.
I'm just having fun with the variance crowd because to them, this isn't a win. (They always have some excuse)
I don't care about variance.
In pool, variance is just an excuse people use so their horse doesn't look bad when they lose.
Cause unless these two are playing every day for a month so people can apply their math, it's ridiculous to even talk about V in a pool context.
She destroyed KPY. BIG TIME.
RIPPED HIM TO SHREDS.
Demolished him way better then SVB ever has. LOL
And there is nothing the V boys can do about it.
lmao, you still DON'T comprehend anything. The "variance" crowd you are referencing, at least myself, embraces this victory because it enforces everything that IS variance. How many times do I have to state that? I'm glad Karen beat Ko because it lets all of the idiots that think short race tourney pool determines the best player know that it isn't the case. Clearly, Ko is a better player than Karen and would always win a longer race and always be a favorite in a shorter race. However, since it is one single race, Karen has a much better shot. Hence, the entire variance argument of tourney pool.
I understand just fine.
You're not the only card player on the forum.
But...
Pool isn't determined by races to 100, not all players play each other repeatedly all the time in a short span of time.
It hasn't mattered in pools history, it doesn't matter now, and never will.
It's all speculation because it doesn't happen that way.
When is the next time Karen will play KPY? How many times is she going to play him in her lifetime? For all we know, she might pound him every time they play? What happens to variance then? Are you suddenly going to increase the sets from 100 to 200 if they were to gamble so that the variance model fits into how you think he shouldn't lose?
Pool isn't like cards coming out of a deck regardless of who is getting them to make up the spectrum of math percentages.
These are individuals with abilities. It's not at clean cut as you want it to be. Cards don't care about the flu, cards don't care about what you ate for breakfast, cards don't care how good of a sleep you got or not, cards don't care if you're on drugs or not, cards don't care about practice. The cards come out regardless of what is going on.
For all we know, she just might have his number and bury him every time they play for life. What then?
Trust me, I understand exactly what you are trying to say.
It just doesn't apply to pool the way you want it to.
That's a fact.
You can preach who you think is better in the longer set all you want.
But it doesn't matter because that's not how pool is designed, and any "who would win in the longer race" is all speculation because those races simply don't happen.
What if it were 100 days of race to 1? You really think that whole longer race determining who the better pool players is without the whole stamina factor coming into play, is going to give you the same results as race to 100 broken up over 3 days?
Please.
that might be the dumbest reply since the last dumb reply as it pertains to variance.
Look at it this way, Ko is a favorite over Corr in ANY length race, but how much of a favorite depends on the length of the race. In a race to 3, Ko might be only a -140 favorite, in a race to 7 it goes to -200, race to 11 -350, race to 50 -1500, etc...etc...
If you don't comprehend how variance is greater in tournament pool, where the races are shorter, then I'm not sure how you get by in life. It's like understanding how to use a fork or count to 10.
My original argument about SVB being the best in the world isn't necessarily proven by the fact that I think he would beat every single player in a race to 100 9-ball or 10-ball format, it's proven by the fact that he would be the betting favorite in ANY race of ANY length. And like the KO vs. Corr example, how much of a favorite depends on the length of the race and breaking format (ie...winner or alternate break).
The only thing I've always argued is that variance is higher in shorter races, ie...the lesser player has a better chance of winning and the better player will win less the shorter the race. This IS A FACT, in any game or sport.
Look at it this way, Ko is a favorite over Corr in ANY length race, but how much of a favorite depends on the length of the race. In a race to 3, Ko might be only a -140 favorite, in a race to 7 it goes to -200, race to 11 -350, race to 50 -1500, etc...etc...
If you don't comprehend how variance is greater in tournament pool, where the races are shorter, then I'm not sure how you get by in life. It's like understanding how to use a fork or count to 10.
My original argument about SVB being the best in the world isn't necessarily proven by the fact that I think he would beat every single player in a race to 100 9-ball or 10-ball format, it's proven by the fact that he would be the betting favorite in ANY race of ANY length. And like the KO vs. Corr example, how much of a favorite depends on the length of the race and breaking format (ie...winner or alternate break).
The only thing I've always argued is that variance is higher in shorter races, ie...the lesser player has a better chance of winning and the better player will win less the shorter the race. This IS A FACT, in any game or sport.
Seriously you are the biggest idiot on this forum (and that is saying a lot!) if you truly believe Shane is a betting favorite in any race against any player in the world.
Keep going off of your "opinion" instead of actual results like how he can't seem to beat Ko regardless of the race.
Shane was the betting favorite in every single match against KO and he is the betting favorite against any other player in the world. FACT
Soooo. It was too complicated for ya.
Got it.
I'll keep that in mind the next time your logic goes down the toilet.
LOL
now I know what it's like trying to deal with special ed kids. Keep riding the short bus superstar, keep riding.
In your eyes he was, plenty of people felt Ko was the favorite in Vegas. He played his B game & still won comfortably at the end.
Let your obsession with Shane cloud your judgement & reality all you want. I am sure you & him can enjoy your world championships together.