is jayson shaw overrated?

The 5 out does you no good if you never get to see a ball past the 4 ball. Which is what would happen against Jayson.
 

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JS is good, but there are 5 guys from China/Taiwan that plays at the same level. 5 more from the Phillipines too.

3 from the U.S(Shane/Dechaine/Justin).

Actually, straight from Mike's mouth "He's better", he said that to me while he was watching Jayson practice. I don't know if I think that Jayson is a favorite over Mike when it comes to my money, but I have watched both players plenty of time and Jayson can make shots that are really hard to make better than anyone else I can think of. Mike seems to have a better overall game though including strategy.

Jayson's issue that I think keeps him from winning everything is seemingly going from superhuman to subhuman if he is down or the other player catches a gear. There are many players that don't make the balls as good that stay in the game better when down.
 
Got beat by Little Ko twice. Still a respectable 3rd place finish.

Let's see what Shaw has to say on FB..
 
It is a shame poopplayer never acknowledged be said summa the dumbest shit ever said on ye olde azb..

Hed take the 5 and bet 100k of hs own against jayson.

I am still laughng.
 
i have to go out-of-pocket for the next 3-5 days; unavoidable. further correspondence needs to be redirected to Jayson @ FaceBook. FYI OP, don't drop it to $200, race to 100, giving up 99 on the wire, the breaks, and the 5 out; common.

PL - <---- hoping this thread stays on track, unless JB & Lou want to run a Scotch Doubles. :yikes: (i'm available via text)
 
i have to go out-of-pocket for the next 3-5 days; unavoidable. further correspondence needs to be redirected to Jayson @ FaceBook. FYI OP, don't drop it to $200, race to 100, giving up 99 on the wire, the breaks, and the 5 out; common.

PL - <---- hoping this thread stays on track, unless JB & Lou want to run a Scotch Doubles. :yikes: (i'm available via text)

again, a troll made the comment that I couldn't beat jayson with the 5 out......I simply responded that with that weight I would bet 100k of my own......I am a top amateur nationally that decided 15 years ago to get my finance degree and not pursue professional pool because it didn't have a future.....there are a lot of fish who cant play on here, I am not one of those......I do enjoy the attention though, fun tilting fish and morons
 
again, a troll made the comment that I couldn't beat jayson with the 5 out......I simply responded that with that weight I would bet 100k of my own......I am a top amateur nationally that decided 15 years ago to get my finance degree and not pursue professional pool because it didn't have a future.....there are a lot of fish who cant play on here, I am not one of those......I do enjoy the attention though, fun tilting fish and morons

Then you truly are a tool.

Top amateur...I continue to laugh at your stupidity. after the first hour, jayson would have you by the throat.
 
Then you truly are a tool.

Top amateur...I continue to laugh at your stupidity. after the first hour, jayson would have you by the throat.

At any point now someone is gonna have to eat a whole bag of d*cks and it's not gonna be pretty...it's really gonna suck.
 
Then you truly are a tool.

Top amateur...I continue to laugh at your stupidity. after the first hour, jayson would have you by the throat.

you are top 5 biggest moron on here sir......please offer to back jayson......but like fast eddie said "too much money and I am an unknown" LMAO
 
you are top 5 biggest moron on here sir......please offer to back jayson......but like fast eddie said "too much money and I am an unknown" LMAO

Maybe you don't read so well. Ping Jayson on FB, toolbox. Get your money, set up your game with him. Rob him, and hang his scalp on your wall, "top amateur". I have no dog in this fight. Also, most finance majors/graduates I know use capitals and punctuation. They can also post to a newsgroup outside of standard school hours. Just saying.
 
I'm in that same level as you - top rankings in most leagues I played in. To put this in perspective, I played a guy one time that was really good - played at a top level for awhile here locally, until he decided there was no future in pool. He placed top 4 at Canadian championships, and beat Erik H a few times. I gambled with a guy that thought he could give me the 5 out, and I BBQ'd him. So, Mike (the very good player) said "I think you'd roast ME with that spot, but let's try it". He beat me 11-8. And he was no Jayson Shaw.

The 5 out against a top player isn't much of a spot, honestly. When the soft break and the Sardo were in use one year at Cardiff, there were a ton of 11-0 whitewashs.
I can give a B player the 6 out and the breaks...especially in a big table. Alot goes into that equation. If you add up dry breaks, scratches and failed runouts to the 6 it starts to make sense. If the B is getting to the 6 at 40% or better without me shooting I cant win. To me that's the tipping point. I'm gonna win by safing better early in the rack, or playing tie ups better or making easy outs of 6 balls or less. As a AA level, not quite shortstop level player, there's a lot yoy can give up. If you are B or lower and a guy wants to give you the breaks it isn't much and can actually hurt you as bad or worse than winner break.

If the OP plays about my speed he would be a favorite getting the 5 out from anybody on the planet. ..breaks or not.

This match will never happen anyway cause he may have game and even money, but will inevitably fall short in the heart category. So few have all 3.
 
again, a troll made the comment that I couldn't beat jayson with the 5 out......I simply responded that with that weight I would bet 100k of my own......I am a top amateur nationally that decided 15 years ago to get my finance degree and not pursue professional pool because it didn't have a future.....there are a lot of fish who cant play on here, I am not one of those......I do enjoy the attention though, fun tilting fish and morons

again, you woofed; i obliged. i was only trying to help. you're obviously an accountant, since you realize it's not cost-effective re: pool. so you're in GSO? are you with EY????

if you're in GSO, i can be at you in 5-10 mins to further discuss your match with Jayson.

as for your references to several herein as "trolls" - i'd advise you to know whereof you speak.

(Shawn, my apologies for non-capitalization, but i type 40wpm faster without it)
 
I can give a B player the 6 out and the breaks...especially in a big table. Alot goes into that equation. If you add up dry breaks, scratches and failed runouts to the 6 it starts to make sense. If the B is getting to the 6 at 40% or better without me shooting I cant win. To me that's the tipping point. I'm gonna win by safing better early in the rack, or playing tie ups better or making easy outs of 6 balls or less. As a AA level, not quite shortstop level player, there's a lot yoy can give up. If you are B or lower and a guy wants to give you the breaks it isn't much and can actually hurt you as bad or worse than winner break.

If the OP plays about my speed he would be a favorite getting the 5 out from anybody on the planet. ..breaks or not.

This match will never happen anyway cause he may have game and even money, but will inevitably fall short in the heart category. So few have all 3.

This all started with some guy posting about Jayson being overrated. Most, if not all, of us have said he isn't. The OP wants to make comments about Jayson's game. I merely stated I thought it was funny that a guy who PROBABLY couldn't beat Jayson with the 5 out was cutting up his game. I then said he should offer to coach Jayson. The trollfest started with a $100k woof from the cheap seats. I have said he should make a game with Jayson. They can work out the details. Jayson hasn't offered him the 5 out. If Playa wants to make a game with Jayson, he knows how to do it. Jayson apparently knows who he is, as he has said once Jayson heard his name, the spot would tighten up real quick. Where I come from, you don't talk shit about someone's game unless you can beat them, with no spot. Otherwise, know your role, and shut your hole. That's how I was raised.
 
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