Same Old Same Old

It's based on the fact that I can do them and we all know you can't.

PS You should not make any family comments EVER. They are extremely in bad taste.

Well, if you can't jump a ball off the table into a boot, you ain't shit.

How bout the ''machine gun" shot? Can you do that one?

There are way more tricks shots, if you can not do every one of them, you ain't shit.
 
Well, if you can't jump a ball off the table into a boot, you ain't shit.

How bout the ''machine gun" shot? Can you do that one?

There are way more tricks shots, if you can not do every one of them, you ain't shit.

Well, I can run a rack, which we all know you can't.
Besides, you are talking trick shots, and we are talking everyday CTE shots.

PS. I can wipe my butt with your contact patch,lol.
 
That curtain thing was kind of interesting as a one time deal. Then it got exaggerated out of all proportion as the be all and end all of pool, sigh. Is this really where we are going to take the aiming debate? Will we all have to use broomstics instead of cues and rubiks cubes instead of balls, now?

I don't even think it proves anything, other than that the person using the curtain has either rehearsed certain shots, or has developed an intuition about where the pockets are with limited visual input. But so what? It doesn't prove that the persons aiming method is superior, it doesn't even mean the persons skill is superior. As far as I know it only proves that the person is a skilled player with a well developed intuition or a scammer with too much time on his hands. I don't believe the latter is true of anyone in particular on here, but the shots could be faked by a person like that, if he wanted to. Even if the person isn't a scammer, what does the curtain video really prove? Does it mean that trickshot artists are superior players, because they can jump a ball into a hat or shoe or whatever? Are people now going to hound trickshot artists for their aiming system? After all they can pull off railroad shots, shots out of a hankerchief etc...

I hope I will never have to hear about this curtain nonsense ever again, but I'm not optimistic. It's like seeing the clown/magician/whatever at a childrens party pull a coin out from a persons ear. Not as interesting the thousanth time, is it?
That's your opinion. It does in fact price that a person with sufficient proficiency with CTE can make shots without seeing the pocket or rails.

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That curtain thing was kind of interesting as a one time deal. Then it got exaggerated out of all proportion as the be all and end all of pool, sigh. Is this really where we are going to take the aiming debate? Will we all have to use broomstics instead of cues and rubiks cubes instead of balls, now?



I don't even think it proves anything, other than that the person using the curtain has either rehearsed certain shots, or has developed an intuition about where the pockets are with limited visual input. But so what? It doesn't prove that the persons aiming method is superior, it doesn't even mean the persons skill is superior. As far as I know it only proves that the person is a skilled player with a well developed intuition or a scammer with too much time on his hands. I don't believe the latter is true of anyone in particular on here, but the shots could be faked by a person like that, if he wanted to. Even if the person isn't a scammer, what does the curtain video really prove? Does it mean that trickshot artists are superior players, because they can jump a ball into a hat or shoe or whatever? Are people now going to hound trickshot artists for their aiming system? After all they can pull off railroad shots, shots out of a hankerchief etc...



I hope I will never have to hear about this curtain nonsense ever again, but I'm not optimistic. It's like seeing the clown/magician/whatever at a childrens party pull a coin out from a persons ear. Not as interesting the thousanth time, is it?


I don't understand at this point how anyone could think that the curtain shots are rehearsed or some sort of trick. How difficult is it to understand that the system is quite effective? That is why the demos were made. It is quickly verifiable in person, and there is absolutely no incentive to make false claims. Certainly not for those using the system and not selling anything.
 
Nope. Curtain = blocked view. You can't make ten banks in three different pockets a row even without a curtain.

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Just my opinion: they're trick shot. There was a time I was into wing shots and could shoot them into either pocket, fast or slow, short or long.

Plus he's on his pet table and has had God only knows how long to practice adjustments and had who knows how many takes. They prove *nothing* other than he's good at a particular trick shot.

Lou Figueroa
 
Just my opinion: they're trick shot. There was a time I was into wing shots and could shot them into either pocket, fast or slow, short or long.

Plus he's on his pet table and has had God only knows how long to practice adjustments and had who knows how many takes. They prove *nothing* other than he's good at a particular trick shot.

Lou Figueroa


Do you not think this can be easily verified in person on a table of choice? Granted having a curtain available would need to be coordinated.
 
Do you not think this can be easily verified in person on a table of choice? Granted having a curtain available would need to be coordinated.


What would be the purpose?! We don't shot pool shots with a frippin' curtain across the table, just like we don't shoot pool shots with bottles, or coin wrappers, or triangles, cue sticks, mechanical bridges, or hot babes on the table. It means/proves squadouche.

Lou Figueroa
 
I don't understand at this point how anyone could think that the curtain shots are rehearsed or some sort of trick. How difficult is it to understand that the system is quite effective? That is why the demos were made. It is quickly verifiable in person, and there is absolutely no incentive to make false claims. Certainly not for those using the system and not selling anything.

Can you or anyone else really prove otherwise?

At what point does a cte person reach curtain level?
 
What would be the purpose?! We don't shot pool shots with a frippin' curtain across the table, just like we don't shoot pool shots with bottles, or coin wrappers, or triangles, cue sticks, mechanical bridges, or hot babes on the table. It means/proves squadouche.

Lou Figueroa


The purpose would simply be to validate that the system is what is being applied to make the shots, not tricks or setups. Asking again, would an in person demo not validate the claim? Simple question. Yes or no.
 
Can you or anyone else really prove otherwise?



At what point does a cte person reach curtain level?


Prove what? Whether the system is being used vs. setups? Would in person demo not clear that up? That is my question. Stan has offered anyone to come see it for themselves. No, not because it's a trick table. He has the curtains setup. Not just demo shots, but show you CTE in person and help you do it too, at the table.
 
The purpose would simply be to validate that the system is what is being applied to make the shots, not tricks or setups. Asking again, would an in person demo not validate the claim? Simple question. Yes or no.


No.

It would not validate anything about any system, just as shooting wing shots validates nothing about any system. If it proves anything it proves they are just trick shots.

Lou Figueroa
 
No.

It would not validate anything about any system, just as shooting wing shots validates nothing about any system. If it proves anything it proves they are just trick shots.

Lou Figueroa


Agree that the in-person demo would prove its a trick... IF ITS A TRICK. That's kinda the purpose of being in-person yes? You setup the shots and the shot making is undeniably consistent even with curtains? If you can't resolve what is happening at that point it's just plain ignorance.
 
I want to add, yes I know curtains are not used in pool games. They are only to demonstrate that the system (CTE) does not use contact points. With a curtain, contact points are much more difficult without the pocket in view. Not a trick, just using our perception coupled with centers and edges to proficiently pocket balls. If you think THAT is a trick, well heck that's an awesome trick, one I will use to pocket balls!
 
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