Predator cue is just about marketing???

So many cues...

Predator has some good looking cues and there shafts are world famous and more then one world famous pro and a bunch of amateurs use them. It's a tough choice and it would be great if some one let you hit some balls with a Mezz or Predator.

I have an old Plain Jane Meucci Sneaky with a Black Dot shaft. I can shoot good pool with it. By that I mean good for me. Now this forum for the most part does not rave on about how great Meucci is, but I am a believer in the Meucci I have.

Why do I use Diviney cues? I like every thing about them including the guy that makes them, so much of it is between our ears and maybe some shrink can explain it.

I believe the more one gets into any thing they enjoy the natural course is trying some thing new. So what ever you pick will probably be the right choice for you.
 
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I've learned that cues, or the shafts for that matter, play different after the miles are put on them.
So trying a cue out in a store for a few hits will give you an idea of what is in store, but you won't have any idea how it will play after 500 hours on the table. So from there it's anyone's guess.
 
Kim Bye said:
I second this. Predator products are not the same quality as Mezz.
Mezz is he best production cues out there.
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I don't have much experience with mezz cues but have owned several predator shafts and 1 predator cue. I haven't had a single issue with any of them and have been able to sell them for 50-60% of retail. I can't say predator is better as I haven't used a mezz cue but haven't seen any issues from predator products and they are always in demand if you decide to sell down the road.

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I think the deflection is equal between the 2, but the predator hit feels hollow. I would go with the mezz. I have a predator shaft and love it, can't go wrong with whatever you decide.
 
Mezz or OB

The Predator shafts are awesome until you crack the ferrule or damage it in any way.
 
caff3in3 said:
I don't have much experience with mezz cues but have owned several predator shafts and 1 predator cue. I haven't had a single issue with any of them and have been able to sell them for 50-60% of retail. I can't say predator is better as I haven't used a mezz cue but haven't seen any issues from predator products and they are always in demand if you decide to sell down the road.

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So you have no point of comparison?
How do you think that`s valid in a discussion about Mezz vs Predator cues?
 
Kim Bye said:
So you have no point of comparison?
How do you think that`s valid in a discussion about Mezz vs Predator cues?
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I didn't compare them, nor did I say one was superior to the other. It was in response to comments about predator "issues" and great resale for mezz products (which predator has as well)

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15cherries said:
anyone live near mikemosconi. I am wondering how his english would be after someone taught him some manners. Cut the OP some slack and help him out with honest answers to a legitimate question champ!!!
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I'm with you.

Anyway ... I've had 4 314 shafts and still own one that I use on my McDermott D4, but I do all my playing with my Mezz with a WX700 shaft and Kamui Black Medium tip. Mezz is the closest thing you can get to a custom cue that's not a custom cue. That being said, it's a personal thing, only you can make the decision.
 
shafts

The big claim to fame for Predator is their shafts. I have had around 15 of these come through my shop in the past year. All of them had black lines coming up the shaft from the ferrule end. Delaminating glue lines or CRACKS. The end of the shaft is hollow for the first 5 inches. The only thing holding it together is a very thin walled ferrule that is made of inferior isoplast material. If you buff it - it will expand or pop out like a balloon. Great concept for low deflection, but bad engineering for longevity. And it's getting worse. The newer ones are only lasting a year or two before they fail. Maybe that's on purpose. They get you hooked on the shafts - then make them to fail so you can have the privilege of buying a new one from them. It's trash really. I have found a way to fix them - but it isn't cheap. When I'm done with them they won't do it again either. But I would not ever buy one again. Period.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
I have a Predator for sale. Was originally selling for $900.00 Ryan from Muellars just did a refinish on it. No Pred shaft as that is the way I received it. Players 12 mm HXT shaft with it. Just test hit.

It does actually Shoot Lights out and Hits A Tonne. That is in Metric Measure BTW. I kid, I kid.

Looks brand new off the rack. No hall left in town so down sizing, as I don't really have a place to take my cues out and have fun like I used to.

If you might be interested, PM me for price. Just don't want to say here. Not much tho.
Just want to get what I paid for it plus a little added for the refinish cost.

I wish that I could remember the model number. It is something like a BK 709 500 or how ever they name them. Camel bone points and Camel diamond inlays.
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Great opinion on Predator.
 
NYC cue dude said:
I'm afraid your friend let his business dealings with predator effect his opinion on the quality of the product. It's true that predator demands very large monetary orders from their dealers just to qualify to carry the product. Many dealers can't/don't and therefore automatically dislike the company. Even some who represent predator resent their requirements. Best opinions you can get is from players who have paid for the product themselves. I've been exclusively using predator shafts for 10 years. On a Ginacue, by the way.
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Oh hell no, i didnt just read that. U put a predator shaft on gina cue ????? Lord help us lol
 
BABYfrHEAVEN said:
I went to a local store few days ago looking to upgrade my cue stick. I'm looking for a cue around 600$ but still can afford up to $1000. After a bunch of research, I narrow my choice to Mezz or Predator. After a few shots with one of Mezz Axi 2015 series and ACE-K cue, I have very good feeling kind of like to buy one of them. I want to try to hit with Predator cue (8k-2 or P3 series- which I really like) as well but unfortunately, they don't have any. I decided to go to other store have those Predator cues to check then make a final decision later.

Well even when I said above I like predator cues (8k, P3 or even Sport 2) but, in fact, i've never tried them before. The reasons I like is the design and technology (which I read from Predator website). Then I talked about my situation with one of professional player (he's very famous, attend WPC last year and even own cue store but I don't want to mention his name here) and curious about the different about 8k, P3. Here is what he said to me:

"Not much different between those 2, predator cue is all about the same for so many years. The way they marketing make people think that Predator cue has breakthrough technology, even with the new 3rd gen sharp.".

He did not say Predator cue is bad but he doesn't like the way they marketing and told me Predator is overpriced. One other guy (also a pro) suggest to me that I don't need to spend 1000$ for a cue because 500$ cue is already high-end cue. When I asked him about a cue around 500$, which brand I should go for and he said go for Mezz.

Well, even this comes from pro player but I still wanna hear others people opinion about it. And I still haven't made a purchase decision yet.
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Predator makes good cues. I'd go with them. Just order one from BilliardWarehouse. Never liked Mezz.
They feel weird. In my opinion having a Predator cue would better prepare you for a custom cue.

What I particularly like about them is that you can get one at say 18 oz and make it weigh anything between 18 and 20 oz with the weight bolt system. Or was the weight bolt systm + 3 oz?
I forgot. If that's the case then if you get an 18 oz cue you're covered from 18 to 21.

It's an excellent way to for people to understand more about how cue weight affects their stroke, hit and the cue ball and they can get a better idea of what they might like in a custom cue should they get one later.

That being said if my budget was up to thousand bucks there's no way I'd get anything other than a custom cue.
Lots and lots and LOTS of custom cue makers make plane janes for 500-700 bucks.
Only problem then becomes finding one that will actually send you the cue once it's finished and payed for........lol..... ;)
 
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mikemosconi said:
Save your money and pay for some English writing lessons- it will take you much further in life than that Mezz cue.
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Smart money actuall says his English is better than whatever your level of proficiency is in his native tongue.

He's a fer-ner, obviously. You' think a little leniency would be available for our non-american azbros?
 
Nothing between the ears. pat's cues are actually the best. I can prove it.
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Ak Guy said:
Predator has some good looking cues and there shafts are world famous and more then one world famous pro and a bunch of amateurs use them. It's a tough choice and it would be great if some one let you hit some balls with a Mezz or Predator.

I have an old Plain Jane Meucci Sneaky with a Black Dot shaft. I can shoot good pool with it. By that I mean good for me. Now this forum for the most part does not rave on about how great Meucci is, but I am a believer in the Meucci I have.

Why do I use Diviney cues? I like every thing about them including the guy that makes them, so much of it is between our ears and maybe some shrink can explain it.

I believe the more one gets into any thing they enjoy the natural course is trying some thing new. So what ever you pick will probably be the right choice for you.
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hi

Mezz, just find out what shaft suit you the best: WX700, ExPro, HybridPro are all 12.5mm, Hybrid Alpha is 12.8mm and their regular shaft is also 12.8mm.

Also I would go with wavy joint instead of united joint.
 
me personally, i like both mezz and predator
but the older predator cues like the wood to wood joint sneakies, the steel joint ones just don't play the same, somethin feels unnatural about them
mezz cues play solid and most of them feel similar depending on the shaft you like
i played with the WX700 and it plays real sweet, but the 314 plays sweet too
point is it all comes down to what you like and how you want your cue to feel
and for 600-1000 bucks, you better be planning on keeping this cue for life 'cause the resale on a $1000 mezz or predator is about 500 bucks
maybe even less depending on the condition
if you wanna spend that much, i suggest you go find a cheaper cue for now, shoot with it a while and try other people's cues out every chance you get
once you figure out your preferences, have a reputable custom cue maker make you a cue to your specifications
or if you're set on the production cues, buy the one you liked best from the trying out
 
mikemosconi said:
Save your money and pay for some English writing lessons- it will take you much further in life than that Mezz cue.
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After the word lessons, you should either use a period to make that a complete sentence, or insert a semi colon to include the remainder of your statement as an adjunct to the initial statement. At that point, you would conclude the sentence with a period or an exclamation point.

It doesn't feel good to be chastised, does it? You owe the gentleman an apology! :angry:
 
eddie8842 said:
me personally, i like both mezz and predator
but the older predator cues like the wood to wood joint sneakies, the steel joint ones just don't play the same, somethin feels unnatural about them
mezz cues play solid and most of them feel similar depending on the shaft you like
i played with the WX700 and it plays real sweet, but the 314 plays sweet too
point is it all comes down to what you like and how you want your cue to feel
and for 600-1000 bucks, you better be planning on keeping this cue for life 'cause the resale on a $1000 mezz or predator is about 500 bucks
maybe even less depending on the condition
if you wanna spend that much, i suggest you go find a cheaper cue for now, shoot with it a while and try other people's cues out every chance you get
once you figure out your preferences, have a reputable custom cue maker make you a cue to your specifications
or if you're set on the production cues, buy the one you liked best from the trying out
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Speaking of resale. A good option would be to buy used. Likely to get most of your money back and gives you an opportunity to test one and sell it if you want to try the other


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