The rest of the matches from Derby

Sweet - I'm stuck at home following a trip to the hospital so I'll watch all of these today.

Thanks Dennis.
 
thanks for the links, I won my match yesterday 100--95 and certainly need to see these matches for improvement. that was too frigging close! :cool:
 
alstl said:
I'll stipulate to being an idiot for questioning anything John Schmidt does in 14.1 but if he had it to do over again I wonder if he would go 2-13-8 instead of what he did.

https://youtu.be/GQsUfK_hdyg?t=4996
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Definitely not 2-13-8. He chose the easiest and best route: 13-2-8. He simply got *very* bad position on the 2, for whatever inexplicable reason.

We see him point with his cue (link below) where he ideally plans to arrive for the 2 in the side after pocketing the 13. Then he'd pocket the 2, punching (or slow rolling) the CB a few inches to the right, and with a touch of draw pocket the 8 in the same side pocket to readily get position on his break ball:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GQsUfK_hdyg#t=5002

Arnaldo
 
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arnaldo said:
Definitely not 2-13-8. He chose the easiest and best route: 13-2-8. He simply got *very* bad position on the 2, for whatever inexplicable reason.

We see him point with his cue (link below) where he ideally plans to arrive for the 2 in the side after pocketing the 13. Then he'd pocket the 2, punching (or slow rolling) the CB a few inches to the right, and with a touch of draw pocket the 8 in the same side pocket to readily get position on his break ball:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GQsUfK_hdyg#t=5002

Arnaldo
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The problem with going that way is you are trying to land perfect on a side pocket shot with the object ball in the middle of the table. The 8 is closer to the side than the 2 and therefore you have more room for error. That's why 2-13-8 makes more sense to me.
 
As you'll already know, A, there's a reason most restaurants have plenty of choices on the menu.

Choices are often about what "feels" right to the individual in a given case. When a highly-skilled 14.1 player's in good rhythm the choice's logic or debatable "sense" generally only enters retrospectively. Watch any of Schmidt's multi-century runs and you'll see him on autopilot accomplishing this exact end-of-pattern key to the key to the key triangular configuration quite instinctively at least a half-dozen times on any of those vids, and always successfully. I'd say the 13-2-8 would be a preferred, instinctive choice for many top players.

We could ping-pong some OCD about the restaurant menu analogy, but heck, I'm leaving in a couple minutes with my better half for our favorite pizza palace. Not too sensible for my aging arteries, but feels right and perfect with some NA beer (I'm driving) for this particular Friday night.

Arnaldo
 
alstl said:
I'll stipulate to being an idiot for questioning anything John Schmidt does in 14.1 but if he had it to do over again I wonder if he would go 2-13-8 instead of what he did.

https://youtu.be/GQsUfK_hdyg?t=4996
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He must have had a brain cramp. The 13 was a relatively easy ball to use to get on the 8 which was the best key ball. After he shot the 13 first and ended in no mans land, he had to shoot off his key ball and then he came up bad on the 2 again.
 
dmgwalsh said:
He must have had a brain cramp. The 13 was a relatively easy ball to use to get on the 8 which was the best key ball. After he shot the 13 first and ended in no mans land, he had to shoot off his key ball and then he came up bad on the 2 again.
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Exactly. The problem with what he did is he had to get perfect on the 2 because it was in the middle of the table and the cue ball was coming across the angle.
 
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